A proposal to fellow medics

[trimethylxanthine 12]

First of, this is an idea to a project thats been brewing for some time and if the general interest is good we hope to be able to start working on it.

Right, together with my former patient and now trusted companion Fraggle; we are working on setting up a few camps across the map on our home server containing various medical supplies and some camps containing basic starting gear for those unlucky enough to get slaughtered on their way to a waiting patient.

Our idea is to stack up on the regular medical supplies, basic gear like handguns with a few clips and some survival gear. Stash it in select locations both along the coast and further in on the map so that any medic interested can stop by and refill their stores or get a boost on their way back after dying.

Obviously this project might take some time depending on the availability of tents and how quickly we manage to stock up on everything.

So, who will be informed of the locations (apart from anyone who comes across it and decides to raid it)?

- Whitelisted Medics and Trusted Medics of the Wasteland

- Anyone trusted by said medics

That being said, the camps aren't limited to just medics needing to refill their stores, anyone able to fulfill the above criteria would be more than welcome to grab whatever they need to ensure they'll survive the first 20 minutes after washing up on the shore.

As you've guessed by now, this will have to be based on the assumption that not everyone is a giant bastard that'll take everything and run. So I'm well aware that some sites might be completely ravaged by the time someone gets to it.

And before you scream bandit.. please don't.

I would not propose a project like this just to have a tool to trick people.

Any ideas, comments, questions or suggestions would be more than welcome.

(Now lets hope this won't be lost in the flood of topics)

- trimethylxanthine

[Hakultair 114]

As you've guessed by now, this will have to be based on the assumption that not everyone is a giant bastard that'll take everything and run. So I'm well aware that some sites might be completely ravaged by the time someone gets to it.

Not sure that'd a fair assumption to make, but yea, there are a few groups like this around already. I like the idea of it, but putting it into practise will be a lot harder.

[trimethylxanthine 12]

Might not be a fair assumption, but in any event once you put up a camp you have to make a few calculated risks.

- Is it well enough hidden?

- Can I risk loosing whats in the tents?

- Will I be away for long periods of time leaving it open to others?

- Should someone come across it, will they take everything and smash the tents or take some and leave what they can't carry or don't need?

Personally I see it worth the risk and the effort (even if it ends up being temporary) if it ends up helping others.

Chances are I will get shot and looted quite a few times as we're attempting to start this project.

[CookieJar 19]

Sure it's hard, but eventually it'll come up. The main problem is that all these groups aiming to help others are acting seperately, and that most people lack experience in how to set up something like that. And there's the problem to find enough trustworthy people, of course. You'll just have to keep trying and evolving. Also, the planned updates like housing will make it easier to organize a whole lot, I believe.

I like the idea, also would like to join that, but I don't got the necessary references yet... Anyway, how much time do you think you gonna need for setting it up on a server that it's basically working? Based on what resources you have so far. And I guess you won't name the server before that, right?

[trimethylxanthine 12]

Server and the various locations will be kept between me, Fraggle and those will be working with us.

How long will this take?

As of now we have a decent stockpile worth of guns, survival equipment, medical suplies and a few vehicles to help us cross large distances quickly.

I'm hoping to be able to have the second camp ready fairly soon, ie. tonight/tomorrow morning (We are on european servers).

As of now we are working out of our base camp, that sadly had to be rebuilt since our other server was taken down last night and had some major issues with synchronizing actions and loot with the main server resulting in a large loss, but giving us a fresh start.

Seeing how we are a two man team at the moment it might take some time, depending on how soon some of our other companions join us again.

As for working together, the main issue is that most of the people on the list of medics are based in the US and not very many (it seems) are working out of the European servers.

The backbone to this is to give headroom for up and comming medics and those well established making the starting phase as painless as possible and less downtime for those who are short on supplies.

Anyone who can benefit from the arrangement and access the server is welcomed by me.

[Crisco Joe 1]

I sent you a PM with details on our camp if you want to use it or the spot on another server. Also if you need my help, or the help of my team, we have 5 people. 1 Sniper, 3 AK's, and a LMG.

[Survivor-Kyle 148]

I'd like to coordinate your efforts with those of the FreeLoaders, since we have the exact same goals in mind. I sent you a PM so we can arrange things.

[edandrew95 6]

I'd like to be a field medic and help others. Please get in touch. I'll PM you.

[trimethylxanthine 12]

Thanks to everyone who've given me feedback so far.

Here is a basic list of what I believe should be in the depots we establish.

For now I'm thinking the medical equipment will be the most frequently needed supplies.

Priority goods

- Blood bags

- Bandages

- Morphine

Optional, but nice to have

- Antibiotics (if we can find some)

- Epinephrine

I'm calling these optional because they are either hard to come by, like the antibiotics but also not often needed except for emergencies (Epinephrine)

As for the survival gear I'm thinking about keeping it to the basic stuff needed to survive.

- Food

- Water

- Map

- Compass (whenever we find the bloody things...)

- Matches

- Hunting knife

- Handguns & a few clips for each

I wish to limit the amount of weapons stashed in order to avoid the campsites becoming high value targets for would-be bandits and an easy way to start griefing.

Again, any input, suggestions and even a dedicated moment of pointing and manic laughter is welcome.

[Lynx (DayZ) 19]

Great idea, hard to maintain, though.

Believe me, for a medic in this game, there's nothing worse than being shot on the way to a waiting patient, and subsequently having to explain to him that you're back on the beach, with no medical supplies at all, unable to help him. Even though every single patient will tell you they understand the situation and they are glad that someone at least tried to get to them, the feeling of failing a patient still sticks to the medic. And it's unbearable.

Now, having access to a location that enables us to get back in business right away would be priceless, especially for coastal medics, because they might still finish the job they started.

If you plan to elaborate this idea, please don't forget to add binoculars to the generic survival gear. ;)

["Lost" Alice 205]

I support this 100%!

Working on getting whitelisted too

all my patients are too lazy to post T.T

[Schweehog 0]

Hello, I don't have Arma II yet, but I'm getting it VERY soon (tonight/tomorrow night). From what I have seen, there are a lot of bandits and people who back-stab. Because of this I wanted to join a group so I have people I trust to help me and show me around. So even though I wont be much of help at the beginning, I would like to join so I could learn how to play and be with a civilized group of people.

[Enrico (DayZ) 6]

I'd be happy to donate once it's up and running. I've been toying with the idea of being a medic for a while, but being a supplier seems like it might be more in line with my play-style.

Getting enough tents might be hard... I've yet to come across a single one.

[Haruki (DayZ) 0]

Been playing DayZ and forum stalking for about 3 weeks now. My friends don't really play much anymore and lonewolfing it isn't much fun so I'm looking for new things to do so I thought I'd see about some of the survivor groups. The past few day's I've been patrolling the woods around Cherno countersniping people I see camping the treeline with rifles or camping way up on an industrial building (most likely they are bandits) but It feels a little aimless at times. I think this is a great idea and I'd be willing to help out stockpiling gear or checking on tents as it would give me something new to do.

I've been toying with the idea of trying out being a medic but I think I'd prefer being on overwatch. If any medics operating in the more PvPish areas would like some cover I'd be willing to help with that also.

[Enrico (DayZ) 6]

I've been toying with the idea of trying out being a medic

Lol, almost word for word what I said. I guess we both aren't quite the medic type. :P

[Haruki (DayZ) 0]

Aha It would appear that way xD I want to help people, but I don't want to totally give up my guns because I also like taking out bandits.

[trimethylxanthine 12]

Great idea, hard to maintain, though.

Believe me, for a medic in this game, there's nothing worse than being shot on the way to a waiting patient, and subsequently having to explain to him that you're back on the beach, with no medical supplies at all, unable to help him. Even though every single patient will tell you they understand the situation and they are glad that someone at least tried to get to them, the feeling of failing a patient still sticks to the medic. And it's unbearable.

Now, having access to a location that enables us to get back in business right away would be priceless, especially for coastal medics, because they might still finish the job they started.

If you plan to elaborate this idea, please don't forget to add binoculars to the generic survival gear. ;)

This project is as you and a few others have pointed out going to be a pain in the neck to maintain. Depending on how well the camps do we will see what needs to be moved, and what needs to be forgotten altogether.

As you said, nothing is worse than letting a patient down. I've had to let two down so far... I still feel bad about it. One because I didn't get there in time and the other I had to abandon due to real life obligations, I still feel bad about both.

My hope is primarily to get the fresh medics off the coast and back into action quickly (my primary concern) secondly comes camps of basic equipment in regions where people who respawn to get back to electro/cherno won't be traveling much, giving the regular survivor a fighting chance.

Thanks for pointing out the binoculars! I can't believe I forgot about those.

For those of you wanting to become medics:

Look up Dr. Wasteland M.D's thread of handy tips and fat list of patients

http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3910-need-medical-assistance-we-can-help/

Feel free to look me up if you want a friend as you're saving lives (granted you're on the european servers. If I go to the US based servers it will only be to set up camp and log back out.)

Want to help us out?

Got input, see something I've forgotten, want to call me a jackass, got plans of becoming a supplier?

Send me a PM or look me up on steam. Same name and disturbing picture.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970386950

Want to help out more people with supplies?

Look up Survivor-Kyle and the Freeloaders.

http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/user/17279-survivor-kyle/

So far: thanks to everyone who have sendt me PM's, offered to help and given me suggestions. Lots of fun to see so many people interested! :)

For those wondering how this is going:

We hit a massive snag last night. Decided to move basecamp seeing how all the tents where empty (we guessed the server ate it all), untill someone stopped by to pick up the rest.

Should you read this: thanks for making moving camp easier and thank you for the nice trade-in we got for the ATV.

And before I forget, thanks for packing the camp for us! Saved us loads of time! ;)

Now... time to fill the tank and start getting the campsites up!

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

I'd like to echo that. Thanks for saving us at least half an hour by packing our stuff for us and leaving it conveniently parked by the church. We've been thinking of upgrading to a pick-up truck for a while so you really have helped the cause.

Much Love.

Edited July 24, 2012 by Fraggle

[Sandwichx 103]

Sounds like fun. I'd be willing to help run supplies for you if you need it. And in-case you think I'm not trustworthy, I did try to help you out once, Fraggle. Someone else helped you first though. I'm not a real medic, but I have helped, or tried to help, three people who were injured. Two had broken bones and needed morphine, and I happened to have morphine on me. The third guy also had a broken bone as well as major blood loss. I gave him the blood bag I had on me, but I didn't have any morphine. I was about 30 minutes from Berezino, so I told him to wait just outside the town we met in. I ran full sprint to Berezino, and just as I got to the hospital, I noticed there were no zombies and no loot. Next thing I know, everything around is blowing up and I die from a hacker. I felt really bad for the guy, but I noticed that after I died, he had already left. Maybe he didn't trust me to actually come back for him.

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

Thanks Sandwichx. I remember your offer of help and it's still appreciated. It was actually Trimethylxanthine that beat you to it, that's how we met!

We're just setting up at the moment, it's going well (apart from being shot in the back of the head this morning on the way to the hospital). Keep your eye on this thread and we'll be on touch.

Edited July 24, 2012 by Fraggle

[trimethylxanthine 12]

To all of you who wish to help out:

Right, in order to make it all come to fruition eventually Fraggle and me will need to put some trust into other people and expand. But for now we'll try to keep the cards close to our chest and bring the project up on its feet on our own.

I like to claim that I'm a trusting person and unless you give me a bad wibe I welcome just about anyone to join us as things start to kick off. :)

Personally I can "only" work out of EU based servers due to ping. I say "only" because I will most likely end up getting kicked from servers in other parts of the world fairly quickly, but that won't stop me from setting up a camp in a chosen location and disappear again. So anyone who wish to use the sites we find that turn out to be reliable on their server is more than welcome!

Now, at the moment we are working back and forth on a server (to be disclosed soon-ish) setting up guinea pig camps to see how well they manage to survive.

The biggest issue we have outside the very obvious ones (greed, raiding, bigfoot stealing the tent, etc.) is getting tents.

I don't want to beg and I hate asking since it will take time and effort out of other people's spare time but:

If anyone is willing and feel they can spare it, an extra tent would help us a long way and I would be forever grateful!

[Sandwichx 103]

I have been collecting items I can trade at the Freeside Trading Co. I might be able to get like 2-3 tents from it all. I will be happy to donate them to your cause.

[Fraggle (DayZ) 15720]

Thanks. We are now waiting for the pending update (hopefully later today, maybe not). There's an issue with tents not saving and eating all of our equipment. We've already lost two base camps and and our first 2 supply tents so will have to start again when the update fixes the issue.

Thanks again, hopefully we'll get up and running ASAP.

Edited July 25, 2012 by Fraggle

[Element47 2481]

creating redundancy within the supply chain adds resilience to the enterprise. i am glad to see that many concurrent initiatives emerge to help those in need.

my current approach is to deliver med supplies in person to the medic in need, just finished my first run yesterday, from elektro hospital to the sabor area. I would gladly offer to drop supplies into both your depots and Survivor-Kyles network in future, with whom i already been in contact.

Add me on steam

[Solanum 6]

This is an admirable idea and I will be looking forward to being able to contribute. I just started the game so it'll take me a while to get there, but eventually as I learn to get around and where to go for survival gear and more importantly meds, I'll be all in. I WILL be a medic some day even if it kills me! (which it probably will and many many times, but who cares!)