Lasting Appeal?

[iceman28001 36]

Where is this mods lasting appeal?

It seems to get very repetitive... Go into town get stocked up on good gear, go sit in woods and play with yourself. Go become a "bandit" and just kill people. Or what? Just sit out in the middle of nowhere and kill pigs and eat...?

Sorry to say this, I love the mod, but... there is no replayability after awhile. It is awesome when you are new, but after a while its just bland?

Before what kept it fresh was meeting other players and interacting with them. Now that is just gone, as everyone is shooty happy. I play with friends, but they also seem to be getting tired out... There is no real objective... cars and tent camps so dumb and boring. Getting the best gear,is not that hard or worth the time.

Game seems to be 40 minutes walking simulator, 5 minutes... call of duty.

Not fun anymore, only thing that made this better than call of duty, battlefield, l4d2, etc.. Was person, person interaction, which was, was, unpredictable. Now that it is predictable... what is left?

A dieing idea, because of the players who say they love the idea.

[osiriszoran 33]

Dat feel when you finally get bored of a game. Its ok bro, happens to everyone at some point. Starting to feel it myself as my playing time has gone down.

[LumberBack 43]

its all good, once the bandits gets bored, the people that want to "play the game" can log on again...

[Daddy'o 4]

Yeah I can relate to this. At peak point we had 5 active people, 7 on a very few occasions (whole team online) and now it's just me with the occasional mate I started with popping in once a week.

It's just that we've seen it all done it all.

Learned how to survive - check

Looted towns and cities - check

Found military grade gear - check

Traversed the map all around - check

Looted the NWA a few times - check

Messed around Stary a few times - check

Died a few times and re-established ourselves -check

Had a huge camp with 10+ tents and shitloads of gear - check

Had 8 vehicles stored - check

Were in fire fights, both from our initiation and others - check

Got all our vehicles stolen or blown up -check

Got our campsite raided -check

Learned of the bitter taste of getting everything taken away - check

Finally wound up to the point nothing mattered except trying to get giggles out of the game driving a bus at the coast and shooting people -check

What's there left to do? Nothing. Now a few of those groupies are trying to get me DL some god awful RP mod for arma called citylife or something...

[ThomasTheCreeper 9]

Remember that this is the open alpha of a mod, which is far from the finished mod and even further from a possible standalone.. It seems people dont understand this for some reason.

Also, as rocket stated in one of his interviews he is looking into the lack of endgame.

[Neokolzia 3]

Well Dayz is more of a Hardcore, PVPFPSRPG, then anything it isn't about surviving and working together play, dead island or something if you want that.

You give people a sand box, and you give them guns, and you give them the ability to shoot each other.

and you bitch that we shoot each other? Ha?

I can clearly see how well educated you are about human nature.

[LumberBack 43]

Well Dayz is more of a Hardcore' date=' PVPFPSRPG, then anything it isn't about surviving and working together play, dead island or something if you want that.

You give people a sand box, and you give them guns, and you give them the ability to shoot each other.

and you bitch that we shoot each other? Ha?

I can clearly see how well educated you are about human nature.

[/quote']

you dont get it, that is the experiment, and most have failed catastrophically...

[Daddy'o 4]

How the hell do you fail an observational experiment? :D

The point was to experiment what people would do with the scenario given.

This is what people would do with this scenario. It's isn't a failure. It's human nature (in-game).

[vaginaboob 0]

Well Dayz is more of a Hardcore' date=' PVPFPSRPG, then anything it isn't about surviving and working together play, dead island or something if you want that.

You give people a sand box, and you give them guns, and you give them the ability to shoot each other.

and you bitch that we shoot each other? Ha?

I can clearly see how well educated you are about human nature.

[/quote']

Uh yeah its supposed to be surviving and working together that's a big part of it. It's just people like you who turned it into a deathmatch with zombies tossed in for extra npc targets. Now there's no player interaction, 0. If i just want to shoot people I'll go play Cs, that way i don't have to run for an hour to find good gear and then another hour to find someone to shoot at. I don't mind getting pk'd now and again but all the time? every single time? I'm sorry but you sir (or kid cause you come off as one) are an idiot.

[Daddy'o 4]

I understand you, the guy above me, but you know why it doesn't work like that? Why don't people work together to survive?

Because they don't need to.

You can get everything you need to in order to survive way easier and safer by killing a player you see. Chances are he has tools you don't, he has food collected, he has a better weapon than you do, more ammo than you, bigger bag.

Why should you team up with him, and possibly risk that he wants to see what you're carrying with you?

Many people make the easier choice to just shoot the person and make his stuff their own. It's just easier. You don't need anyone to help you survive. You can do it fine by yourself. Don't ever even need to go and loot a town. Hell my other character has been surviving off dead players for a week now, haven't even been within 700 meters to a town.

IF surviving was harder, if you ACTUALLY needed other peoples help to survive, IF towns had SOMETHING that you couldn't get by shooting other players, THEN it might be like you describe. Currently though, there's no point working together with no one in order to survive.

[iceman28001 36]

This is a PVPFPSRPG? I have heard it all.

First of all, if you think everyone lone wolving and killing everyone is human nature, you are as dumb as your post sounds. Please don't call me uneducated, I doubt you even got a fraction of the psychology courses under your belt that I do, let alone the fact that you probably have never stepped foot in a university.

Next, if you think that it is easy to kill a person, get off your Cheetos ridden chair and ask a war veteran what it is like to have to kill another man.

After that has sunk into your tiny little pee brain, I am bitching about people randomly killing one another. What is the point to this game compared to any other. Might entertain your small thinking ability to randomly running around shooting. For the average person of intelligence, that bores us, because in the real world. You would have died out long ago, hopefully rocket adds features that eventually allows that be so. All blood thirsty cultures have died out over time, or are still fading out. They are either overcome by the group force. Whipped into submission by the group, or kill one another out. Unforgettably in video games, you annoying bastards re-spawn, thus the problem with the mod. Make it HARDER, if you die, or get in a gun fight. You lose all your shit, if you have to re spawn... it should take you a long-ass time to get a gun, supplies, 5/10 times you should starve to death or get eaten if you don't have a group to help you.

This mod is becoming coated in moronic pussies.

Either way, if you think you are educated in human nature, please choke on your god damn Cheetos before you manage to spread your DNA to some dumb scum that would accept it.

That is all.

*EDIT*

Glad to you see the couple posts above agreeing, that if people think it is easy to lone wolve, it. Make the shit harder, make these dumb asses need help. Make guns rare as hell, ammo just as rare, make food harder to find. Water an amazing resource, make ponds become a damn place to hold dear not a firehouse.

[phil 103]

it's an alpha

[The Poacher 31]

Yeah its pretty easy and boring to survive alone as the mod stands right now. Get water bottle, survival gear. Raid tree stands. Survival needs to be much more difficult so people are forced to group.

[iceman28001 36]

it's an alpha

Thus made for testing, suggestions, and discussions. Not for assuming that it will be fixed, there's a point to the form dim wit.

This is a discussion on lasting appeal. Join in or sit there with your thumb up your ass saying it's alpha either works fine for you I suppose.

[Daddy'o 4]

Whoa man, high horse and all that. Chill and calm down a bit.

You talk a lot about human nature and what people would do in real life and you seem to talk for the entire mass of normal and intelligent people. Well fine.

But if you're of so high intelligence it shouldn't be too hard to understand that while Rocket prefers to call this an anti-game, it's still is a game for most people. Games are played for fun.

Now I ask you this, why do people play games?

I would answer, for fun and entertainment.

How long will you be entertained by crawling around and shooting mindless badly AI controlled uninteresting zombies?

I would answer not very long.

What do you do when you have the rarest weapons, ammo and all the food and medical supplies you can carry? What's there left to strive for?

When zombies won't give you adrenaline and fun anymore?

Answer is the same as most people who have played longer than a week have already found out. It's meeting people. Player versus player. Surviving an encounter with someone you don't know, someone whose motives or intentions you don't know. Your heart starts racing. Your palms start to sweat. Does he have better stuff than I do? Would he give me some if I asked? Hell no. Why would he? Should I just take em?Can I kill him with one shot? What are my chances? Does he have mates? Will I aggro zombies if I shoot him... fuck it he's leaving! FIRE!

Now THAT is why this game is so fun and popular. Not because "oh hi! Wanna team up? there's some zombies we could go and crawl around!".

[gorkounov 2]

it's an alpha

Thus made for testing' date=' suggestions, and discussions. Not for assuming that it will be fixed, there's a point to the form dim wit.

This is a discussion on lasting appeal. Join in or sit there with your thumb up your ass saying it's alpha either works fine for you I suppose.

[/quote']

Well, Rocket said he might be adding features such as Radios and some sort of Electricity system (PC Gamer interview).

When people say "It's an Alpha" i think they mean that this game isn't close to being finished as he's still adding new features/goals.

[iceman28001 36]

Answer is the same as most people who have played longer than a week have already found out. It's meeting people. Player versus player. Surviving an encounter with someone you don't know' date=' someone whose motives or intentions you don't know. Your heart starts racing. Your palms start to sweat. Does he have better stuff than I do? Would he give me some if I asked? Hell no. Why would he? Should I just take em?Can I kill him with one shot? What are my chances? Does he have mates? Will I aggro zombies if I shoot him... fuck it he's leaving! FIRE!

Now THAT is why this game is so fun and popular. Not because "oh hi! Wanna team up? there's some zombies we could go and crawl around!".

[/quote']

Where did I say that everyone would team up and be marry. I said lone wolving should be near impossible. You should have shit chances running around and grabbing a pistol then going on a killing spree. Should be damn near impossible, but maybe with a crew it could be more possible. As of now it's 95% lone wolves killing for sport, not even for need.

That post on my high horse, was directed at that dumbass. You can take that way as well, I am one of those people who don't give a fuck. If is something is dumb, I will say it is dumb.

You said before that it is person via person interaction and that moment that make this mod great, yes, but as of now there is no thought to that moment. No, reason to worry about dieing. I can die and have a m4 and go another killing spree in 6 minutes.

Simply make the game harder, in every since of the word, it will weed out run and gun and make you think about those questions you ask. Well some of them anyways, some are just stupid. If you are starving you would not need to ask that question, but if you were fine on food and water. Then, shit, why kill him if your rare ammo will have to be used fighting off the impeding zombie rush. Is it really worth it? As of now DMRs and M4s and Shotguns are so plentyful, it is. Why the fuck not kill that guy? A shot should bring 25+ zombies out of a town and running in that direction. As of now, a shotgun makes the same sound as me running on pavement. You should dread taking that shot, or know to take it and get your shit and get out.

Please do not take my words out of context, makes you seem as dumb as the other guy.

[Daddy'o 4]

Well that's true. I agree that making the game harder and guns and ammo especially way rarer would promote team play and reduce the pvp element of the game.

However it would also diminish the game itself. Having weapons and ammo as rare as hell would then make the game pretty dull since what is there to do then? Run around weaponless, meeting other people who you don't really have to be afraid of because they can't hurt you because they don't either want to waste ammo or don't have weapons or that said ammo.

Sure you would need to team up with people in order to survive, but then, surviving from zombies and the very rare occasion of a person wanting to kill you isn't really that much fun is it? I'm not saying it wouldn't be for some people, but I'm sure you can understand that I'm not completely full of shit when I say most people like this game BECAUSE they have weapons and ammo. I like this game for that reason as well. It's just that shooting zombies is boring as hell. Out smarting and outgunning people is fun :D

[vaginaboob 0]

I understand you' date=' the guy above me, but you know why it doesn't work like that? Why don't people work together to survive?

Because they don't need to.

You can get everything you need to in order to survive way easier and safer by killing a player you see. Chances are he has tools you don't, he has food collected, he has a better weapon than you do, more ammo than you, bigger bag.

Why should you team up with him, and possibly risk that he wants to see what you're carrying with you?

Many people make the easier choice to just shoot the person and make his stuff their own. It's just easier. You don't need anyone to help you survive. You can do it fine by yourself. Don't ever even need to go and loot a town. Hell my other character has been surviving off dead players for a week now, haven't even been within 700 meters to a town.

