Jehangir 52 Posted July 16, 2012 Firing modes for the machine guns are still wrong, even after the list was updated.Perhaps if you could pinpoint the fault? Looks accurate to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sticker704 121 Posted July 16, 2012 I flinched at the Enfield's audible range :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jehangir 52 Posted July 16, 2012 I flinched at the Enfield's audible range :PIt is loud as fuck! The only guns actually louder and the AS50 and the M107. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Techercizer 82 Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Perhaps if you could pinpoint the fault? Looks accurate to me.Right, I got that, but you list all the machine guns as "S, FA". If you look back at Day Z DB, you will see this is not the case; they all have only one firing mode: FA. Also, Semi is short for semi-automatic, meaning the rifle chambers the next round as part of the firing, but only fires one shot per trigger pull. This is different from burst fire, which involves firing a burst of rounds with each trigger pull, and is actually closer to what you call "Single".I've handled a MK 48 and currently have a M249, and I've never seen any firing mode but auto on either of them.Once more: you have some machine guns listed as having S (aka single or semi) and FA (full auto) modes. This is wrong. Machine guns do not have a semi-automatic mode. Nor are they listed as having them. Edited July 16, 2012 by Techercizer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFK 102 Posted July 16, 2012 My beans. You must have them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powell (DayZ) 734 Posted July 16, 2012 No wonder the damn crowbar was so weak, shit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teih 36 Posted July 16, 2012 Thanks for taking the time to make this! Highly appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jehangir 52 Posted July 16, 2012 Once more: you have some machine guns listed as having S (aka single or semi) and FA (full auto) modes. This is wrong. Machine guns do not have a semi-automatic mode. Nor are they listed as having them.Three things.First, Point # 5 at the bottom of the chart explicitly states: "S=Single, B=Burst (or what you call semi), and FA=Full Auto". S does not equal Semi. If you cared to read the whole thing, it would be evident.Second,The Mk 48 Mod 0 is listed as FA, as in Full Auto. I don't know why you provided the link for that. Once again, maybe you didn't read the chart correctly.Third, The M240 and M249 SAW are listed as S and FA (Single and Full Auto). The links you provide are one source of information. Again, if you cared to read Point #1, you would know I use two additional sources, DayZWiki and a Reddit thread. The DayZWiki lists their firing modes as "unknown". However, the Reddit thread lists both Single and Full-Auto modes. It has also been confirmed to me in-game that you can fire both weapons in single, carefully controlled shots.So again, please point out to me how this information is "wrong". Unless you want to admit that you are trolling a helpful topic for no other reason than the fact that you have nothing better to do?:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Techercizer 82 Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) I am holding an M249 right now. I'm cycling through all my throwables, and there is no "single" firing mode.Furthermore, while I don't expect you to know that semi-automatic firing is the same as a single firing mode (minus the potential question of whether the next round chambers automatically), I do expect you to hear it after I say it twice.Blow me off if you want, but what I'm saying is true. Edited July 16, 2012 by Techercizer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lokiz 4 Posted July 17, 2012 geat post Jehangir, thanks for putting this out there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bassist05 69 Posted July 17, 2012 I am holding an M249 right now. I'm cycling through all my throwables, and there is no "single" firing mode.Furthermore, while I don't expect you to know that semi-automatic firing is the same as a single firing mode (minus the potential question of whether the next round chambers automatically), I do expect you to hear it after I say it twice.Blow me off if you want, but what I'm saying is true.You're right. I'm not sure why he is acting like you're full of shit. None of the LMGs have a single fire mode, and being able to tap the trigger and fire one bullet at a time is not the same as having a semi auto mode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n_nussbaum@hotmail.com 9 Posted July 17, 2012 L85A2 is still in game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Techercizer 82 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) You're right. I'm not sure why he is acting like you're full of shit. None of the LMGs have a single fire mode, and being able to tap the trigger and fire one bullet at a time is not the same as having a semi auto mode.I play devil's advocate a lot. Many people say they're open to new information or to being corrected, but for many of them, when they actually get shown that they're wrong, they lash out at others to protect their own egos.There's not always a reason for people's hate. It's often irrational, and if it is, about the only thing you can do is say your piece and walk away. Edited July 17, 2012 by Techercizer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jehangir 52 Posted July 17, 2012 L85A2 is still in game.I will update it if I get more confirmations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jehangir 52 Posted July 17, 2012 I am holding an M249 right now. I'm cycling through all my throwables, and there is no "single" firing mode.Furthermore, while I don't expect you to know that semi-automatic firing is the same as a single firing mode (minus the potential question of whether the next round chambers automatically), I do expect you to hear it after I say it twice.Blow me off if you want, but what I'm saying is true.You are right in that single = semi-auto. I stand corrected, and I apologize.But you did not provide any counter argument for the Reddit thread that lists two modes for the two said weapons. You say you are cycling through and see no additional modes. I will test both weapons in game now, and if that is correct, update the chart.Thanks for the input. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jehangir 52 Posted July 17, 2012 My beans. You must have them.Thanks. Nom nom. BTW your food meter is red.No wonder the damn crowbar was so weak, shitIt is the weakest weapon in the game. Sure the damage matches some sidearms, but you have to practically hug the Zed to apply it.I flinched at the Enfield's audible range :PNever use it, unless it means the difference between life and death! And then get ready for imminent death!Thanks for taking the time to make this! Highly appreciated.Took some time, but I was also tired of having to click a link for each weapon.geat post Jehangir, thanks for putting this out thereYou are most welcome, I am glad it is helping people out!L85A2 is still in game.A clanmate also confirmed this. Will update shortly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nusteh 2 Posted July 21, 2012 I can confirm the L85 to be back in game, picked it up during 1.7.2.3 had it for a few days with no bugs.AS50 has full auto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismgtis 55 Posted July 21, 2012 Enfield may not be correct. I can assure you that it does not do 12,499 dmg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mourek 40 Posted July 21, 2012 I will update it if I get more confirmations.We have just found one at a chopper crash site, it's back in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sixteen18 15 Posted July 21, 2012 Enfield may not be correct. I can assure you that it does not do 12,499 dmg.Three times I died to it say otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michaelvoodoo25 3120 Posted July 21, 2012 Stuff like this makes a community!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P5ykoOHD 63 Posted July 21, 2012 Lee Enfield is so powerful. So retarded.False ...It has it's cons too.And is also a good chance for new players to actually get into PvP against seasoned bandits full of loot.Quit complaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xrinaphobia 10 Posted July 21, 2012 Thank you so much for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
takfar@gmail.com 24 Posted July 21, 2012 Beans!I mean, thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites