DayZ Standalone confirmed??

[emilgebl 5]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a392296/day-z-going-standalone-in-september-adopting-minecraft-model.html

Anyone got some information about this?

Which Engine did he plan to use? will the standalone be different from arma 2?

[icomrade 201]

can we see more of you avatar please.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

I can't possibly imagine a scenario in which DayZ is not based on the ARMA 3 engine.

They would have to scrap the game and start from scratch otherwise. It would be 6-12 months before they even had a playable again...

[Vanglory 72]

Show me them titties.

[doom4mr 135]

on which game engine will the standalone run on???

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Probably Arma 2 engine, right? But i'm also curious about this, i hope the devs give us some insight about this soon.

[[email protected] 125]

Euphoria or get the fuck out, seriously.

Edit, Yes natural-motion's Euphoria would do wonders for this game, it would be insanely beautifully created and the animations would be better than real life.

Edited July 21, 2012 by Authentic92

[doom4mr 135]

Probably Arma 2 engine, right? But i'm also curious about this, i hope the devs give us some insight about this soon.

No, not that again :( pls

Iam tired of its bugs and glitches and its animation breaks

but Iam almost sure that BIS will not give its RV4 engine, and I think there will be no DayZ for A3

Euphoria or get the fuck out, seriously.

Edit, Yes natural-motion's Euphoria would do wonders for this game, it would be insanely beautifully created and the animations would be better than real life.

GTA IV engine is the best one for this game

Rage Engine.

I dont like the idea to pay for standalone if its runs on A2 engine again

Edited July 21, 2012 by DooM4MR

[FrostDMG 398]

They'd be flipping stupid not to go stand alone :)

Also, this isn't really that new, I mean Rocket has been saying this for a while now so we should have all seen this coming.

The really interesting part is how many players from the Beta will transfer over to the full game!

Also, it's not a question of IF but of WHEN

Edited July 21, 2012 by FrostDMG

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

Everyone just skip my post?

ARMA 3 is due out soon.

rocket has already confirmed that DayZ has been ported successfully to ARMA 3. Why would he even bother if DayZ were not going to ultimately be based on the ARMA 3 engine?

Why would he break ties with BI and ARMA at this point? They have a mutually beneficial relationship.

I think you're confusing the word "stand-alone" with "independent."

All stand-alone means is that the ARMA code will be branched so that rocket and team can start making changes to the base engine code instead of just working exclusively in the mod scripts.

I mean, maybe I'm wrong but it seems to be the most logical and likely scenario.

but Iam almost sure that BIS will not give its RV4 engine, and I think there will be no DayZ for A3

Give? Rocket has moved almost three-quarters of a million ARMA copies. He has made BI probably over $15MM.

They're not giving him anything.

It is in their best interest to maintain a relationship with rocket.

And it is in rocket's best interest so he doesn't have to scrap all the progress they have made in Alpha and start over.

Edited July 21, 2012 by ZedsDeadBaby

[[email protected] 125]

Forums hate me today, not typing my long ass reply, it was a good one not a troll one either.

By the way, can i have a link to where he said it has been ported to Arma 3, because on Facebook he told me Euphoria would be quite awesome

Edited July 21, 2012 by Authentic92

[FrostDMG 398]

@Zed

Yeah, I know what you're saying, but wasn't Rocket making his own version of the engine on which Arma 2 is based on?

At least on Rezzed I remember him saying that the Arma 2 engine was not really suitable anymore for DayZ - regarding adding new features such as underground bases. He however said that the engine on which Arma 2 engine is based (if that makes sense) is much more capable and can be adjusted to any future requirements - for example said underground bases, or "instanced" areas. If this is doable in Arma 3 - which I don't see why it wouldn't be since DayZ proven to be such a huge boost to the company - and I'm sure they're developing the engine in order to accommodate said game - it is then entirely possible, but I would not bet my life on it.

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I heard so many times Rocket saying how awesome the RV engine is. I have no doubt DayZ as standalone will stay either on a modified ArmA 2 or 3 engines.

