Towns up North (except for Staruy) are totally useless & empty of activity

[Sticker704 121]

There are rumours...you can get yourself established with minimal risk by looting the deer stands and barns in the northern towns.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Sticker704

[Askar 177]

Towns up north are dead? Tell that to the people who almost kill me half the time I go into them to help patients. Don't even get me started on the deathtrap that is Lopatino.

[kentk94 194]

Brezino has 2 stores, hospitals, military tents, factory and a few other nice areas to loot. I'm talking about towns like Petrovka and Gvozdno

JFC...Let me point out some features in both of these towns that are worth going to.

Gvozdno has 2 medium yield loot barns and a high yield barn to the east. Not to mention that it also has a pond nearby for filling up water bottles. Yeah, totally fucking useless and no reason at all to go there. And before you piss and moan about barns sucking, what is going to happen when you can no longer dupe your ammo? You're going to need to get shotgun shells and shit from somewhere right?

Petrovka, while it really doesn't have much, also has a well for filling up your water bottles.

Not every damn town needs to have the bestest most fantabulouslo loot in the game.

And pro tip...the northern section of woods is not exactly a safe spot. Numerous clans set up heavily guarded base camps in that area.

Honestly, all I see is someone who wants to berate and belittle another person who has a different opinion...

[ZlobaRUS54 441]

The map is just perfect for 50 player atm.

[Izziee 128]

Towns up north are full of the DEAD.

fixed

Also - OP, shut up.

[evoxtom 142]

People are still not getting the point.

If you have hunting supplies- these towns are useless. If you have a backpack worthy of many spaces- again, useless. If you have even a basic AKM, again- useless. (it zeroes and kills just as good or better than others and ammo is everywhere.) If you have binos you found in Cherno before going up, again it's useless.

Normally I get full gear before roaming up. Northern towns are a waste and are visited by many for car parts.

Are you really going into a barn up north when you have an assault rifle (even a basic 74?) crazy....

Give the small towns tents with a chance of higher grade loot and then you have a reason to go in. ( as an example)

Most people encountering others are prob running into those who are meeting up with friends. I normally just use northern towns to try to find a straggler to kill or meet up with friends.

... Not for loot unless you're talking zino, NWAF, stary. Those are not even being considered "lonely" northern towns... Not going to debate those. They hold the good items.

Edited July 31, 2012 by evoxtom

[gr33nth1ng 6]

lets just nuke the northern towns and spawn every on in the same place, every time. Then we don't have to survive, we can just spawn and die. This way you never need food, water, or medical supplies! Lets just make the map 1 city with just a little bit of woods.. then we can all spawn in the city and get people together into groups and go and attack other groups. Oh we could even make certain areas control points, where you have to occupy the control point for a certain amount of time before it belongs to you.. then you get points for controlling that area and whoever has the most points wins. Dude! we could even ad a flag or Gideon to the game for each group, and you have to go steal their flag and return it to your flag to get points.. again the most points win.

We should also spawn with assault rifles.. and have spawn points give out ammo and medical supplies more, since we wont be needing the food and water to stay alive, because lets face it.. we wont be alive long. The game should also spawn us into some sort of team to make getting people into groups easier. And let just get rid of the zombies too, that way we can concentrate on killing each other. Oh and we should change the name of the game.. we can call it, Tom Clancy's tactical non-zombie apocalypse counter strike death match team flag capturing game.. Hmm kind of a long name, but we can work on it.

Edited July 31, 2012 by gr33nth1ng

[mrducky (DayZ) 33]

Yeah, the small towns are "useless" if you already know the game well enough and can easily manage a loot run to one of the bigger cities and get most of your gear from those.

But then again, at that point, ALL of the locations in the map are basically useless, even the bigger cities, because you don't really need anything.

But if you are a new player, or want to try surviving without PvP and possibly have some player encounters with in some new ways, then going to a small town can even be sensible.

Though I usually nowadays just grab some assault rifle from balota after a respawn and then get the ALICE and stock up at cherno or something alike, I lately tried out just running to a middle map small town right after spawn. Grabbed a hatchet on my way there and started slaughtering the zeds from the town with the hatchet. Constantly running from one end of the town to another and cleaning up the loot from the small residential houses, sheds and a barns there. It probably took me less than 2 hours to get a winny, revolver, alice, compass, water, binocs, etc. etc. Basically all survival gear "maxed out" - apart from having morphines or having a military grade weapon / nvgs.

So for survival, by essentially collecting the loot in a small town, you can get all you need. So in that sense, they are not useless if you opt for that style of play... But obviously, you can get the same gear much faster in some larger coastal city.

So yeah, I guess they are a bit useless, but not every town in the map has to be the next cherno with PvP deathmatch going on and military loot spawning in.

[Tigger (DayZ) 24]

Not true. Towns might be dead, but the are inbetween isn't. And what would you want? A perfectly uniform map that is the same everywhere?

2 days ago I was jogging through a forest NW of Gvozdno, and I spotted a crashed helicopter through the branches. Laying down with binocs out, I noticed 2 camps in addition to the helicopter and within 5 minutes, 2 individual groups of players combed through the area.

This was after I spent some time observing a couple working around their camp on top of a mountain N of Pobeda dam.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Tigger

[jukaga 271]

I tend to agree.

I think it's beause there is absolutely NO chance of getting any good gear in most of those towns, so why risk going into the zombie hive?

Loot needs to be much more random and there needs to be a chance that you'll find that AWESOME piece of kit in unexpected places...Give me a reason to look in some of these towns, because at the moment, I just go around the deer stands and barns and visit the odd grocery store.

That I can get behind. I would like to see more loot randomization. It should be more likely for those military spawns in NWAF or Stary but why not a small chance that they could spawn anywhere?

[evoxtom 142]

In reply to some who keep mentioning "you want every town to be a dm center with then same loot?" I will refer you to my initial post in this thread, which I recommend reading entirely. That's fine if you don't, just don't debate with me then.

Anyways, if someone says a city is great because it has a water well to refill your bottle ... Well... I'm going to hold judgement.

[Mr-Zer0 62]

They can't edit the f*cking map. Period.

[ED-E 4]

So fucking what if some of the towns are "dead"? Every place doesn't have to be equally attractive.

On a side-note regarding the active cities: I hate when people cry about constantly being killed in Cherno and Elektro by bandits. Here's a tip - Don't go there then. Run to the "dead" cities and stock up instead. Solved.

[Blakorr 77]

People are still not getting the point.

If you have hunting supplies- these towns are useless. If you have a backpack worthy of many spaces- again, useless. If you have even a basic AKM, again- useless. (it zeroes and kills just as good or better than others and ammo is everywhere.) If you have binos you found in Cherno before going up, again it's useless.

Normally I get full gear before roaming up. Northern towns are a waste and are visited by many for car parts.

Are you really going into a barn up north when you have an assault rifle (even a basic 74?) crazy....

Give the small towns tents with a chance of higher grade loot and then you have a reason to go in. ( as an example)

Most people encountering others are prob running into those who are meeting up with friends. I normally just use northern towns to try to find a straggler to kill or meet up with friends.

... Not for loot unless you're talking zino, NWAF, stary. Those are not even being considered "lonely" northern towns... Not going to debate those. They hold the good items.

if i had an AK and it was running low on ammo i would absolutely go into a barn and ditch it for whatever i found in there. i'd much rather have a low tier primary with a ton of ammo than carry a higher level gun that's nearly out of bullets. you never know when you're going to get into a sustained firefight or when the next zombie rush will happen. Edited July 31, 2012 by Blakorr

[random51 172]

All of those civilian loot spawns have a chance of producing camo or ghillie suits. I typically will hit a town like that at dusk or dawn, when I can see OK but the zombies can't. Hit every spawn, grabbing what I can use.

Just because YOU think they're useless doesn't mean they're useless to everybody.

Just today I was hunting forever, could not find an animal to save my life---literally---I had to hit a small town for emergency rations. It seems like that sometimes, your pack is full of food there is a wild boar behind every tree. You're about to starve and the only thing you can find is a rabbit 1000m away that disappears right before you get close enough to kill it.

[sheogorath 0]

What's with people wanting to turn every town into a deathmatch arena...

[=RK=Achilles 31]

If your only objective in the game is to "survive", yes the all towns are useless. Just sit in the woods, hunt, drink, and log off when it rains. I bet you could live forever. But those of us with imaginations like to create a story. Put ourselves in threaten situations, even if it's not to PK. You can ALWAYS use another tent or find a piece of gear you don't have already. If you do have one already, find a spare. MAKE UP reasons to go places. I like to move around just so I can watch another player from a distance. Even that gets my heart racing. If I were actually trying for a record for days survived, being super careful and sitting in the woods 24/7 would be the way to go. But I would be hella bored...

Edited July 31, 2012 by =ST=Achilles

[tarin4med@gmail.com 10]

I don't find them useless at all. I won't go to stary or the airfields just because they are just pvp hot spots.

Sure I don't need the food or pop that can be found in the villages but I have no issue at all eating and drinking anything and everything I find in them.

I don't see people at every village I have been to but I have been killed more at all the towns up north than I have been kill in cherno, elektro or any of the other costal towns that are near spawns.

[kentk94 194]

Anyways, if someone says a city is great because it has a water well to refill your bottle ... Well... I'm going to hold judgement.

Where the hell in my post did I mention the word "great"? L2Read. I simply pointed out that they are not, in fact, completely useless.

And another thing, there isn't one spot in the OP that even comes close to talking about having an AK and fantastic loot. Of course these towns are not worth it if you have the military grade stuff. But for those people that are making their way around the map, they are fine.

Edited July 31, 2012 by kentk94

[sausagekingofchicago 4711]

OP fails to notice the use of a city without a bunch of morons running around shooting at anything that moves.

[LastShenanigan 8]

I don't get your point sorry.

I'm very familiar with the towns that do and do not have stores. It's the towns that do not have stores and are up north that are dead. Sure there may be the occasional passerby but for the most part it's dead. Know why? Because there is no point in going there.

I think what you meant to say was "there is no point in deathmatching there". I spend 90% of my time in the North and frequently spot other players, the difference is most are just passing through picking up supplies food/water and continuing on. What exactly is the problem, do you want to see someone every 15 seconds? Are you mad because you spent 2 hours hiding out on a rooftop hoping to snipe another player in a tiny little town never to see one? There are plenty of small barely visited towns right next to the major cities too. I'm amazed at the random things people will complain about. If you want to be in a town with lots of players Fing walk to one.

[kajonna 8]

long story short:

logged out of game in one of those dead cities up north, after a hard day.

was too busy for days, so i came back like 3 days later, just to find out, that the tiny little, useless, dead city up north has been wired ALL AROUND I MEAN ALL THE BLOODY WAY AROUND, with one exit only.

later found out, that one of the hardcore american clans claimed the city as their territory:O

it's not that dead imo.

Edited July 31, 2012 by kajonna

[junglist (DayZ) 6]

I love these posts. The beauty of this game is people can play the game however they want to. They can spawn in Electro gear up and start hunting players right off the bat if they choose to. They can gear up run north, and survive in the wilderness if they choose too. I can go on and on about possible paths a player can choose to take in this game. I believe that is what Rocket's vision of this game is. It is all subject to opinion, and telling people they are WRONG or RIGHT is only your opinion on how you THINK the game should be played. My suggestion is take a look at DayzDB and look at the percentage of what can spawn in those areas, and then make the call if they are useless or not. Either way opinions are like assholes everyone has one and they smell bad most of the time.

Happy Hunting/Surviving!

[kentk94 194]

long story short:

logged out of game in one of those dead cities up north, after a hard day.

was too busy for days, so i came back like 3 days later, just to find out, that the tiny little, useless, dead city up north has been wired ALL AROUND I MEAN ALL THE BLOODY WAY AROUND, with one exit only.

later found out, that one of the hardcore american clans claimed the city as their territory:O

it's not that dead imo.

Awesome! People out there using their imaginations and having fun in the sandbox. I love seeing/hearing about this. I've already seen some pretty creative videos of what people have done with less traveled areas up north.

[evoxtom 142]

Where the hell in my post did I mention the word "great"? L2Read. I simply pointed out that they are not, in fact, completely useless.

And another thing, there isn't one spot in the OP that even comes close to talking about having an AK and fantastic loot. Of course these towns are not worth it if you have the military grade stuff. But for those people that are making their way around the map, they are fine.

I did read correctly. You're justifying the town because of one water well.

You could just say the town is useless then... But then you'd be on the same side I'm on.