multiple characters

[thedeadlysun 12]

i looked up a tutorial on how to make multiple characters just to find out what you have to do is make another steam account and buy the game again, i think they should implement something where you can just select another profile from the main menu and it load up a new character when logging in, because when i have some buddies over and they want to play i don't want them on my high end gear character if they have never played before

[Herb (DayZ) 121]

itll probably happen in standalone

[SmashT 10907]

Stash your gear in a tent or buy a second copy.

[thedeadlysun 12]

buying a second copy is just a waste of money if they can just change it, thats why im suggesting this..... and if they do change it then people were stupid enough to waste that much money

[Badjr 44]

This would only create more space issues on the Hive.

One character should be good enough, if it isn't then go on some Sanctuary servers; they use a different database than the normal Dayz servers, so you'll have a completely different character

[zumb.sasha@googlemail.com 8]

Nope! I am againts this! Imagine you kill someone and then after few minutes you get shot by a "multiple" character. Also looting would be easier! So NO!

[Badjr 44]

No more tents, just multiple characters that you hold on to gear with.

There is way too much potential for abuse here

[thedeadlysun 12]

Nope! I am againts this! Imagine you kill someone and then after few minutes you get shot by a "multiple" character. Also looting would be easier! So NO!

..... i dont even get your point..... it would serve the same exact purpose as buying a new character...... and how would looting be easier?

Edited August 1, 2012 by thedeadlysun

[Badjr 44]

..... i dont even get your point..... it would serve the same exact purpose as buying a new character...... and how would looting be easier?

How many people have you met that have paid for two characters?

$30 seems to be quite a big deterrant for this kind of behavior. Even then, I'd rather get killed by someone who paid to have extra characters than someone who geared up 6 guys without paying and placed all of them in the same area.

I already mentioned the impact on looting.

Walk into forest where "tent" characters are, possibly place loot in temporary tent(or just put it in a pile), log on to "tent" character, pick up loot.

Infinite storage without any possibility of another player stumbling onto your base camp.

Then you have 5 characters on a looting party, able to clear out a city by cycling through them making loot much easier

There is no good outcome to a change like this

[Quilty 5]

Must agree. A play with a mate and were rather kitted out but it's a pain in the ass meeting up if someone's on b4 1 another. Would be great to piss about with a 2nd account

[thedeadlysun 12]

How many people have you met that have paid for two characters?

$30 seems to be quite a big deterrant for this kind of behavior. Even then, I'd rather get killed by someone who paid to have extra characters than someone who geared up 6 guys without paying and placed all of them in the same area.

I already mentioned the impact on looting.

Walk into forest where "tent" characters are, possibly place loot in temporary tent(or just put it in a pile), log on to "tent" character, pick up loot.

Infinite storage without any possibility of another player stumbling onto your base camp.

Then you have 5 characters on a looting party, able to clear out a city by cycling through them making loot much easier

There is no good outcome to a change like this

actually, almost everyone i know bought a second account and your last statement is what everyone says to ever suggestion that comes to this forums, even when they are good ideas, just like this, plus with the new thing that tracks alt f4's and dc/ reconnections using alt accounts to kill others will only bring you to your demise sooner and add your name to the ban list

Edited August 1, 2012 by thedeadlysun

[thedeadlysun 12]

This would only create more space issues on the Hive.

One character should be good enough, if it isn't then go on some Sanctuary servers; they use a different database than the normal Dayz servers, so you'll have a completely different character

i dont think it would affect the hive too much, i mean, the profiles are stored on your steam account and computer

[Linx (DayZ) 1]

@Badjr: And all of that could easilly be countered by limiting the number of charecters a person could have to say 2 per account? Sure some form of stashing would still occur but hardly as much as you make it out to be if you only get one extra character to swap betwene. It would solve the issue of people wanting to play with two diffrent groups of friends, 1 skilled and high geared group and one group of friends that just started playing, without having to worry about running them through cherno and showing them the ropes just to get shot in the head by some sniper and losing all your gear. And also for the people who just want a second character to play around with not having to worry about losing all their hard earned gear just for that, while they have a main character that they perhaps only play with friends?

