Donaghue 3 Posted July 23, 2012 The title says it all. I admit freely that I haven't used the crowbar often, and after my few experiences I'm glad of it. Most of the time it doesn't hit when you swing it (or it does and you simply can't tell), and seems to take at least half a dozen hits (based on near-miss SFX) before an infected will succumb. It's like like beating someone to death with a limp....noodle. So I'm told.If my experience is accurate, then in my opinion having the crowbar is worse than being unarmed, simply because you don't feel so vulnerable anymore. Kinda like the devs are trolling us. :DI recommend either a damage boost or just ditch the thing altogether. Preferably option B; the hatchet is a much better substitute and, again in my experience, as common as dirt. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thatcommiekid 57 Posted July 23, 2012 Dam is not whats important its hit detection! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donaghue 3 Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) I would imagine they both are. One without the other is useless. As it stands, they're both screwed. Edited July 23, 2012 by Donaghue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blaf 63 Posted July 23, 2012 Crowbar is supposed to have much lesser damage than dual hand pickhead axe and i think it should stay that way.Actually i wouldnt mind hatchet being rarer loot and having greater variety of low-damage weapons/tools instead (pipe, crowbar, rubber chicken etc.) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thatcommiekid 57 Posted July 23, 2012 Crowbar is supposed to have much lesser damage than dual hand pickhead axe and i think it should stay that way.Actually i wouldnt mind hatchet being rarer loot and having greater variety of low-damage weapons/tools instead (pipe, crowbar, rubber chicken etc.)You make a very good point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrettHarrenton 29 Posted July 23, 2012 Cant you find a gun? do you want to remove empty soda cans because they're also useless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thatcommiekid 57 Posted July 23, 2012 Cant you find a gun? do you want to remove empty soda cans because they're also uselessI also agree with this... at least give them a purpose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donaghue 3 Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Cant you find a gun? do you want to remove empty soda cans because they're also uselessYes, I can find a gun, eventually. They all have strengths and weaknesses that I don't doubt you're more familiar with than I am. Likewise, the empty cans can be thrown to distract nearby infected, so they too have a use.The crowbar's only strength seems to be the ability to kill isolated infected at great personal risk--a task which can be performed faster, more easily and with much less risk with the hatchet. Also, in addition to being a useful tool as well as a weapon, hatchets spawn more frequently. Edited July 23, 2012 by Donaghue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChinWooMan 34 Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Tin Cans are used to distract zombies. The noise attracts them ;) Yes I use them. Edited July 23, 2012 by ChinWooMan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MinxinG 50 Posted July 23, 2012 Tin Cans are used to distract zombies. The noise attracts them ;) Yes I use them.I dont think that is true, I throw a lot of tin cans in about 20 meters away from the zombies and they do not distract Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bash Arkin 266 Posted July 23, 2012 Perhaps make the hatch do the same amount of damage? I think thats a better idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thatcommiekid 57 Posted July 23, 2012 as long as hit detection is changed im happy. "If you can hit it. You can kill it." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schockie 16 Posted July 23, 2012 support a crowbar should hit more a axe on a zombie is critical hit on a zombie with a crowbar is like 6 times get it to 2 times or 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Womb Raider 92 Posted July 23, 2012 Yeah, lets complain about things that were never meant to be in the game in the first place, but thanks to good modding they did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfstriked 143 Posted July 23, 2012 Crowbar should remain in game so that they can be a required tool to fix flat tires.Also maybe t be e=able to break locks and such things. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thatcommiekid 57 Posted July 23, 2012 Crowbar should remain in game so that they can be a required tool to fix flat tires.Also maybe t be e=able to break locks and such things.I agree its a needed tool/ back up weapon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Draco122 412 Posted July 23, 2012 Crowbar should remain in game so that they can be a required tool to fix flat tires.Also maybe t be e=able to break locks and such things.Also agree with this, best option is to leave it in and hope that another reason for its use comes up. It should be similar to the Hatchet in that it does have alternate use besides being a clubbing weapon. Perhaps Crates or containers that can be wedged open with a crowbar or used on locked vehicles to gain forced entry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samirocks123 47 Posted July 23, 2012 More weapons the better, i think they should simply increase the damage done per hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donaghue 3 Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Yeah, lets complain about things that were never meant to be in the game in the first place, but thanks to good modding they did.This is the suggestion thread. I'm making a suggestion.To all other suggestions, I would agree with most. As things stand, the crowbar is next to useless, but if it had a clear purpose and was actually good for it, huzzah. Mission accomplished. Edited July 23, 2012 by Donaghue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weld 26 Posted July 23, 2012 I recommend the crowbar be reverted to the earlier hatchet damage which sent zombies flying all over the place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites