Overhang 3 Posted July 12, 2012 Neither actually. People are complaining they can't get into every building they come across because occasionally one entrance/exit, or sometimes all entrances are blocked by barbed wire. This is not an exploit, it's a valid game mechanic and tactic. Sure, some folks are taking it too far and right now the mechanics need some tuning in terms of how long these items stay. We all know though even if the barbed wire only lasted for 2 hours people would still come on here and complain they couldn't get in a building.ps, there is a difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit. Bonus point if you know yours./winkCare to explain how its practical other than griefing and exploiting in regards to blocking off entrances to buidlings. Not sure how much you've played but its not uncommon to have all the key lootable buildings in electro and chern blocked off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harken (DayZ) 57 Posted July 12, 2012 Care to explain how its practical other than griefing and exploiting in regards to blocking off entrances to buidlings. Not sure how much you've played but its not uncommon to have all the key lootable buildings in electro and chern blocked off.If I told you I have a UAZ and two ATV's in my camp, would that explain how much I've played? : )I know the system at the moment needs tuning, but blocking other players from accessing key loot locations is a valid tactic with a very well known workaround, IE, go raid industrial sites til you get a toolbox. They are fairly common.Placing and removing defences should be very noisey work, so there would be a risk involved in using either tactic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
resident_leeonheart@yahoo.com 32 Posted July 12, 2012 Griefing is still griefing, Valid tactic? Valid tactic for what? Annoying other players so they hop into other servers? I tried pressing "v" to jump over the barbed wire in several servers but doesn't seem to work at all. I just give up and hop into another server( only to find the griefers placed barbed wire at the same position =.=; ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nickseemann@gmail.com 9 Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) It is a valid tactic, but currently it is nearly impossible to remove them. Therefore spamming barbed wire in valuable locations makes high-priority areas nearly impossible to access.Umm i remove them all the time, you point at the god damn wooden post holding up the wire, it is not hard at all to figure out.But I generally try not to be a dick with it, we took the 30 or so barbed wire and 10 tank traps we had and just put a perimeter around where we always fill up on gas and just left an opening directly in front and behind where we drive in so it is harder for people to sneak up on us while we are filling up on gas. It is still totally accessible you just are funneled into the two entrances. Edited July 12, 2012 by HoboNinja Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bludy 324 Posted July 12, 2012 fuck hopping, if i can 't get in i move to another location not another server! everyone is dcing typing atf4, server hopping..so boring so noob..not hardcore at all, just pussy behaviour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
resident_leeonheart@yahoo.com 32 Posted July 12, 2012 fuck hopping, if i can 't get in i move to another location not another server! everyone is dcing typing atf4, server hopping..so boring so noob..not hardcore at all, just pussy behaviourNo everyone is as "hardcore" as you want them to be. Don't like it? Just ignore. No need for harsh words. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Dant 158 Posted July 12, 2012 There was a bug where these items were duplicated, and so some servers have them left over (i think this is the case). people will often grief and lock off sections, true its very annoying, kind of just have to switch server if 1 is being locked down.The BIG problem was not the duping. From the video of it I saw, it would be impractical to dupe lots of barbed wire in different buildings.The HUGE issue is that removed wire comes back on the next server reset. So if I setup barbed wire anywhere for legitimate reasons, it will stay there forever. Trying to clean it is a losing battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piccolo_bsc 3 Posted July 12, 2012 I've never had trouble with barbed wire, I just walk up to it, press `v` then my guy hops over. Never had a single problem, not sure what everyone is complaining about.That only works if the guy setting up the wire fence is a retard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comcastle 12 Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) Stepping over the wire doesn't always work, it depends on how its set up. (I don't know what that way is, as I've yet to use wire)I've managed to step over some, but not others. I ended up getting trapped in a barn with two other guys who'd been able to use the steps inside to get over one length of wire, but then we had no way to get out again. Just couldn't step over it.Glitches in using the steps inside meant those two guys had broken legs and had to suicide to get out, and I was forced to server hop in order to get out of the barn again. Edited July 12, 2012 by Comcastle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickenbacker 190 Posted July 12, 2012 It might be a 'valid tactic' for protecting your camp, or covering approaches while fueling vehicles, but it's not a 'valid tactic' for blocking off random buildings so you can farm loot. That's just exploiting and griefing in an unholy combination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dominance 0 Posted July 12, 2012 Because people are annoying fuckheads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harken (DayZ) 57 Posted July 12, 2012 I am sorry, I find it ridiculous people are whining about not being able to access key buildings in cities. That just speaks volumes about how lazy most players are.I was being chased by a group of Zeds the other day near the edge of Cherno (my buddy let off a shot accidently). I tried to run into a fire station and the entrance was blocked. In fact, all the entrances were blocked and you know what I did? I smiled, took a few hits and moved on. Came back later with a toolbox and cleared them.You see what I did there?More pew pew, less QQ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whattteva 32 Posted July 12, 2012 (edited) I don't really have any problems with them, except for the difficulty of removing the damn things. It literally takes me like 5 minutes to remove one cause it's so goddamn hard to get the freaking context menu to show up. A lot of times, I would move around the stupid post only to see the option for like a split second (not enough for me to scroll up to it to remove it). I don't mind other things like tank traps, cause I can get context menu to show up easily there, but the barbed wires... ugh.... It's really not worth it most of the time to remove it cause it would take me 5 minutes just to remove one. And usually, there'd be multiple wires.... Honestly, I don't even know how they get enough space and time to deploy like 3+ wires and 3+ tank traps around the whole damn building without cheating.Seriously, they need to make the barbed wire removable everywhere the barbed wire picture is.. not just like 2-3 pixels of the post. Edited July 12, 2012 by Whattteva Share this post Link to post Share on other sites