[Badjr 44]

actually, almost everyone i know bought a second account and your last statement is what everyone says to ever suggestion that comes to this forums, even when they are good ideas, just like this, plus with the new thing that tracks alt f4's and dc/ reconnections using alt accounts to kill others will only bring you to your demise sooner and add your name to the ban list

Actually, using alt accounts to kill others would result in the same dc/reconnect number as respawning would. In fact, it would take longer between the DC and reconnect since you'd have to switch profiles.

As I said, there are no good outcomes to this.

At best, players will have multiple characters with multiple sets of gear with the ability to take swift revenge on those who killed them and get their gear back.

At worst, players will have hundreds of storage characters with dozens of battle characters and fights between two characters will turn into a test of who has the most characters.

i dont think it would affect the hive too much, i mean, the profiles are stored on your steam account and computer

Wrong. Your character's location, his inventory, as well as any other information about him is stored on the HIVE database. If it were stored on your steam account, there would be absolutely no way to find hackers, as you could just edit your information.

@Badjr: And all of that could easilly be countered by limiting the number of charecters a person could have to say 2 per account? Sure some form of stashing would still occur but hardly as much as you make it out to be if you only get one extra character to swap betwene. It would solve the issue of people wanting to play with two diffrent groups of friends, 1 skilled and high geared group and one group of friends that just started playing, without having to worry about running them through cherno and showing them the ropes just to get shot in the head by some sniper and losing all your gear. And also for the people who just want a second character to play around with not having to worry about losing all their hard earned gear just for that, while they have a main character that they perhaps only play with friends?

This would still cause a large stress on the hive, essentially doubling all the players stored on there aleady. There would also be the issue of how to deal with those who log in with a 3rd profile(which character loadout they are given, whether they are able to get on at all, etc.)

As I said before. You want more than one character, without having to pay?

Go on a sanctuary server, they are on a database separate from the hive.

[thedeadlysun 12]

this would benefit many people, like people who upload dayz to youtube just like myself, i currently have no room on my harddrive so my friend and i can't play dayz until i clear it out, this is why having at least 2 characters should be allowed without buying a new account

[thedeadlysun 12]

Actually, using alt accounts to kill others would result in the same dc/reconnect number as respawning would. In fact, it would take longer between the DC and reconnect since you'd have to switch profiles.

As I said, there are no good outcomes to this.

now here is where you are incorrect, the dc/rc would double therefore causing the system to watch out for the player if they dc/rc on a diff, then go back on their main and try to grab their gear

[Badjr 44]

this would benefit many people, like people who upload dayz to youtube just like myself, i currently have no room on my harddrive so my friend and i can't play dayz until i clear it out, this is why having at least 2 characters should be allowed without buying a new account

How exactly did you find a relation between lack of harddrive space and not being able to play dayz?

You don't even have to install a second arma, you can registry edit the game ID between the two.

Even then, my whole steam folder is 31 GB, of that Arma2 is a small part; if you can't spare even 31GB then you have more issues than needing a new character.

now here is where you are incorrect, the dc/rc would double therefore causing the system to watch out for the player if they dc/rc on a diff, then go back on their main and try to grab their gear

Wrong. You die, you disconnect; then you reconnect to spawn a new character.

To switch profiles You disconnect; then you switch profiles, then you reconnect.

Backing out of a server doesn't act as a disconnect, hitting "abort" is what counts as a disconnect.

Otherwise, the new fix would be bypassed by hitting escape, then abort and not backing out to server selection

[thedeadlysun 12]

How exactly did you find a relation between lack of harddrive space and not being able to play dayz?

You don't even have to install a second arma, you can registry edit the game ID between the two.