IF surviving was harder, if you ACTUALLY needed other peoples help to survive, IF towns had SOMETHING that you couldn't get by shooting other players, THEN it might be like you describe. Currently though, there's no point working together with no one in order to survive.

[/quote']

I agree with that, the game is really easy to survive on your own that way you don't need to be in a group. But to be honest most people that kill me don't kill me for my gear, they kill me just because. Ive been killed unarmed, with an axe and nothing but a bandage on me. Most of the time when i get killed it's solely for the lulz, oh a player?! DIE. It's not oh this guy may have some loot, let me rob him. I'd rather have someone say sorry dude but I'm out of food time to die, instead of just being shot and that's it, there goes 5 hours wasted.

[Patient Zero 2]

only thing that made this better than call of duty' date=' battlefield, l4d2, etc.. Was person, person interaction, which was, was, unpredictable. Now that it is predictable... what is left?

[/quote']

Can't say I agree that that was the only thing that made it better.

But I do agree very much that the person to person interaction is becoming few and far between, and the rest predictable knee jerk reaction.

[Yeung-Jin 28]

This is a PVPFPSRPG? I have heard it all.

First of all' date=' if you think everyone lone wolving and killing everyone is human nature, you are as dumb as your post sounds. Please don't call me uneducated, I doubt you even got a fraction of the psychology courses under your belt that I do, let alone the fact that you probably have never stepped foot in a university.

Next, if you think that it is easy to kill a person, get off your Cheetos ridden chair and ask a war veteran what it is like to have to kill another man.

After that has sunk into your tiny little pee brain, I am bitching about people randomly killing one another. What is the point to this game compared to any other. Might entertain your small thinking ability to randomly running around shooting. For the average person of intelligence, that bores us, because in the real world. You would have died out long ago, hopefully rocket adds features that eventually allows that be so. All blood thirsty cultures have died out over time, or are still fading out. They are either overcome by the group force. Whipped into submission by the group, or kill one another out. Unforgettably in video games, you annoying bastards re-spawn, thus the problem with the mod. Make it HARDER, if you die, or get in a gun fight. You lose all your shit, if you have to re spawn... it should take you a long-ass time to get a gun, supplies, 5/10 times you should starve to death or get eaten if you don't have a group to help you.

This mod is becoming coated in moronic pussies.

Either way, if you think you are educated in human nature, please choke on your god damn Cheetos before you manage to spread your DNA to some dumb scum that would accept it.

That is all.

*EDIT*

Glad to you see the couple posts above agreeing, that if people think it is easy to lone wolve, it. Make the shit harder, make these dumb asses need help. Make guns rare as hell, ammo just as rare, make food harder to find. Water an amazing resource, make ponds become a damn place to hold dear not a firehouse.

[/quote']

lol psychology. you pseudoscience folks and your egos.

[EBRAddict 9]

I realize this is an alpha, but now that I've done the exploring and kitting up twice it is no longer entertaining, its simply a grind culminating in a few second firefight at the NWAF.

I can see a lot of effort has been put into this and I hope they can add some depth to the concept.

[The Poacher 31]

lol psychology. you pseudoscience folks and your egos.

Yeah you don't agree with what he said, must be pseudo-science. Damn shrinks, amirite?

[Yeung-Jin 28]

lol psychology. you pseudoscience folks and your egos.

Yeah you don't agree with what he said' date=' must be pseudo-science. Damn shrinks, amirite?

[/quote']

Just taking a jab at his high horse act. Regardless of what his opinion is he's conveying it like a self-important ass.

[iceman28001 36]

lol psychology. you pseudoscience folks and your egos.

Yeah you don't agree with what he said' date=' must be pseudo-science. Damn shrinks, amirite?

[/quote']

Just taking a jab at his high horse act. Regardless of what his opinion is he's conveying it like a self-important ass.

I try my best sir. I hate moronic statements. That guys statement made no sense, I said that made no sense, why it made no sense. If that is a high horse, I will take 2 more horses.

Added to his in general dumb statement, he called me uneducated. So my reply was very subtle.. in my taste.