Gunsmithing?

[Quaby 93]

Maybe adding a system for making your own guns would add a nice little goal in the game. Make, say, a cool special ops gun only obtainable by making it with parts, and finding the parts requires visits to gunsmithing stores(new loot spot, spawns parts and low level guns?), as well as the two military bases. That way, after all your hard work, you get a cool-ass gun to romp around with and advertise your badassery ;). It would add something else to the endgame, another goal besides NVGs and snipers.

ALSO-ammo for these guns would still be scavenged, not made.

Some examples....

M60

Maybe a tripod-mounted M2 BMG for camp defense?

G3A4-the A4 has the collapsible stock, looking quite awesome ;)

M14-basically would be a full-auto enfield with 20 rounds. Could share mags w/ DMR

AK-47-it's a classic. Why it isn't in this game, I don't know.

UMP-45-gotta add a cool SMG. Sorry if this makes me look like a COD enthusiast, I just couldn't think of a better one at 8a.m. ;)

AND FINALLY........

.44 Magnum Revolver-Go dirty harry on those zombies

[zzSTABBYzz 9]

why not akimbo model 1887's or an intervention for those quickscoping times

[UndeadAssassin 23]

there's already an m14 it just has a crap 1x scope.

and i want the AS VAL and the Vintorez in the game i miss them :(

[gosgosgosu@hotmail.com 7]

AK-47-it's a classic. Why it isn't in this game, I don't know.

.... What do you think the AKM is?

Besides, militaries don't use AK47s.... that gun is outdated as hell.

[Frozen (DayZ) 144]

it would be interesting to make crafting the only source of military "end game" weapons.

find parts, and assembly it using toolbox(finally some use for it), but you have a chance to break them, if you dont have a proper manual.

[Quaby 93]

.... What do you think the AKM is?

Besides, militaries don't use AK47s.... that gun is outdated as hell.

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Um....try every country in Africa, all the 'stans, and almost every other soviet satellite state ;)

[Quaby 93]

it would be interesting to make crafting the only source of military "end game" weapons.

find parts, and assembly it using toolbox(finally some use for it), but you have a chance to break them, if you dont have a proper manual.

That would be cool. Make manuals common in military posts so the process would be like...

1. Go to gunsmithing store and get parts

2. Go to airfield/stary to get manuals

3. Go back to gunsmithing store to make the gun

BOOM G3A4 BEETCHES

[Warhog (DayZ) 26]

Someone ever played the game S.T.A.L.K.E.R.?

In this game you can mount scopes and Suppressors or even grenade launchers on it, if its compatible with the mounting rail of the gun.

But you have to find those Scopes/Sight/GL or suppressors ofc.

And the idea from Quaby is pretty good, you can have my can of beans :lol:

One gun that is missing in this game would be a mosin nagant, that could be possibly found in civillian or farm residences ^^

Edited July 16, 2012 by Warhog

[MediEval 7]

I kinda like this idea. Having to find gun parts to have to put them together. Especially the higher tier guns. Would be cool to implement a gun cleaning kit as well. Having weapons degrade and have to clean them out every so often otherwise they could jam.

I've always been a proponent of having the high tier weapons be much more rare. Having to find parts for them to assemble would help with this. I would also like to see that if you kill someone with one of these weapons, that it becomes broken, and needs to be fixed before you can use it.

[leestandin@live.com 21]

I love the idea of guns jamming through lack of maintenance

[0only1 4]

IMO there should be attachments for the guns but that's it stick with what we got already find attachments and use them. That's a cool not groundbreaking idea.

[Bukethead 96]

Bump on this instead of starting a new topic.

In addition to repairing/building conventional weapons, I'd like to see a system implemented where you can use scrap metal and create homemade zip gun style firearms.

Such an example would be these:

http://englishrussia.com/2007/06/04/chechen-self-made-weapons/

[ravenger 10]

+1

[Duckman404 37]

Maybe adding a system for making your own guns would add a nice little goal in the game. Make, say, a cool special ops gun only obtainable by making it with parts, and finding the parts requires visits to gunsmithing stores(new loot spot, spawns parts and low level guns?), as well as the two military bases. That way, after all your hard work, you get a cool-ass gun to romp around with and advertise your badassery ;). It would add something else to the endgame, another goal besides NVGs and snipers.

ALSO-ammo for these guns would still be scavenged, not made.

Some examples....

M60

Maybe a tripod-mounted M2 BMG for camp defense?

G3A4-the A4 has the collapsible stock, looking quite awesome ;)

M14-basically would be a full-auto enfield with 20 rounds. Could share mags w/ DMR

AK-47-it's a classic. Why it isn't in this game, I don't know.

UMP-45-gotta add a cool SMG. Sorry if this makes me look like a COD enthusiast, I just couldn't think of a better one at 8a.m. ;)

AND FINALLY........

.44 Magnum Revolver-Go dirty harry on those zombies

AK-47 is in this game. It's called an AKM. That is, in fact, what most AK-47s are. AKMs. It's the AK-47 made using more efficient manufacturing techniques, and the AKM is most commonly confused with the AK-47 (which is actually quite rare) and the Type 56 (which is popular among countries who's arsenals are supplied by the Chinese).

The rest of your post pretty much reeks of COD enthusiast, which is not a good thing: a good number of the weapons in COD would be stupidly out of place in Chernarus. Hell, a lot of the weapons are already out of place, but that's most likely because Rocket can't be assed working on them at the present time. Adding, say, a S&W Model 29 (the 'Dirty Harry' gun) to the game would just be silly, unless it's an extremely rare item with extremely rare ammo (which is what it would be).

I like the idea of being able to build your own weapons, but jesus christ, do any of you know how difficult it is to build a gun from the ground up? Or even from parts kits? You need a proper machine shop with power tools and the like, if you're going to build an LMG out of random scavenged parts.

Keep the military loot to the military camps: I have my own opinions on that matter, mostly that there should be less high end military loot and more medium-tier stuff spread around the map...

Anyway, what I do like is the option to build your own weapons, but Fallout or Metro 2033 style.

The Bastard Gun is a great example of this, since it's awfully inaccurate, not terribly damaging, and looks like it'll fall apart at any time.

Another is the Shishkebab: a god damn flaming sword made from motorbike parts and a lawnmower blade.

Building a very simple 9mm blowback SMG isn't out of the question, if you can find a 9mm barrel (say, scavenged from a pistol), and building suppressors is also quite simple if you know what you're doing.

But being able to put together an M60 from parts is, to me, just a bit out-there.

Modifying an M14 AIM to fire in full auto only, that's more reasonable.

Adding attachments to weapons, or making improvised attachments, would also be quite reasonable.

Making, say, a 9mm zip gun would be kind of pointless at the moment, since pistols are so common anyway. Hell, guns in general are too common, especially the US military ones. There ought to be more of the UN and European style guns lying around, such as the PKM instead of the Mk 48, or the G3 and FN FAL instead of the M14. And that's coming from a gun nut!

Edited July 21, 2012 by Duckman404

[Lou_Drew 10]

.... What do you think the AKM is?

Besides, militaries don't use AK47s.... that gun is outdated as hell.

Doesn't matter if it's outdated. Militaries don't use the Winchester or crossbows (inb4 BlackOps) either, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be in the game.

It's the most popular assault rifle ever made. They're EVERYWHERE.

Edited July 21, 2012 by Lou_Drew

[Wiesn69 4]

Introducing a simple "Perk" system would be interesting. I can Image some kind of "coocking" for making longlasting food/drink or "guncrafting" where ya can loot special items in order to build uniques like a silenced sniper or a powerfull melee weapon for example.

But to be honest i dont think that is or will become possible xD

[Duckman404 37]

Doesn't matter if it's outdated. Militaries don't use the Winchester or crossbows (inb4 BlackOps) either, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be in the game.

It's the most popular assault rifle ever made. They're EVERYWHERE.

I don't think you understand.

The AKM is the one that was produced and sold everywhere. It's what almost everyone confuses the AK-47 with. If you see an "AK-47" in any real-world photograph or movie, then it's likely either an AKM or a Type 56.

[Bukethead 96]

I don't think you understand.

The AKM is the one that was produced and sold everywhere. It's what almost everyone confuses the AK-47 with. If you see an "AK-47" in any real-world photograph or movie, then it's likely either an AKM or a Type 56.

You should be a little bit more specific about what you mean there. The AK-47 is the first version of the AK and was extremely expensive to produce due to the fact that it had a milled receiver, which for those of you who don't know is basically a large bar stock piece of steel that is cut into the shape it needs to be, as opposed to the AKM which is made out of stamped thick gauge sheet metal and is essentially bent into shape.

The AK-47 was expensive to produce for that reason due to the sheer amount of wasted material created when milling that would have to be melted down and reprocessed, so the AKM was introduced to cut costs, which did not effect the weapon's durability and reliability.

Edited July 21, 2012 by Bukethead

[stielhandgranate 480]

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Um....try every country in Africa, all the 'stans, and almost every other soviet satellite state ;)

You are wrong. They use AKMs or Chinese look alikes.

That would be cool. Make manuals common in military posts so the process would be like...

1. Go to gunsmithing store and get parts

2. Go to airfield/stary to get manuals

3. Go back to gunsmithing store to make the gun

BOOM G3A4 BEETCHES

It takes more than that to mill a gun. Barrels for example, require rifling. Not to mention weapon head spacing. Also gunsmithing is an involved trade. You don't acquire the skill to build a M2 from scratch by reading a book. Fuck, there are dedicated schools in the military to teach people how to shoot it that take over 10 days in training. And thats just to shoot and assemble the thing with pre fabricated parts. Also it is fucking laughable that you think you could make a G3 in a Eastern bloc gunshop, with no power and no milling device and with a person who is supposed to be an average joe. G3s were made by H&K in Germany. A Eastern European gunsmith shop would have a hard enough time milling a AR-15 receiver, let alone a German battle rifle receiver, barrel and injection molded plastic furniture that was never widely manufactured outside of one country.

Also the M60's successor is in the game already, its called the M240B/ FN MAG. The M60 has been largely phased out in favor for the M240/FN MAG.

[Duckman404 37]

You should be a little bit more specific about what you mean there. The AK-47 is the first version of the AK and was extremely expensive to produce due to the fact that it had a milled receiver, which for those of you who don't know is basically a large bar stock piece of steel that is cut into the shape it needs to be, as opposed to the AKM which is made out of stamped thick gauge sheet metal and is essentially bent into shape.

The AK-47 was expensive to produce for that reason due to the sheer amount of wasted material created when milling that would have to be melted down and reprocessed, so the AKM was introduced to cut costs, which did not effect the weapon's durability and reliability.

Yes, I know, that's exactly what I'm saying. There's a couple of guys in this thread who don't know the difference between the AKM and the AK-47, and think that the AK-47 is the super common one that every third world and soviet country uses. I was attempting to correct that mistake. A little bit of googling would show up what the differences are, but that's up to everyone else's discretion.

[Frozen (DayZ) 144]

...there are dedicated schools in the military to teach people how to shoot it that take over 10 days in training. And thats just to shoot and assemble the thing with pre fabricated parts...

i guess assembling guns from prefabricated parts, was meant in the beginning of the thread. creating guns from the scratch would be to complicated to implement.

[Quaby 93]

I love the idea of guns jamming through lack of maintenance

Not a part of this thread, wtf?

[Quaby 93]

You are wrong. They use AKMs or Chinese look alikes.

It takes more than that to mill a gun. Barrels for example, require rifling. Not to mention weapon head spacing. Also gunsmithing is an involved trade. You don't acquire the skill to build a M2 from scratch by reading a book. Fuck, there are dedicated schools in the military to teach people how to shoot it that take over 10 days in training. And thats just to shoot and assemble the thing with pre fabricated parts. Also it is fucking laughable that you think you could make a G3 in a Eastern bloc gunshop, with no power and no milling device and with a person who is supposed to be an average joe. G3s were made by H&K in Germany. A Eastern European gunsmith shop would have a hard enough time milling a AR-15 receiver, let alone a German battle rifle receiver, barrel and injection molded plastic furniture that was never widely manufactured outside of one country.

Also the M60's successor is in the game already, its called the M240B/ FN MAG. The M60 has been largely phased out in favor for the M240/FN MAG.

Doesn't need to be 100% realistic. It takes longer to cook meat IRL than in this game, so what? It would be cool and fun and would add a goal to the endgame, so so what if it isn't realistic?