Even then, my whole steam folder is 31 GB, of that Arma2 is a small part; if you can't spare even 31GB then you have more issues than needing a new character.

Wrong. You die, you disconnect; then you reconnect to spawn a new character.

To switch profiles You disconnect; then you switch profiles, then you reconnect.

Backing out of a server doesn't act as a disconnect, hitting "abort" is what counts as a disconnect.

Otherwise, the new fix would be bypassed by hitting escape, then abort and not backing out to server selection

you dont understand anything do you? when most people upload videos they do them in a series or group, like a lets play, therefore i will not touch that character unless i am recording.....

response to the second thing, i understand what you are saying now but getting an alternate account will be exactly like having someone else to go kill the person after they die, or just having a random come after you from the gunshots they heard

[Badjr 44]

you dont understand anything do you? when most people upload videos they do them in a series or group, like a lets play, therefore i will not touch that character unless i am recording.....

response to the second thing, i understand what you are saying now but getting an alternate account will be exactly like having someone else to go kill the person after they die, or just having a random come after you from the gunshots they heard

Yes, and youtube has a functionality that will schedule uploads.

People who upload video series record many at once, and use the Youtube scheduler to release videos over a certain amount of time.

The videos are uploaded as soon as you schedule them to, and are released when specified to, allowing you to free up space to record more.

I don't know about you, but if someone is going to use multiple characters to gain an advantage and kill me I feel a hell of a lot better knowing he had to pay for them.

I'd love to hear your excuse for not using a sanctuary server though, since this option result in none of the aforementioned downsides.

You seem to be avoiding it for some reason.

Edited August 1, 2012 by Badjr

[Herb (DayZ) 121]

why are you all assuming character slots would be infinite?

[Badjr 44]

why are you all assuming character slots would be infinite?

I'm not, I was assuming the limit would be 2 as was ammended midway through the thread.

It doesn't change anything, I previously mentioned other than the amounts it can be abused.

The better alternative is still using servers on a separate database

[thedeadlysun 12]

Yes, and youtube has a functionality that will schedule uploads.

People who upload video series record many at once, and use the Youtube scheduler to release videos over a certain amount of time.

The videos are uploaded as soon as you schedule them to, and are released when specified to, allowing you to free up space to record more.

I don't know about you, but if someone is going to use multiple characters to gain an advantage and kill me I feel a hell of a lot better knowing he had to pay for them.

I'd love to hear your excuse for not using a sanctuary server though, since this option result in none of the aforementioned downsides.

You seem to be avoiding it for some reason.

im not using the servers because there is no point to! are you forgetting the reason i made this thread?!?!?!?!?!? plus you are wrong about the youtube stuff, i have unrendered videos in my harddrive therefore i can not upload them, i have to wait to play until they are all done

[Badjr 44]

im not using the servers because there is no point to! are you forgetting the reason i made this thread?!?!?!?!?!? plus you are wrong about the youtube stuff, i have unrendered videos in my harddrive therefore i can not upload them, i have to wait to play until they are all done

So instead of actually doing something(IE. have your buddies play on a non-hive server) you're instead going to ask for game-breaking additions so that you can both allow your friends to play, and not have to buy more hardrive space(the cheapest addition to a computer).

The downside of thinking through outcomes of minor/major changes makes me so much less prone to blurting out any kind of idea that has more cons than pros. Wait, nevermind that isn't a downside; thats the reason I do it.

Edited August 2, 2012 by Badjr

[thedeadlysun 12]

look, im not saying that is the only reason i want to have multiple characters, as you can see everyone aside from yourself agrees with me, you just aren't thinking with your brain

[Badjr 44]

look, im not saying that is the only reason i want to have multiple characters, as you can see everyone aside from yourself agrees with me, you just aren't thinking with your brain

That or I'm the only one in this thread who has enough foresight to see what would result from this.

It's alright, you're just thinking like someone who causes problems and not like someone who fixes them.

Nothing to be ashamed about