Edited July 21, 2012 by Fence

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

@Zed

Yeah, I know what you're saying, but wasn't Rocket making his own version of the engine on which Arma 2 is based on?

I don't think so?

In fact what I remember him saying is that if they had to start over and make their own engine it would take them approximately ~20 years to do so successfully.

By the way, can i have a link to where he said it has been ported to Arma 3, because on Facebook he told me Euphoria would be quite awesome

It was here on the forums. Quite possibly lost in the upgrade. You will have to take my word for it. It was a post asking about DayZ and ARMA 3 and rocket responded almost immediately saying, paraphrased "It has already been ported. DayZ is running in ARMA 3."

And saying Euphoria "would be awesome" is a far cry from saying "We're going to be using a new engine for DayZ."

Would, by definition, is purporting the consequence of an imagined event that has not and may not ever take place. Like if you asked him if he was going to fix it so hacking was impossible tomorrow he might say "That would be awesome." That doesn't really say anything about what's actually going to happen. ;)

I'm not claiming to have the definitive facts of the situation here, but scraping ties to ARMA completely has huge implications for DayZ. They would lose a lot of progress made during this Alpha phase, rolling back months of incredibly hard work, and incur a huge up-front cost in licensing fees.

If rocket was planning on licensing or purchasing a new engine for DayZ, don't you think he would be a little more serious about taking in funds at this point? Engine licenses aren't exactly cheap.

And why would they have put time into so many bug fixes and optimization in the Alpha if they were just going to scrap it all and start over?

Maintaining a relationship with BI at this point means maintaining a tie to the tens of millions that DayZ has already generated in "indirect" revenue.

If he leaves now he's basically leaving all of his investment capital in BI's hands, and they aren't just going to generous give him a cut on his way out the door...

Edited July 21, 2012 by ZedsDeadBaby

[FrostDMG 398]

No, not that again :( pls

Iam tired of its bugs and glitches and its animation breaks

but Iam almost sure that BIS will not give its RV4 engine, and I think there will be no DayZ for A3

GTA IV engine is the best one for this game

Rage Engine.

I dont like the idea to pay for standalone if its runs on A2 engine again

I'm sorry but GTA IV engine was a piece of shit.

The vehicle physics were shit, helis were equally bad, the engine was poorly optimised for PCs at first, but all that aside - NO just NO

[emilgebl 5]

can we see more of you avatar please.

Marie McCray.

[StealthyBrayden 6]

I like the sounds of a standalone game :3

Been waiting ages for a standalone game like DayZ to happen... But even on the Arma 3 engine, I think it would be fine :P

[emilgebl 5]

Everyone just skip my post?

ARMA 3 is due out soon.

rocket has already confirmed that DayZ has been ported successfully to ARMA 3. Why would he even bother if DayZ were not going to ultimately be based on the ARMA 3 engine?

Why would he break ties with BI and ARMA at this point? They have a mutually beneficial relationship.

I think you're confusing the word "stand-alone" with "independent."

All stand-alone means is that the ARMA code will be branched so that rocket and team can start making changes to the base engine code instead of just working exclusively in the mod scripts.

I mean, maybe I'm wrong but it seems to be the most logical and likely scenario.

Give? Rocket has moved almost three-quarters of a million ARMA copies. He has made BI probably over $15MM.

They're not giving him anything.

It is in their best interest to maintain a relationship with rocket.

And it is in rocket's best interest so he doesn't have to scrap all the progress they have made in Alpha and start over.

It's going to be out in what? 1 and a half year.. it's not soon.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

It's going to be out in what? 1 and a half year.. it's not soon.

That is a hell of a lot sooner than DayZ could ever hope to see the light of day if they broke away from BI now and started from scratch in a new engine.

A completely speculative but entirely plausible scenario would be that when ARMA 3 hits Beta and is feature complete, the code base will be branched and the DayZ team will assume control of their own copy of the source code (though any bugs fixed in the final phase of Beta by the ARMA 3 team would I'm sure be shared with the DayZ team).

With a final 3-6 month "crunch time" push by the DayZ team it's not completely wild to predict that DayZ could launch near or shortly after the launch of ARMA 3.

And both would benefit from the hype generated by the other...

There are so many reasons why this relationship benefits both BI and rocket, I just can't fathom why they would break ties at this point.

Edited July 21, 2012 by ZedsDeadBaby

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Hmm, a stand-alone version would probably be a total re-write of code anyway, well im sure some would be saved. Also im aware that saying it would be awesome is not "YEHA LETS GO EUPHORIA" but it's better than "Fuck you im staying with Arma Engine"

Also, Rage engine is not terrible and i was not speaking about rage i was speaking about Euphoria for character animation.

also, none of us know what rocket is planning, Rocket could make this game on a different engine and just let Bohemia supply the game, they will not tell him he can't do it, that would be retarded and cost them huge sums of money, equally they are probably very inclined to support him in his own development studio where he can focus solely on dayz and run it on whatever engine he wants.

"Quagmire" And we are the morons, really?

Edited July 21, 2012 by Authentic92

[doom4mr 135]

Give? Rocket has moved almost three-quarters of a million ARMA copies. He has made BI probably over $15MM.

They're not giving him anything.

It is in their best interest to maintain a relationship with rocket.

And it is in rocket's best interest so he doesn't have to scrap all the progress they have made in Alpha and start over.

BIS working on Arma 3 they creating content for it, test if its interesting and playable, they creating single player campaign etc,

if DayZ released as mod for A3 no one will play A3 they will use it to play DayZ instead, same thing happened with A2, if I want to play military simulator I cant, there is just no servers for this, every one play DayZ.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

equally they are probably very inclined to support him in his own development studio where he can focus solely on dayz and run it on whatever engine he wants.

What? Why?

I don't understand this statement at all.

If rocket leaves the ARMA engine why would BI care to support him in anything he does?

If anything they would probably be pretty pissed that he built his empire on the back of their engine and then left them behind...

Hmm, a stand-alone version would probably be a total re-write of code anyway, well im sure some would be saved.

I don't think anything in DayZ can be "saved" if they leave the ARMA engine. Possibly the motion-capture work rocket did, but otherwise he loses everything I think. It's all written in proprietary script language that only the ARMA engine understands. There is no real "code" to DayZ, only ARMA scripts.

If they broke away, they are starting over...

if DayZ released as mod for A3 no one will play A3

I'm not suggesting it will be released as a mod.

That defeats the entire purpose of being stand-alone...

I'm suggesting the ARMA 3 code base will be branched, rocket and the DayZ team will get their own copy which they will then turn into DayZ and released separately from ARMA 3.

Edited July 21, 2012 by ZedsDeadBaby

[Chimaera 68]

God give the man a chance guys ...

At the end of the day we are data makers every little bit we do is logged in the hive and then gives the devs masses of data to make the best decisions as they see it in the direction of the game.

They will then use this data and finally bring us a full game for all to enjoy, and the data will bring us the full game ... in time.

Good points

Rocket shares the view we should make the gameplay , he makes the tools

Arma 3 will be the engine, he would be stupid not to. BI would be mental to not assist rocket to make the full game it would cost them millions.

He has/is already working on the 3 engine with BI before he got started with DayZ so he knows whats under the hood so to speak

My guess - BI will split the path of Arma 3 to allow full blown DayZ and the projects will run side by side.

This way DayZ will continue to evolve as it goes as the engines develop

Bad Points

We have to be patient

And

Did i mention we have to be patient

Its amazing and tragic how this game affects people and the anger and mass posts when something changes, i would do the same change stuff just to gauge the reaction and how intense people take the change.

I would say keep changing stuff rocket until you find the right combo that will make this game as great as i hope it will be one day.

But the bit that most forget?

Its not a game.... Yet

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Marie McCray.

Thanks! A google for that quickly made my afternoon a lot more fun.

[dreman04 18]

I think I side with Zed on this one even though everything at this point is speculation. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but the fact that the mods have deemed worthy to pin a thread called "ArmA 3 (and DayZ)" probably hints that it's going in that direction. Who knows for sure though.