vinss 21 Posted July 13, 2012 Seing all the topics repeating, i make this topic for all to see So imho these are top 4 exploits that ruin immersion and should be fixed asap:1. D/cing to avoid death - known and fixable via punishments2. Server hopping/ghosting - ruins persistency - known and fixable3. Third party communication - makes you and your group telepathic - almost impossible to prevent - should use radios and direct comm to be realistic4. Unlimmited ammo (recombining colt/m1911)+ relogging to get full magsAlso for better immersion and realism top suggestions constantly repeated:1. Self labeling as team member/friendly - to have changeble clothes (rocket did mentin this one to be limited by Arma) and having custom logos on your clothes. Also what you wear (black/blue/white) shirt doesnt show properly on your friends game (can be mistaken gor somone else - got shot by friend as i said i have black sleeves and he saw me in blue and fired)2. Can not enter my/any tent to hide from the elements? Why?3. Can not shoot from any vehicle? Why? Possibly Arma limitation4. Give us foundable pen and paper to leave notes on walls/trees/tents - considering third party communication exploit should stop5. Drink water with no waterbottle6. Get attacked by wild (bear, wolf, stray dog pack) and wounded animals (wounded boar is dangerous)7. Construction - i know, Arma engine, and also those structres should be labeled via pen/paper or flag, stating purpouse of structure ( private clan camp, survivor safe heaven, trading post...)Immagine all this... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caviano 287 Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Oh... glad you have a better idea of what needs fixing than the Devs. Thanks man.Also... after actually reading your nonsense... number 3... is retarded... if you think third party voice comms are a problem.. you are unfixable. Edited July 13, 2012 by Caviano 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vinss 21 Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) This is for new posters to not just repeat topics. Adding no. 5 exploit- constant respawning to get to your last gearThird patry comm makes you telepathic ingame. Exploit. Edited July 13, 2012 by vinss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaylo 11 Posted July 13, 2012 fixing the dcing to avoid death from zombies could be fixed if rocket made zombies actually fun to kill. they currently sound like drowning profoundly retarded russians who have shitty animations that zig zag more than bill cosby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnT47r 51 Posted July 13, 2012 Caviano has it rightIt is impossible - impossible - to stop people using a third party program such as TS/vent/mumble etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeromentor 169 Posted July 13, 2012 Think of teamspeak as headsets that each person is wearing. Those headsets only link them to each other, and only those on that frequency can hear them (You have to be in their TS, Vent, Mumble, etc).You can't do much to stop players from using these. Communication is key to teamwork, and few people want to communicate with each other having to send messengers hundreds of meters from one groupmember to another to relay messages.Ingame chat might get more use if they add radios or similar.So, uh, thanks for the list. I guess... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vinss 21 Posted July 13, 2012 Caviano has it rightIt is impossible - impossible - to stop people using a third party program such as TS/vent/mumble etcCaviano is an bored evil sarcastic cub. Look at his postsI know it is impossible, but it does not make it less an exploit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zipper 69 Posted July 13, 2012 Oh... glad you have a better idea of what needs fixing than the Devs. Thanks man.Also... after actually reading your nonsense... number 3... is retarded... if you think third party voice comms are a problem.. you are unfixable.He said it was his opinion. He didn't demand these are the things that need fixing.#3 is not a problem. If you think 3rd party voice comms are a problem you have issues. It isn't even a topic that is repeated on the forums very much.#4 is a bug which is going to be fixed, again this isn't a repeated problem on the forums. Most people know it is a bug alreadyThird patry comm makes you telepathic ingame. Exploit.If you believe this you need a lot more help than these forums can provide you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baelethal 102 Posted July 13, 2012 Lets stop this whole mumble/ts/ventrillo "exploit" thing now, shall we.Though there's not a way to explain 3rd party comms in game, 3rd party comms are simply Meta-gaming. Meta-gaming is allowed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeromentor 169 Posted July 13, 2012 Caviano is an bored evil sarcastic cub. Look at his postsI know it is impossible, but it does not make it less an exploitInsulting people that disagree with you, great way to make friends. Sure you didn't start it, but do you really need to sink to that level? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caviano 287 Posted July 13, 2012 This is for new posters to not just repeat topics.You mean you...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFiction12 6 Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) How in earth would it actually make the difference if they make zombies funnier to kill? how in earth it would make the players stay? Edited July 13, 2012 by RedFiction12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnT47r 51 Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) "Though there's not a way to explain 3rd party comms in game"I built myself and my friends several radios that transmit on different wavelengths than your average UHF radio (read this if you need a list of possibilities) cannot pick up. Btw, most if not all military/police/civilian radio's transmit on UHF bands so would not be able to pick up a VLF transmission for exampleIt's rough, but it'd work :P Edited July 13, 2012 by KnT47r 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jetao2008@hotmail.com 175 Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Some of the ideas are cool, but the third one, really? I'm pretty sure you're forgetting this is a computer game after all.but it does not make it less an exploitCommunicating with friends to play a game is an exploit?So let's think about it for a second, you're here in the forum, maybe you're going to sleep in a few hours, or maybe you're sleeping right now. Isn't that an exploit too? I mean, you're safe inside your house, in your bed, don't you feel ashamed to turn the game off like that and run away? You should be ashamed. If you were that hardcore your computer would stay ONLINE 24/7!/Sarcasm.Honestly, what is wrong with some people when DayZ is the subject. Edited July 13, 2012 by Fenrig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt.gilmurray@gmail.com 46 Posted July 13, 2012 I'm pretty sure if they are known they don't need to be stated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caviano 287 Posted July 13, 2012 Caviano is an bored evil sarcastic cub. Look at his postsLook at my posts? If you really looked at my posts, you would see I do nothing but try to help and offer a common meeting ground for all survivors of all skill levels. I mean read the damn signature dude. I do nothing but try to extend my social network in the world of DayZ... I'm far from bored. But you compiling a list of REPEATED GLITCHES AND BUGS, and posting them, is not doing anyone any favors. ---And you complaining about meta gaming, when a)Rocket HIMSELF said meta gaming is part of the game. (USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION)and B) Meta-gaming IS PART OF GAMING ITSELF.Is pretty retarded.the main point is to use the search button. By all means share your ideas about third party voice comms being an exploit, make a separate thread about it and get laughed out of the forums. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vinss 21 Posted July 13, 2012 Fcs, maybe my english is not that good, sorry for that, just trying to get new posters to stop opening new topics on same old shit that are known. My gruop also uses TS. Definite exploit. Immersion and realism is in question here guys. Remember life before mobile phones, pagers etc. This is what happened in Chernarus when you spawned on the beach. Lost in woods? Yes you are. Or telepathic friends are guiding you? Do you see my point here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vinss 21 Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Some of the ideas are cool, but the third one, really? I'm pretty sure you're forgetting this is a computer game after all.Communicating with friends to play a game is an exploit?So let's think about it for a second, you're here in the forum, maybe you're going to sleep in a few hours, or maybe you're sleeping right now. Isn't that an exploit too? I mean, you're safe inside your house, in your bed, don't you feel ashamed to turn the game off like that and run away? You should be ashamed. If you were that hardcore your computer would stay ONLINE 24/7!/Sarcasm.Honestly, what is wrong with some people when DayZ is the subject.The thing with sleeping should also be a factor in this game. As sleeping requires safe place. Sleeping regenerates your body. Makes you thirsty. Can be killed when sleeping. This is the best game i played since first Close combat series. I go for realism all the way in gaming. I love dayz for it. And hope it gets better every single patch.And yes, would play it 24/7 if only i could :) /realistic Edited July 13, 2012 by vinss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vinss 21 Posted July 13, 2012 @caviano : retarded and unfixable are insults in my language. Hope to mistake you for a bandit soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caviano 287 Posted July 13, 2012 @caviano : retarded and unfixable are insults in my language. Hope to mistake you for a bandit soonme and my telepathic battalion will be waiting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vinss 21 Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) What server?And is Caviano your ingame name? Edited July 13, 2012 by vinss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legacy (DayZ) 1091 Posted July 13, 2012 1. D/cing to avoid death - known and fixable via punishments- Already being worked on.2. Server hopping/ghosting - ruins persistency - known and fixable- An interesting idea, but may come with the first idea.3. Third party communication - makes you and your group telepathic - almost impossible to prevent - should use radios and direct comm to be realisticDirect Comm works just fine. It'll come up soon as a regular patch for Arma 2 when available.4. Unlimmited ammo (recombining colt/m1911)+ relogging to get full magsThis is a well known bug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vinss 21 Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Thnx Legacy. Just trying to cut down new duplicating topics hereEdit: doesn't work Edited July 13, 2012 by vinss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xloppielx 2 Posted July 13, 2012 Anyone thinking that friends playing a video game together that use a 3rd party program like vent or Team speak is an exploit or cheating in any way need to get over your self and maybe get some friends to play with. It is a game and games are meant to be fun and enjoyable. Not being able to communicate with your friends while playing defeats the purpose of playing with a friend, especially in this game were the map is so big you may spend hours trying to even find them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vinss 21 Posted July 13, 2012 I play with friends and we use TS like for any other game. Dayz should use radios to find friends or meet on prevoiusly agreed spot. Like irl with no cellphone/ ventrilo and rest communication. Like the whole humanity survived before digital era. That is why i say it is exploit that makes you amd your team telepathic. Saw a youtube video with group being picked up by jeep, and inside that jerp they discused on TS to steal it and kill people that picked them up. That is when i realy saw how op is that telepatcy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites