SiGouin 25 Posted July 26, 2012 I heard the was damage reductions, and i found on dayz wiki that the lee enfield is 1 hit kill: body or head. i Found another website saying the enfield does 12498 now that same website today is telling me it does 6722 http://dayzdb.com/database/lee-enfieldLast night i one shot killed a guy all the way across the airfield (took a full clip to actualy land the shot) and since then i have been ignoring every gun i find, and sticking to the one hit kill enfield.But after looking up these dmg stats, and hearing about reduction... im thinking i should probably ditch the gun if they nerfed it... not only is it the "dinner bell" but if i go face to face with someone with an AK lets say, even if i get the first hit, im probably gonna get killed... shitty...Can anyone confirm if the dmg reduction is true? and since when? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peke_kantsi@hotmail.com 36 Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) Again the game is about simulation .308 with expanding hunting bullets deal a great damage to human body. Edited July 26, 2012 by korppi300 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scerun 227 Posted July 26, 2012 That sucks like hell. I hope its audible range is reduced way down to keep it even remotely disirable.Kind of a shame really, I always witnessed that gun as the great equaliser between long term survivors and new-spawns. Effective against snipers due to it's great range and accuracy, and deadly to be hit with.Someone will need to confirm this from in-game, though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheTigger 34 Posted July 26, 2012 Ehhh it should go back to being the one hit wonder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stupar123 6 Posted July 26, 2012 Don't believe it,only M1911 got some buggy reduction,as much as I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfstriked 143 Posted July 26, 2012 WTF is going on??Did not Rocket state that this mod will not do anything to balance the game?Yet the first signs of balancing are nerfs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izithel 23 Posted July 26, 2012 WTF is going on??Did not Rocket state that this mod will not do anything to balance the game?Yet the first signs of balancing are nerfs.These balance changes are done by the Bohemia team, not by rocket and the DayZ team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zq7 67 Posted July 26, 2012 Don't believe it,only M1911 got some buggy reduction,as much as I know.There is nothing to 'believe', those are facts.The dayzdb staff looked at the content of the 1.62 update and found those number in the weapons.pbo file (might be wrong about the file but they still found the info within the game files).It's not like they talked to the ArmA 2 fairy that pulled those number out of her ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfstriked 143 Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) These balance changes are done by the Bohemia team, not by rocket and the DayZ team.LOL,its funny that I posted what you just said about two hours ago.Yes it is from BIS and not Rocket and I am sorry for jumping the gun there.That is weird how a high realism sim is now tweaking damages as if they had it wrong before.Just checked the "new" stats and it shows the Ak's as weaker than the M4's and the M4's the same damage output as an M16.Whats going on with this?I modded my Stalker game yrs back and after extensive searching I found that the 5.45x39 weapons are on par with the 5.56x45 weapons.And when you reduced a weapons barrel length you reduce the force it leaves the end with.Some weird tweaks there. Edited July 26, 2012 by wolfstriked 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daze23 549 Posted July 26, 2012 These balance changes are done by the Bohemia team, not by rocket and the DayZ team.well they're all in bed togetherI don't know what happened exactly, or if this was intended to affect DayZ, but the idea that DayZ and Arma 2 are completely separate isn't really true. a lot of these things in the recent Arma 2 beta updates were to accommodate things in DayZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mindtrucks 28 Posted July 26, 2012 http://dayzdb.com/news/weapon-changes-in-arma2-162Apparently plenty of guns have been nerfed. The lee enfield did get its audible range reduced though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfstriked 143 Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) I can kinda understand the reduction of the Enfield to slightly below the 7.62 rounds......but the AK74 is equal to the M16 and the aksu is equal to an M4 and so on.Seems like this is the balancing that they said would not happen.But this is gamey and makes for the easier to find weapons to be less powerful etc....where does it end?LOL posted by Coolbreaker at DayzDB""i think only the Enfield is qualified to nerf. Don't understand why M1911 shouldn't do one-shot-kills to Zombies .. and even all the other pistols did so less damage, now its more effective to throw empty tins :/ !!-maybe dayz-developers would react with setting zombies blood level down ?"" Edited July 26, 2012 by wolfstriked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xwhitemousex 67 Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) They are kinda doing it on the wrong end though.If this is gonna be a survival game and not just another Sniper Ghost Warrior clone they need to reduce the amount military grade weapons in the game. Yes, I know ArmA is a mil-sim, but if you want a full rack of military weapons, play vanilla ArmA and not a mod like DayZ.DayZ as a survival game where people are thrown in as unarmed civilians should have mostly handguns like revolvers and semi-auto pistols, and some shotguns like the doublebarrel, pump action and semi-auto shotguns... and the rare scoped hunting rifle. Finding highpowered military weapons such as AK's, M16. M4's, AS50's, M107's, DMR, Dragunov and other purely military weapons should be extremely rare.But, this is based on a military simulator so naturally there is an overload of military weapons in the game.It never made sense to me why I'd find a DMR in a random deerstand... or a G17 for that matter.... or why there is AK47's floating around in a civilian fire station. That makes sense...oh wait, it doesn't.1. Remove high end military weapon spawns from fire stations, deerstands and other civilian structures2. Bring handguns and shotgun damage back up to speed3. Make ammunition for scoped rifles and military grade weapons very rare.It actually makes me laugh to watch DayZ videos on youtube where people aren't playing for surviving... they are running around in the woods with ghillie suits and M249 machineguns... just as if they were playing a regular mission in vanilla ArmA2... hunting players rather than having to worry about food, water, keeping warm, disease, weather and zombies.It gets even better when threads start popping up where people are asking for armed vehicles / technicals with machineguns mounted on top (e.g. hummvee with .50 cal on roof).If you want all that military stuff, the weapons, snipers, armed vehicles... why are you playing DayZ and not regular ArmA2 multiplayer? Edited July 26, 2012 by xwhitemousex 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Grimmer 11 Posted July 26, 2012 I kinda of like the dmg reduction in a way, because yesterday me and my friend had a shootout with 3 other people, and I lived in part because they only hit me once with a handgun, which had gimped damage ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
astriantis@hotmail.com 25 Posted July 26, 2012 I like the changes actually. It's just kinda weird for the AKs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfstriked 143 Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) YEs the AK's got the bad end of this deal.The weapons that untrained men use to fight against the worlds best trained armies and do rather well and its nerfed. :(And then the shortened versions like the AKS-74u and the M4A1 have same damage as their longer barreled versions is bad also.WTF BIS? AK's doing same damage as silenced M4's.:( Edited July 26, 2012 by wolfstriked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s.taylor.75@gmail.com 23 Posted July 26, 2012 This is their first step away from the "realistic" at all cost motto they use to describe dayz. AK damage makes no sense. Professional soldiers love that weapon, some in spec ops even prefer it over the US issued M4 because it is so freakin reliable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtierParrot 0 Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) Again the game is about simulation .308 with expanding hunting bullets deal a great damage to human body.Last I checked, an Enfield uses a .303 hollow tip not a .308. That isn't saying it should do any less damage, but I still think that should be a one shot kill to the body. Edited July 26, 2012 by DirtierParrot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xwhitemousex 67 Posted July 27, 2012 Of course the AK-47 is reliable. It was based on the german StG 44.German engineering, always reliable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irnbruboy77@yahoo.com 2 Posted August 7, 2012 Of course the AK-47 is reliable. It was based on the german StG 44.German engineering, always reliable.It wasn't based on it mechanically at all. Only the concept. So German engineering doesn't play a part in the success of the AK rifles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buffjesus 357 Posted August 7, 2012 It wasn't based on it mechanically at all. Only the concept. So German engineering doesn't play a part in the success of the AK rifles.please dont google search dead threads then revive them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irnbruboy77@yahoo.com 2 Posted September 20, 2012 please dont google search dead threads then revive themI do what I want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sodanorway 2 Posted September 20, 2012 I do what I want.Laughable.Wheres the admin to show you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites