Eliminate the Bandit/PK'r Advantage

[kovalhuk 19]

Punishing someone for playing a certain way is not the way to go

Read my signature and improve your play. Good luck! :)

+1

Where is stated that you have to be the good guy? If you want to be, you are free.

But i feel lack of a system where the people can group, like a friend system. Or a clan system.

[RayBen 2]

kk, im gonna make 100000 fake accounts and report you as bandit all day long trololol

[Marten (DayZ) 2]

So how does this benefit anyone? Even I read and learn all those names on the list and then? I don't see the names over heads? And if I kill al lot of people I'm on that list. Yeah so what?

It doens't change the game in any way.

And it makes no sense if u get shoot in the wild u are dead, so u can't tell everyone who has killed u.

Although shoot on sight is a prob, punishments systems are crap!!!!(See the one zillion threads about those)

Edited July 19, 2012 by Marten

[KrystoferRobin 67]

Your so full of shit. You(or the people you defend) have no qualms about saying to someone. "Hey if you play passively then you get what you deserve". That is YOU deciding to punish someone for their play style....so fuck off with your fail logic hypocrite bullshit. And my suggestion was not for a place to come and whine about being killed. But maybe you're in like sixth grade and don't have alot of experience with reading comprehension. (Or maybe you're a complete fucking retard :)) Either way. Im not asking for a tool to fix "getting killed" shithead. I'm asking for a tool that will possibly discourage folks from working in teams to camp an area indiscriminately killing every soul they see just for shits and giggles. That's my request OK ALL YOU FUCKING MURDOCH DOUCHBAGS. Not for someone to save me from getting killed. Get it through your thick fucking malformed skulls. You see the problem is...When your arguments are not based in logic, and you just keep talking, eventually you have nothing to stand upon and you fall. So all you imbeciles who accuse me of being a pussy who wants rocket to hold my hand KEEP TALKING. I will take each one of you apart piece by piece and expose you for the fucking idiots you are, Have a nice life

You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

[evolution (DayZ) 51]

Your so full of shit. You(or the people you defend) have no qualms about saying to someone. "Hey if you play passively then you get what you deserve". That is YOU deciding to punish someone for their play style....so fuck off with your fail logic hypocrite bullshit. And my suggestion was not for a place to come and whine about being killed. But maybe you're in like sixth grade and don't have alot of experience with reading comprehension. (Or maybe you're a complete fucking retard :)) Either way. Im not asking for a tool to fix "getting killed" shithead. I'm asking for a tool that will possibly discourage folks from working in teams to camp an area indiscriminately killing every soul they see just for shits and giggles. That's my request OK ALL YOU FUCKING MURDOCH DOUCHBAGS. Not for someone to save me from getting killed. Get it through your thick fucking malformed skulls. You see the problem is...When your arguments are not based in logic, and you just keep talking, eventually you have nothing to stand upon and you fall. So all you imbeciles who accuse me of being a pussy who wants rocket to hold my hand KEEP TALKING. I will take each one of you apart piece by piece and expose you for the fucking idiots you are, Have a nice life

You seem mad...

Anyway, I really don't think this will solve much. I mean if you saw a bandit (lets say with your suggestion, the bandit skin is brought back) he is still going to kill you. And you are either going to avoid-or attack (which is the same as what you'd be doing now with a player you saw in DayZ. I get the idea, but identifying a bandit, I think, isn't going to solve the problem and frankly I don't think anything will solve the PvP in the game.

-Shoot on sight or be killed is pretty much the motto now. Deal with it and shoot back.

[hawc 63]

Why people Thinks That the bandit have an advantage? If you shoot his face he will die like you. Dude, there are weapons in the dayz with a purpose and not make you looks like cool. Shoot the bastards!

exactly, what advantage. I asked op what he means and he just wrote a definition of the word advantage. I suspect op is 12 years old or or his mental level is.

[fish911503 136]

I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. You expect this community to make just and fair decisions over people's appeals? I don't know if you've noticed, but the community isn't exactly used to being nice to each other.

Aside from the fact that if you make an appeal and then bust out the language you're using on people trying to express their opinions, your appeal will probably be rejected.

I noticed that you have a message saying "Are you capable of having an intelligent discussion?"

If you perceive calling everyone retards and assholes as an intelligent discussion, your parents raised you wrong.

I don't mean to offend, I'm just pointing out some flaws in your reasoning.

i think people would be fair about appeals.

Obviously not every one rags like I do....but I can see how you think they would (NOT).

Yes that is in my profile...I say nowhere though that every discussion needs to be intelligent

If you come at me with intelligence and thoughtfulness I will reciprocate.

If you came at me with insults and imbecilic logic I will insult you back and call you an imbecile.

I didn't call "every one retards" I asked those people who seemingly have comprehension problems

If they were retarded. Honest question.

I didn't call "every one assholes" I call people assholes when they are both moronic and insulting,

It saves me time.

So at the very least I can accuse you "distorting the facts" The reason you distorted them?

Edited July 19, 2012 by playZ

[fish911503 136]

So how does this benefit anyone? Even I read and learn all those names on the list and then? I don't see the names over heads? And if I kill al lot of people I'm on that list. Yeah so what?

It doens't change the game in any way.

And it makes no sense if u get shoot in the wild u are dead, so u can't tell everyone who has killed u.

Although shoot on sight is a prob, punishments systems are crap!!!!(See the one zillion threads about those)

Kudos to you for reading my original post. As I stated, under this system i will personally send a "memory coach" to you're

home to help "memorize" the list of names. And the "nameplate issue" I solved by clearly stating the nameplates would be

In big pink flashing letters. Read a little more carefully next time. IDIOT!!!!!!. next.

[fish911503 136]

You seem mad...

Anyway, I really don't think this will solve much. I mean if you saw a bandit (lets say with your suggestion, the bandit skin is brought back) he is still going to kill you. And you are either going to avoid-or attack (which is the same as what you'd be doing now with a player you saw in DayZ. I get the idea, but identifying a bandit, I think, isn't going to solve the problem and frankly I don't think anything will solve the PvP in the game.

-Shoot on sight or be killed is pretty much the motto now. Deal with it and shoot back.

Good points. It works in basically 2 situations, if i come face to face I have a couple of extra nanoseconds to make a decision as what to do. And if I'm casing an area and see hostiles. Remember it would be pretty difficult to get this tag. I said in OP

A person would have to murder ALOT (50 or 100?)of people within a 48 hour time period.

I thought it might be an iteresting idea because it requires almost no new game code at all. Only a little website dev.

[urspider2018@gmail.com 109]

Reading playZ's comments later on in this thread I'm not sure if he was ever serious or this is all one huge troll. But, to my statement.

YOU CAN ALREADY DO THIS !!!!!!!!!

If you can manage to catch the name of your killer before you die, you know what you can do? Hop on down to the Survivor HQ subforum (I can send you a link if you want) and post a thread or something talking about how this guy is a bandit. Hell, there's probably already 50 million databases in there! There's no reason to take time from fixing actual problems in the game to do something that can already be done.

So you can stop bad-mouthing these other forum-members and (rather hypocritcally) calling them idiots, because your suggestion is already done.

[fish911503 136]

exactly, what advantage. I asked op what he means and he just wrote a definition of the word advantage. I suspect op is 12 years old or or his mental level is.

You are a liar HAWK. The definition of advantage is NOT all i responded to you with. But this is how weak minded individuals debate, They lie, distort facts and hyperbolize...because they have no logical ground to stand on OR because they have trouble comprehending what they read, in which case they should refrain from commenting on others text. Edited July 19, 2012 by playZ

[fish911503 136]

Reading playZ's comments later on in this thread I'm not sure if he was ever serious or this is all one huge troll. But, to my statement.

YOU CAN ALREADY DO THIS !!!!!!!!!

If you can manage to catch the name of your killer before you die, you know what you can do? Hop on down to the Survivor HQ subforum (I can send you a link if you want) and post a thread or something talking about how this guy is a bandit. Hell, there's probably already 50 million databases in there! There's no reason to take time from fixing actual problems in the game to do something that can already be done.

So you can stop bad-mouthing these other forum-members and (rather hypocritcally) calling them idiots, because your suggestion is already done.

Really??? I was not aware the game displays the name of the player who kills me....I think you are wrong in that statement or maybe it is a server specific thing. And lets face. alot of them ARE idiots and deserved to be called such. Not for being wrong, but for lying, distorting truths, hyperbolizing or commenting without even having read OP. Edited July 19, 2012 by playZ

[Eza (DayZ) 11]

sounds ridiculous. you´re proposing a list of baddies, like some gnome of santa claus.

there´s so many issues, how do you think to avoid people reporting wrong people, reporting for kill that didnt happen just for the hell of it?

[urspider2018@gmail.com 109]

Well, unless they changed this in one of the more recent updates there are servers with player tags enabled. It's kind of like catching a glimpse of someone's face before they shoot you.

[fish911503 136]

sounds ridiculous. you´re proposing a list of baddies, like some gnome of santa claus.

there´s so many issues, how do you think to avoid people reporting wrong people, reporting for kill that didnt happen just for the hell of it?

This would have to happen 50 to 100 times in a 48 hour period...if they are that determined, kudos to them

[Rising (DayZ) 99]

Punishing someone for playing a certain way is not the way to go

Read my signature and improve your play. Good luck! :)

This isn't CS.

[fish911503 136]

This isn't CS.

Thanks for the insight

[fish911503 136]

Well, unless they changed this in one of the more recent updates there are servers with player tags enabled. It's kind of like catching a glimpse of someone's face before they shoot you.

sort of, only different.

[urspider2018@gmail.com 109]

Well, it's the best you're gonna get, because Rocket has said time and time again that he refuses to institute game mechanics that punishes bandits or survivors. Any kind of punishment is going to have to come from the players, not from the game.

[fish911503 136]

Just for the record....I never in any post called anyone an idiot or asshole for thinking I was wrong or it was a bad idea. I did when either they insulted me for simply making a suggestion they thought was bad, or for lying, distorting truths, hyperbolizing or commenting without even having read OP. How you engage me is how I engage you...both in game and out. Don't cry because you fired a bb gun at me and I fired a cannon back.

Edited July 19, 2012 by playZ

[fish911503 136]

Well, it's the best you're gonna get, because Rocket has said time and time again that he refuses to institute game mechanics that punishes bandits or survivors. Any kind of punishment is going to have to come from the players, not from the game.

That's what i was trying for here....obviously i fell short in many's opinion Edited July 19, 2012 by playZ

[urspider2018@gmail.com 109]

Kudos to you for reading my original post. As I stated, under this system i will personally send a "memory coach" to you're

home to help "memorize" the list of names. And the "nameplate issue" I solved by clearly stating the nameplates would be

In big pink flashing letters. Read a little more carefully next time. IDIOT!!!!!!. next.

Just for the record....I never in any post called anyone an idiot or asshole for thinking I was wrong or it was a bad idea. I did when either they insulted me for simply making a suggestion they thought was bad, or for lying, distorting truths, hyperbolizing or commenting without even having read OP. How you engage me is how I engage you...both in game and out.

Marten didn't insult you and you called him an idiot.

Edited July 19, 2012 by AdmiralGreene

[adamhodsdon399@hotmail.com 9]

I agree with a previous post on here saying that it would create a goal for bandits to kill the most players and be the top of the leaderboard. However, it would be nice to at least know the name of the person that killed you, if you know what i mean.

[fish911503 136]

Marten didn't insult you and you called him an idiot.

Because he did not read my OP. If he had he would have never made those remarks. Unless he's ummmm......

[urspider2018@gmail.com 109]

Example:

I am killed by another player...I'm prompted on screen...."you were killed by xyz".

Now if I choose to I can go to website and "report" the murder.

Once a murderer gets a certain number of reported murders (negotiable) they are from then on "Identified" in some way as a murderer in game.

This is not the dev's or the game punishing you for how you play it is the community.

This player "rap sheet" could reset itself every 48 hours or so, so a player would have to commit a high number of murders within a short time to be flagged. But once you are flagged it sticks.

You are allowed an appeal (To the community, not the dev's)

I don't see this as putting a bandit at a disadvantage. I see it as removing a bandits advantage.

Its a tool. Just as a sniper rifle is a tool with which you can kill an unarmed, non-aggressive player

from 400 meters (or whatever). This is a tool with which the community, if it so chooses, can punish unethical behavior.

I do not see how this conflicts with the goal of the game....provide the tools and let the players create the world

I do not see how this threatens pvp. It simply balances it

And it fits perfectly with the developers plans to incorporate the website into game play.

I'm open

All I see is the you were killed by xyz

Which wasn't the entirety of his issues.

And is also entirely ridiculous, and destroys the concept of permadeath

Edited July 19, 2012 by AdmiralGreene