Poison as a weapon. (Syringe/epi pen for Bandits) and other suggestions

[lttankor7 18]

Alright guys, I got an idea. You know how if you take an epi-pen you can heal yourself or a comrade? Well, what if an Epi pen/syringe was made for bandits, thieves, or people that want to make a living killing people efficiently and quickly. That's right. Load an Epi-Pen/Syringe with Poison and Bam! They're dead. This would offer insights to new players into not trusting people offering "Free Heals". It would make survival harder and more realistic. Otherwise, if you do not like the idea of it killing instantly, It could also kill you over time.

Now, I also have three more suggestions into this idea. If you don't like poison, what if the stuff inside the epi-pen went bad? and instead of healing you, hurt you instead It would only happen if you carried around an epi-pen for too long without using it.There would be no way to know it was spoiled unless you kept track of how long it has gone without use. It would also help bandits, and- would add another level of realism to the game.

Another suggestion, is an epi-pen that could knock you out. It is a non-lethal method for bandits to loot someone without killing them. The knock-out epi-pen would knock you out for a total of maybe 2-3 minutes (developers could change the time)

Another suggestion, is a tranquilizer gun, that you could load these epi-pens into, and fire them. The effect would be similar to the epi-pens purpose (eg: Knockout epi pen knocks you out, Kill you epi-pen kills you, Heal epi pen heals you, spoiled epi pen kills you over time)

Hope you guys like my suggestions. Feel free to comment.

[Herb (DayZ) 121]

as long as theres some kind of cure for the poison

Edited July 31, 2012 by Herb

[lttankor7 18]

as long as theres some kind of cure for the poison

Of course! There would always need to be a way to counter something! For balance issues, of course.

[Max Planck 7174]

The stuff in an epi-pen is adrenaline, it takes years for it to go bad. I also have a hard time imagining a gun that would fire them.

I would like to see the medicine mechanics expanded though, maybe more antibiotics spawns along with more uses for it?

Edited July 31, 2012 by Max Planck

[Louis13245 29]

I'm not too sure about poison, as there seems to be very little point. Ammo is common enough, though I would agree that having a silent murder would be useful in some situations. I'd think, however, that the poison should last over a period of time, such as blood loss kicking in after an hour or so of gameplay, losing 12000 blood over the course of 6 hours. That way, time enough is given, and the murderer isn't instantly shot on the spot when the victim realizes they've been poisoned. Of course, this removes the use as an immediate kill, but you've got a gun and a hatchet for that.

I like the idea of tranquilizer guns though. It would be useless against the infected, but it would be a silent non lethal way of taking out someone. That way you can take down a group without bring noticed.

[brightlitefilms 37]

No. Just no. There are more than enough ways to kill humans as it is. Move towards making the game easier for the ones who wish to help others. Don't give bandits an advantage.

[Tracker (DayZ) 7]

Kind of pointless when you could just unload in their face. (with a gun, lets not get naughty here.).

[lttankor7 18]

No. Just no. There are more than enough ways to kill humans as it is. Move towards making the game easier for the ones who wish to help others. Don't give bandits an advantage.

I am. As opposed to killing a player, you could knock them out with a poisoned epi-pen, and you can rob them.

Trying to bring the "Bandit" into more of a Bandit, and not a serial killer/murderer.

[brightlitefilms 37]

But that's the thing, what that person said, why attempt to knock them out when you could just kill them? I mean, come on, that's not the point. We want people to attempt to work together, not have many ways of choosing their "nice survivor" demise.

[Golgo82 28]

Please refrain from saying epi-pen when it has absolutely nothing to do with an epinephrine pen, which essentially is an adrenaline injector..hence it would neither kill you instantly(unless injected with an insane overdose) nor knock you out.

The idea itself has interesting applications, even though with the current modus operandi of a vast majority of players there would be absolutely no point in having poison, KO(even though morphine is already in the game..just with a very different effect than RL) or whatever in injector form. Before doing any pokey pokey you would get shot..unless you are dealing with an utter asshat and manage to sneak up on him/her.

Other than what i mentioned before a Dart-Gun could be interesting with a few problems to tackle..

-Poison-Darts (Damage over time) for example could very easily become the new barbed wire; ultimate griefing tool to fuck someones day up

-Poison-Darts (Instant kill) are kind of pointless given the fact that you can drop people (kind of instantly) over ranges of up to 1000m given the right conditions (weapon/calibre/personal skill)

-KO-Darts(loaded with morphine/propofol) could make non-lethal banditry a reality, even though for that to become a "viable" alternative there would have to be a new mechanic implemented that enables the looting of unconscious people. Which of course again would be pointless due to the fact that a single 7.62mm Nato round(DMR, M24, FN FAL, M14) hitting you anywhere but the head will knock you out, administering a bandage to that person in time would leave them alive and unconscious for several minutes, ready to get plundered to the bones.

Oh..well i just realized..well nevermind.

[lttankor7 18]

But that's the thing, what that person said, why attempt to knock them out when you could just kill them? I mean, come on, that's not the point. We want people to attempt to work together, not have many ways of choosing their "nice survivor" demise.

It's still a choice. There are nice bandits, and some...not nice bandits. It all depends on what you prefer.

[Dazed 80]

I like the idea of medical supplies/food going bad and poisoning you.

[lttankor7 18]

I like the idea of medical supplies/food going bad and poisoning you.

Perhaps with food going bad,you would get food poisoning and would get a debuff of some sorts that would make your hunger go up, or your aim to go off.

Thanks for the idea!

[Max Planck 7174]

Perhaps with food going bad,you would get food poisoning and would get a debuff of some sorts that would make your hunger go up, or your aim to go off.

Thanks for the idea!

I've had a bad food poisoning in real life. I'm not going to tell you how much I shat and puked, or how violent and projectile-like, because this is such a nice forum.

But I can assure you, my hunger meter did not go up.

My aim would most likely have been off though, as I spend most of a week rolled up in the fetal position with a white hot ball of pain in my intestines.

[lttankor7 18]

I've had a bad food poisoning in real life. I'm not going to tell you how much I shat and puked, or how violent and projectile-like, because this is such a nice forum.

But I can assure you, my hunger meter did not go up.

My aim would most likely have been off though, as I spend most of a week rolled up in the fetal position with a white hot ball of pain in my intestines.

Yikes. That sucks. But still, Food poisoning could happen. I'd like to see more realistic things happen to this already realistic awesome game.

[Max Planck 7174]

Yikes. That sucks. But still, Food poisoning could happen. I'd like to see more realistic things happen to this already realistic awesome game.

We drink muddy bog water and have raw meat lying about in a backpack we found on a corpse. It would most likely happen.