How do you guys manage to play DayZ with such core problems?

[Tingle 7]

Hello fellow DayZ gamers and forum lurkers.

So I have been playing DayZ for about 2 weeks now and would actually just like to enjoy it, but this doesn't seem possible at this development state out of the following reasons.

First off bugs. This is not the first time I have played a game in such a early development state and as a fellow game developer I am used to working around bugs. So this isn't much of an issue for me and even gives the game a certain appeal having to play around bugs.

Lag issues and buggy gameplay.... Now here is a topic that pretty much destroyes the gameing experience. There are so many issues here, for example when you try to sneak around and zombies aggro from 500 meters away or they hear you very very well through walls - this makes the game very undependable and you can't trust on the mechanics, which brings me to the second issue. Trying to kill a zombie or a player. Unloading 3 clips into a zombie before he goes down is not how you should kill a zombie, and with players its sometimes even worse, you shoot at them and try to kill them before they kill you only to have never hit them. How is this even possible or was Arma 2 just as buggy? I don't really believe that... I know this is a alpha of a MOD - but these seem like core issues?

The connection.... god this is a issue. I spent about 80% of the time looking for a proper server and connecting to it just to find out the admins abuse there powers or its full of hackers and I have to search a new server? For the first problem there, I've managed to pick out a couple hosting services that have a decent connection/logging in speed - but meh, then issues 1 and 2 kick back in - and hackers don't help. Just yesterday I was playing with a group of people and we decided to call this one server our "home". Started building a small camp and just have a dude appear out of no where with a golden AK and blast us and are tents away.

This brings me to my last issue... servers! Why are there so many cunt admins and hackers all over the place destroying the gameing experience for everyone? Why is there nothing done against this? Why is the server/client model giving the client autoring privileges? P2P? Seriously? Without this model there wouldn't be any hacker problems, only admin problems to ruin your day or the normal client side hacker problems.

So all that said, what do you guys think about these issues?

Greets - Tingle

Edited July 31, 2012 by Tingle

[tockeR 16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Alpha

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

I have managed to find a good home server with good ping, no hackers (yet) and an Admin that actually deals with hackers and cheaters properly.

It sounds like many of your problems stem from having a crappy internet connection. Find a server with a good ping and take the time to find a good home server. I use UK servers where hacking seems less of a problem than in the US (for now).

Edited July 31, 2012 by Fraggle

[Gogster (DayZ) 626]

I guess problems are relatively individual, unless something gets changed that affects everyone.

I don't have any connection problems.

I don't aggro zombies unless they are on-top of me or I get caught prone on a road.

Your 3rd to last paragraph is rubbish.

Thanks for your input.

[kentk94 194]

I really don't have much of any issue with Lag or server issues. Once you locate the right servers to play on, all is generally fine.

Right now, the only thing game breaking for me is the severe graphic glitching near airfields and the seaside towns.

Other than that, I full expect that something lame is going to kill me. I know it's an Alpha release, and fully expect stupid shit to happen. I may not be happy about it when it happens, but I soon remember that it's still in development, and none of this crap matters. In other words, I don't get attached to my gear.

[Disgraced 1123]

Idiot savant when it comes to game bugs.

[Daddy'o (DayZ) 146]

Wait a minute, what is this about enjoying and playing a game? First I've heard about it. I'm here to help Rocket test his alpha zombie apocalypse simulation mod.

[Stonedknight 26]

i dont really have a problem with anything that you have stated. The zombie random aggro makes for exciting endeavors into towns. I dont have lag issues. Had my first hacker issue last night. He took all of my guns my backpack and tools. Time to regear.

I came into this mod knowing what i was getting. So yea... I am having a BLAST.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

• Patience.
  
• Humility.
  

[Tingle 7]

I have managed to find a good home server with good ping, no hackers (yet) and an Admin that actually deals with hackers and cheaters properly.

It sounds like many of your problems stem from having a crappy internet connection. Find a server with a good ping and take the time to find a good home server. I use UK servers where hacking seems less of a problem than in the US (for now).

Nah I have the best civilian internet connection in germany with a 100mbit connection.

And yea, I get this is a alpha but remember this is a mod based on a existing game - thats why I'm ok with the bug issues related to DayZ.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Tingle

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

Why are there so many fag admins and hackers all over the place

The same reason there are so many people who think using the word "fag" as a casual pejorative is acceptable.

The world is full of assholes is why. And you're one of them. Surprise!

[Sticker704 121]

I spent about 80% of the time looking for a proper server and connecting to it just to find out the admins are gay

Why are there so many fag admins and hackers

lol

I can't take this thread seriously.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Sticker704

[smiffotw@hotmail.com 2]

The same reason there are so many people who think using the word "fag" as a casual pejorative is acceptable.

The world is full of assholes is why. And you're one of them. Surprise!

Laughed and blew snot all over my screen at this

[Tingle 7]

The same reason there are so many people who think using the word "fag" as a casual pejorative is acceptable.

The world is full of assholes is why. And you're one of them. Surprise!

God you are a picky asshole. Fine how about we change the word fag to cunt. You cunt.

