CZ550 vs M24

[-Gews- 7443]

the CZ loses a lot of velocity over 400m therefore making it a lot less powerful

The M24's bullet travels faster than the CZ-550. This means it ends up being a lot more accurate for moving targets.

The m24 isn't worth the space in your bag. It don't kill shit past 300 and your lucky if it does then. I've hit players square in the chest on the move At 400 and they just keep running . The cz seems to hurt more at range.

As it has been mentioned a thousand times the stats are the EXACT same other than the retort (Loudness) as stated before (post #41)

Some misconceptions in this thread. I've been using these rifles a lot lately so I looked up and tested their exact stats.

-The M24 fires 30 m/s faster than the CZ550, 3.4% faster, meaning damage increases by about 3.4%. That's a negligible difference in speed and power, so don't worry about either.

-Both rifle's damages fall off at the exact same rate. The M24 will always have a couple percent more damage due to the higher muzzle velocity, but both will take away about 3,000 blood (3,120 vs 3,014) at 1000 meters.

-Accuracy: they are most definitely not the same. At 1000 meters the M24 can place rounds in a 12 cm circle. With the CZ550 that swells to 45 cm, or almost four times the dispersion. At most ranges these differences don't really matter since a person is much larger than 45cm across, but if you're trying for a long-range headshot it's important.

[Powell (DayZ) 734]

CZ every time

[mushroom911 14]

IMO the DMR is the best rifle in the game. Screw effective range, you usually cannot aquire targets past 600m.

The DMR is almost as accurate as an m24, uses the same round, has a higher mag capacity (less space) and can use NVG's (which is a huge factor)

my mate killed 3 and a half person in rapid succession with the DMR aiming east from stary (half because one got away with no blood)

they were coming in via vehicle and he started by shooting out the tire and cutting them down while they were still panicking.

So it's pretty awesome to have a DMR.

P.S the CZ uses the 9mm mauser, not the 308 win.

Edited April 20, 2013 by Psychiatrist

[-Gews- 7443]

IMO the DMR is the best rifle in the game. Screw effective range, you usually cannot aquire targets past 600m.

Agreed, the DMR is easily the best general-purpose rifle, and frequently the best "special-purpose" rifle as well.

P.S the CZ uses the 9mm mauser, not the 308 win.

My God, don't get me started :lol: the CZ is a rifle with a serious identity crisis.

It says it uses 9.3x62mm, but the configuration file says it uses 7.62x51mm. At the same time, it has the muzzle velocity of the 7.62x54R rifles, not the 7.62x51 muzzle velocity. The damage would suggest it uses either of the 7.62s.

And to top it all off, the magazines are called "5x_22_LR_17_HMR", which is just... incredible confusing.

I consider it a 7.62x51 since it behaves like one and the CZ doesn't come in 7.62x54R.

[sanguinius 7]

It's a shame the CZ ingame doesn't actually use the 9mm Mauser. Then I would use it all day.

In terms of performance, M24 beats CZ. Every time. It's more accurate, slightly more powerful, ammo is more plentiful (especially since you can split down DMR mags... Which are as common as people's opinions.It's easier to adjust if you have the skills, and... it's camouflaged. And it shares ammo with the M40a3!

But I still choose the CZ if I can. Why? Because...

I have no idea, but I'll get back to you on that.

Of course, once I get an M40a3, all shall pale in the light of my orgasmic happiness...

[mushroom911 14]

tbh I don't want this thead to die because it's full of juicy opinions and stuff... so.

yes, I do think the m24 is slightly better than the cz in terms of ammo availability and scope quality.

However if ammo wasn't a factor they would come off equal... assuming you have NVG's.

btw good note on the 9mm mauser thing, I hadn't really looked into it much and my comment was mostly based on assumption.

also the 22lr thing made me lol.

Edited April 21, 2013 by Psychiatrist

[Henryllex~ 407]

M24 just because of ammo, i like the chevron scope on the CZ, i cant count the times a cz has saved my life, but i just cant find ammo for the CZ

[-Gews- 7443]

I actually have a CZ right now, chose it over a DMR "just because", I probably would have chosen it over an M24 as well because making long range shots feels more rewarding with the harder-to-use CZ. I'm so stoked about using it on someone.

[jBrick 116]

I honestly must say this a load of bumbling shit. I can say from experience and countless hours of study on sniping and marksmanship, all of these weapons are in their correct categories. I would say he is more correct in every way than you.

DMRs

The DMR (Designated Marksman Rifle M14/T44/M21), notice that no where in there does it say sniper, long range, or anti-material. It is a converted battle rifle (m14), made specifically for engaging targets out of the range of the typical 5.56x45mm assault rifle. It was never intended to be a sniping weapon, and the m24 is much more commonly used by law enforcement. The SVD is also a DMR, issued with the PSO-1 scope, a 4x close-medium range scope, while your average M24 is issued with an advanced Leupold 10x long range sniper scope, you can see my point.

Sniper Rifles

Although most uneducated people in his topic (you know who you are, don't be embarrassed, you only sound dumb when you think you know a lot) would say that the M107 (originally the M82) and AS50 are sniper rifles, and to some extent you are right. Both of these weapons were designed to be accurate and powerful at very long range, but their high caliber automatically makes then anti-material rifles, no matter what. The M24 is a dedicated sniper weapon, built from the ground up as a high accuracy, long range rifle. The CZ550 is a hunting weapon, not manufactured to the same quality, or designed with the same purpose. Hunting weapons are designed to be simple and able to hit a fat deer at ranges under a kilometer with a reasonable chance (don't bitch about this, it's a generalization stating a general point). The M24 is designed to be used a highly trained specialist team in high risk areas on high risk missions, not to bring down a buck from 150 meters.

Anti-Material Rifles

High caliber (.50 BMG, 12.7x108 Russian, etc.) rifles, even if designed for sniping, are not sniper rifles. No matter what, an AS50 will always be a AM rifle because of its caliber, and no matter how much you bitch and whine, is not gonna fucking change.

That raps up my rant, I congratulate Zantiago for being the biggest shithead on this post, and congratulation aids of being the most intelligent.

Your very much caught up in the semantics or wording and focusing on that. I remember when the DC shootings were occurring and everyone was calling them "snipers" despite the fact they were shooting from inside 200m. "Anti Material Rifle" is a classification given to higher calibre rifles that may be effective against vehicles. Does that mean that they no longer serve other purposes such as extreme range target shooting? No. That means they have another possible use, such as blowing out an engine on a Humvee. They are, in fact, still a sniper rifle. Carlos Hathcock, one of the best snipers in history, even used a mounted machine gun with a butterfly trigger and scope to engage targets at long range while in Vietnam. At that point even that weapon was being used in a sniping format. A .338 Lapua Magnum held the distance record for longest sniper shot... you can't say that because its higher calibre it is no longer a sniper rifle. For me, a sniper rifle is a rifle designed to be used at long distance.

A Sniper Rifle is a rifle that is used by a Sniper that is also a rifle. For long range shooting it can be a Barrett M98 or M107...hell, If you made an accurized AKM with a 10 power scope threw some Ghillie mesh on it and shot people at 1000 meters would you still call it an assault rifle?

[Cap'n (DayZ) 1827]

People who use CZ550 are men. People who use M24 are military wannabe bandits who aren't good but for shits & giggles.

[Cap'n (DayZ) 1827]

Fun fact:

A CZ550 will run you about $800 less scope, a new M24 will run you (as a civilian, if you can find one) about $7000... gah! Price gouging... <_<

That's only relevant to Americans and some Europeans(that never goes a long way). My CZ .22lr cost about six hundred brand new. I use it for school shooting team, and it has some damn fine accuracy. And the average person won't run across a M24 at a gun shop. The closest gunshop to us has two .338 Lapua's and a .300 BLK AR-15, yet they don't carry the M24. And when was the last time someone needed an M24 to hunt deer? I can't see it being any good for self defense, and it just seems overkill for hunting deer that are only 30 meters away from you.

[sanguinius 7]

People who use CZ550 are men. People who use M24 are military wannabe bandits who aren't good but for shits & giggles.

Agreed.

[callsignBravo (DayZ) 323]

Earlier!

The CZ550 had a Zeroing of up to 800meters, and killed in 2-4 hits, depending on where you hit a guy.

However, the M24 had zeroing up to 1000meters, and could kill in oneshot even at 1400+meters (Confirmed)

Now, the M24 is a Camo version of the CZ550, they use the same caliber rounds, do the same damage, has the same zeroing range, and in terms of sound?

Most snipers make the same sound in terms of volume now. It's just the acustic that's diffrent on some.

So the only diffrence is the mil-dots on the hunting scope that comes with the M24.

So now sniper's can pretty much be ranked by 4.

From top to Bottom. AS50, M107, SVD Dragunov Camo (due to rangefinder, and accuracy), DMR (yupp, it's better than M24, CZ550, same damage, but larger clips, and faster fireing speed)

This is all from a snipers point of view, and i have tried nearly all the sniper's after the nerf/buffs.

(but everything is based on user preference though, don't forget that)

i dissagree with you there the DMR is argably the bes sniper all around it has large mags, good damage, high ROF, a good scope accuracy, AwEsOmEnSs and last but not least easy to get mags

[joinnkakashi@gmail.com 31]

That's only relevant to Americans and some Europeans(that never goes a long way). My CZ .22lr cost about six hundred brand new. I use it for school shooting team, and it has some damn fine accuracy. And the average person won't run across a M24 at a gun shop. The closest gunshop to us has two .338 Lapua's and a .300 BLK AR-15, yet they don't carry the M24. And when was the last time someone needed an M24 to hunt deer? I can't see it being any good for self defense, and it just seems overkill for hunting deer that are only 30 meters away from you.

M24, M40? Just upgraded stocks on the Remington Model 700, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M24_Sniper_Weapon_System

[W. Flonk 18]

Who the fuck cares about how effective it is, it just matters how awesome it looks, c'mon guys.

l33t sc0ut sniper

[Nothing1231 6]

 If you made an accurized AKM with a 10 power scope threw some Ghillie mesh on it and shot people at 1000 meters would you still call it an assault rifle?

 

 

 

Yes you would, its based on caliber and the AKM fires an intermediate round.

Edited September 19, 2013 by _nothing_

[Frytek 130]

I checked in arma firing range, and it turns out that CZ has slightly slower projectile. The cartridge is bigger on CZ, so it should deal bigger damage. Scope is not that bad on Cz, you can actually find range on it with the side stripes (video on youtube showing how).

The damage on both farther than 600 meters, simply suck.

[Korsbaek 1778]

This topic is more than one year old

[plexico 386]

I honestly must say this a load of bumbling shit. I can say from experience and countless hours of study on sniping and marksmanship, all of these weapons are in their correct categories. I would say he is more correct in every way than you.

DMRs

The DMR (Designated Marksman Rifle M14/T44/M21), notice that no where in there does it say sniper, long range, or anti-material. It is a converted battle rifle (m14), made specifically for engaging targets out of the range of the typical 5.56x45mm assault rifle. It was never intended to be a sniping weapon, and the m24 is much more commonly used by law enforcement. The SVD is also a DMR, issued with the PSO-1 scope, a 4x close-medium range scope, while your average M24 is issued with an advanced Leupold 10x long range sniper scope, you can see my point.

Sniper Rifles

Although most uneducated people in his topic (you know who you are, don't be embarrassed, you only sound dumb when you think you know a lot) would say that the M107 (originally the M82) and AS50 are sniper rifles, and to some extent you are right. Both of these weapons were designed to be accurate and powerful at very long range, but their high caliber automatically makes then anti-material rifles, no matter what. The M24 is a dedicated sniper weapon, built from the ground up as a high accuracy, long range rifle. The CZ550 is a hunting weapon, not manufactured to the same quality, or designed with the same purpose. Hunting weapons are designed to be simple and able to hit a fat deer at ranges under a kilometer with a reasonable chance (don't bitch about this, it's a generalization stating a general point). The M24 is designed to be used a highly trained specialist team in high risk areas on high risk missions, not to bring down a buck from 150 meters.

Anti-Material Rifles

High caliber (.50 BMG, 12.7x108 Russian, etc.) rifles, even if designed for sniping, are not sniper rifles. No matter what, an AS50 will always be a AM rifle because of its caliber, and no matter how much you bitch and whine, is not gonna fucking change.

That raps up my rant, I congratulate Zantiago for being the biggest shithead on this post, and congratulation aids of being the most intelligent.

I think you're acting like it's real life too much, something that happens a lot in arguments on this forum. Sure they aren't considered Sniper Rifles in real life, but in DayZ, that's what they are mainly used for, the main difference between a DMR and an M24 is the zeroing and rapid fire, and all snipers are generally the same with the exception that the anti-material rifles are 1 hit kills and fuck the shit out of vehicles.

 

Basically what I'm saying is that these rifles are all sniper rifles in the game, they are all used for sniping, and one wouldn't drop an AS50 because it's an anti-material rifle and not a sniper rifle.

 

I would personally choose the M24, the only real reason is because of the mildots.

Edited September 20, 2013 by Plexico

[Deathwind (DayZ) 28]

I think the CZ takes the trophy with its overflowing abundance of lootable ammo all around the map.

[Capo 323]

i like the cz550 better because of the feel of it. I've gotten used to using the sidestrips to estimate range and can now do so more effectively than with a mildot scope. it's not quite as useful in the wild due to only being able to estimate range accurately if the target is facing(or facing away from) the sniper. This isn't an issue around towns as you can find a zombie and range off of them. It seems that 1.8 has increased availability of ammo so ammo isnt a massive issue. 

that being said m24/mildot is easier to learn on the fly (I had to use armory to get a feel for the CZ), and more useful in general, as it estimates off of height, and finding a dmr mag is like finding 4 mags in 1.

 

I wouldn't use either rifle if you're sighting the target at 700 meters+ unless you're a great sniper. The damage drop off, coupled with likely inaccuracy makes it too frequent that the target will escape, and/or come back at you. 

m40 is more useful than both when coupled with a ghillie suit. Although I prefer the CZ 550 for its authentic feel, and generally not having to watch my back constantly when I'm looting ammo. 

Edited September 30, 2013 by Capo

[Nothing1231 6]

Considering that DayZ Standalome will most likely have and not have a CZ550 and M24 (respectively), let's move the discussion to CZ vs Mosin, which is better based on experience from both games?

[-Gews- 7443]

Considering that DayZ Standalome will most likely have and not have a CZ550 and M24 (respectively), let's move the discussion to CZ vs Mosin, which is better based on experience from both games?

 

Such an old thread... you can't properly compare them, different games, the fully-equipped Mosin is better because [a] it's often a one-shot kill and the Mosin is almost perfectly accurate with either bipod or compensator and a properly-functioning long-range scope. As well the scope has variable magnification and if you move your FoV slider you can double it. The CZ's only advantage is that you can press "R" to reload faster. If you ignore the FoV slider then in ARMA the CZ is better because you can reload faster, the scope has more magnification, never shoots to the left, and it kills in one shot out to 900 or so meters and is still effective much further.