And if you didn't notice, I'm not raging or flaming... just wondering what the communities issues and thoughts are on these things. I admit, some sections seem like rage, but they are not.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Tingle

[ripbabyg@hotmail.co.uk 125]

God you are a picky asshole. Fine how about we change the word fag to cunt. You cunt.

what about spastic?

Edited July 31, 2012 by Authentic92

[Swineflew 480]

This thread lol.

Maybe you're a victim of your environment. I'm in the US and play on local severs to my area midwest servers.

I don't have connection or lag or server issues. I can't agree with 90% of your post.

So for me it's insanely easy to play a mod that's still heavily in development.

[z64dan 17]

The same reason there are so many people who think using the word "fag" as a casual pejorative is acceptable.

The world is full of assholes is why. And you're one of them. Surprise!

Agreed. You claim to be a "game developer" yet you talk like a 12 year old kid who doesn't understand the basics of game development (which is probably closer to the truth than 'game developer'). You're playing an alpha.

How can it take so long to look for a server? You press refresh, and sort by ping. There's your servers, it takes about 60 seconds. I know for a fact there are tons of servers in Germany. Pretty sure you just came on here to whine or troll.

As for fags or gays, that sounds like a personal problem. Check out this article for more information on your condition: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201106/homophobic-men-most-aroused-gay-male-porn

[Tingle 7]

Oh god what did I start, are you guys serious? Its just a discussion thread, not a flame war. What is wrong with you people.

This thread lol.

Maybe you're a victim of your environment. I'm in the US and play on local severs to my area midwest servers.

I don't have connection or lag or server issues. I can't agree with 90% of your post.

So for me it's insanely easy to play a mod that's still heavily in development.

Well almost every German server I've joined that isn't hosted by multiplay has a 10 min+ connection time. And I only join servers that have a ping of 30-40 or less. Maybe its just the European servers?

And I'll say it again, I am aware that this is a alpha MOD. But the core game should be on a post release stage... And the most issues I described are related to core problems.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Tingle

[Acix 132]

@OP

It's a mod, it's in alpha, this isnt here for you're enjoyment, its here to be tested and fixed. Things will get better but it will take time. Quit your QQing and go play BF3 or something... FFS

[Swineflew 480]

Oh god what did I start, are you guys serious? Its just a discussion thread, not a flame war. What is wrong with you people.

Sorry. Maybe if you didn't want to be flamed you shouldnt act like a bigot.

[Sticker704 121]

Oh god what did I start, are you guys serious? Its just a discussion thread, not a flame war. What is wrong with you people.

Sorry mate, but you'll forgive us for being like this when we've seen this sort of thread fifteen thousand times before and when you use words like gay and fag, you lose a little bit of credibility. As it stands, this game is in Alpha. We are Alpha testers and therefore there will be a multitude of glitches and bugs which cannot be helped, unless you report them which is what's been going on.

[Tingle 7]

Yea I get we are alpha testers, I'm used to working/playing in an Alpha environment. Just most of the issues I listed seem to come from core problems or a screwed up core. Things like path finding, hit detection and the basic client/server connection is something a engine normally provides - that's why I don't understand whats wrong and am wanting to discuss these issues with other people. And so far I have the impression that its a problem from my end considering no one else has issues like this? At least the connection/lag issues. Still hackers are a bitch.

PS: Using the word fag has nothing to do with gays anymore. Its a normal curse word like cunt. Ever see that one south park episode?

Edited July 31, 2012 by Tingle

[lordopeth 274]

Consider..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_of_concept

Rocket's ideas? Maybe see what the response would be from the community? ARMA3 coming out this year?

I can see Rocket "testing the waters" so to speak.

[Flatline 32]

Hello fellow DayZ gamers and forum lukers.

"I see problems"

Greets - Tingle

For EVERYONE with these kinds of issues: I've played DayZ for 4 months. I've never seen a hacker. Found that choice of server is important for your ping. Learned how to avoid death by ladder and death by door. (Just don't turn, crawl or do sudden movements, basically). Been killed maybe 10-15 times, often by bandits, a few times by zombies, occasionally by stupid mistakes. Once by a door, once by a ladder.

Log in speed: How is it an issue? Sometimes you have to spend maybe 2 minutes to get in? 3? Get yourself a cup of coffee and sit down, chill. The game is popular, don't tell me other popular online games don't suffer just as much or more from bad ping. Find a stable server or two and play on those. Always.

The zombies pathfinding: Yes Arma 2 isn't good indoors. And the zombies aggro easily sometimes. Maybe they catch your scent. JUST SHOOT THEM OR HIDE INSIDE. It is easy to shake them off now. Why do you want predictable zombies? So you can "farm the boss" because they never surprise you? I'd rather have random zombies any day. Zig-zagging zombies are cool to me because they make it hard to hit them.

Server admins: Yep, some are a-holes. Definitely. It is a problem. Hopefully they'll get shut down when they abuse the server rights.

Finally: ALPHA. ALPHA ffs.

[crazierivan 2]

I haz pancakes!!!!!!!! i will share with good admin!