How to farm loot. A guide to collecting what you want. (Outdated)

[carkasjak 0]

Wow, this would help explain why it's often so hard to find a weapon after respawning on heavily populated servers. Nobody loots the tin cans and other junk, so many of the loot piles never respawn.

[syncmaster (DayZ) 63]

Its weird. I've experienced this too, where you find loot you don't want (or just cans), then come back HOURS later and its the exact same stuff.

I've also come to an area and found nothing but cans in the first building, ran to the next building, then ended up back at the first (aggroed z's or something) and there is new loot in some places. It seems really random sometimes, that or a 3rd party you are unaware of might trigger something.

Then, like I said earlier. I've seen a group clear out loot and it re spawn almost instantly right in front of my face. Like literary by the time they (2 man team) got though the first half of the tents in Stary, the loot was already respawning in the tents they cleared out. There were piles of every military gun you could imagine in less than 5 minutes.

[U.B.C.S. Ravin 326]

@ Sync - Maybe they have a much better understanding about how the loot works. Or perhaps General Military Buildings spawn loot faster

[Trajado 22]

This post..

And all the hate.

It makes me laugh so hard im literally crying here.

So you are saying loot respawns by itself' date=' if the loot is to old?

And how long do you recon that takes? hours, or every server reset?

We have left loot in a building, then come back to it 3hours later, and the same loot was in it, and in the same bloody spot.

So magically the same loot that was in it earlier, must have respawned at the same location then i recon. Since the loot variation is so "small", the chance of getting duplicate loots in a building with 24diffrent loot spots is pretty easy.

Please don't try and make that sound like an intelligent statement mate.

We have all run into building where there are only tin cans in them, and then circling back hours later and getting into the same building, simply to see that the same tin cans are still there.

Loot does not respawn, end of story.

The only times it does is when loot is removed from the building itself, or from it's original spawn point and to another/newer spot.

Farming gear like this ain't game breaking, nor is it an exploit.

We are constantly put at risk of getting shot from diffrent spots, because we only farm hot spots, simply because we like the thrill of the hunt and beeing the hunted.

We have ton's of fun, and we do die, and we put down work into what we do, who are you to tell us how to play the game?

Please do ellaborate as to why we aren't playing it right and you are?

Aren't we survivng, ridding chernarus of zombies?

Stacking up on food, water and medical supplies?

Seem's like someone are just sad they haven't figured this out themselfs..

Anyways, cu on our server at the locations Ravin posted, please come visit, we are DIEING to meet you.

kind regards,

-Z

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I suggest you either go read the discussion, or if you did read it, go back to school and learn to understand what you read, cuz if you want to participate in men debates you need to lose that dick up your ass that makes you feel king of the world.

See? 2 can play the offensive sentences game.

I wasnt crying, or making BS statements for sake of the "feel good about me" attitude, if you had read it all, you would of noticed the statement was made by Rocket and was quoted on another post. Get your head out of the sand lil man.

"Loot does not respawn, end of story." - You have no evidence of such. You have your own looting experience, i have mine, i say it does respawn. Maybe for your group it doesnt respawn cuz you abuse the mechanics? Ever thought about it?

Again risk is not an excuse. If you came to say pretty much all the same your partner alrdy said, then you didnt add anything to this thread. Do you all have some sort of speech memorized or something?

And yes, i am so sad i didnt see this about loot, and getting killed by you will make me so sad and cry, cuz im a child, like you actualy.

Now that make me laugh... Cmon dude who do you think you are talking to? Some 12 year old? At least Ravin had the brain to understand he wasnt talking to some idiot and used arguments instead of ridiculous personal atacks like you, that lead to nothing in the end seeing that you didnt add shit to the debate.

[U.B.C.S. Ravin 326]

Even if I disagree with an individual I still talk to them.

However, Tra, you'll notice several dozen posts in this thread about people who noticed the same loot problems. For example.

Wow' date=' this would help explain why it's often so hard to find a weapon after respawning on heavily populated servers. Nobody loots the tin cans and other junk, so many of the loot piles never respawn.

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This is one of them. I do not think you really do see loot respawning. I want to suggest this to you then. Go to a city outside of Chenro or Eletro, one that not many people go to-- Like lets say... Rogovo or Pulkovo. I want you to find a house and screenshot the loot inside of it. Then run away from it.

Now, decide to do two things, one, hang around within 200m of the building and see if the loot despawned after you checked it and not moved it. If it doesn't despawn, then leave the are and come back in an half an hour.

Tell me if the loot despawns/respawns then.

Make sure there is no server restart inbetween the time this happens and when you test out what is going on. I would appreciate your finding and what happens with the loot.

[nickcakes 4]

Having looked through the dayz files, it appears that the loot respawns are on a 10 minute timer from when the pile originally spawned as well. Thought you might want to include that in your OP if you can confirm it.

[U.B.C.S. Ravin 326]

Having looked through the dayz files' date=' it appears that the loot respawns are on a 10 minute timer from when the pile originally spawned as well. Thought you might want to include that in your OP if you can confirm it.

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Is that so? Thank you. I will add it.

[xximrtwoixx 104]

Its rather pointless to complain about farming the game mechanics encourage players to farm as it greatly increases the amount of loot they obtain and they also have the benefit of being fairly secure if in a low pop server or large group. As long as loot respawns you will have people farming it, there is no mechanic that will generate loot that will prevent farming. Servers/players need loot to spawn/despawn on demand for performance/playability.

If you don't like this game mechanic you should post a suggestion that it be changed, as this would be the only way around loot farming, and as this is alpha this is the time to test new mechanics. I think it could be fun to play through an update were servers have no respawn of loot, or there are hard caps on numbers of items in a server.

To the OP, good info, I have no objections to loot farming, all you really get out of it is the ability to avoid finding all of the crap other players didn't want to pick up. Do you have an explanation as to why gear will sometimes spawn immediatly after old items are picked up? I have picked up one remaining item in a location only to have all of the loot spawns there spawn gear. I do play in a group so maybe it was caused by the distance of another player but I'm not sure.

[U.B.C.S. Ravin 326]

@ Mr Two - I have no idea. I have never had loot instantly respawn. Maybe this is where people said 'Rocket attempted to fix loot spawns' mixed with 'Loot spawn timers' Maybe loot is attempting to despawn, but doesn't, when you remove loot or pick it up, the timer is already up and instantly drops more loot, refreshing the timer.

That would be my best guess.

[Techercizer 82]

I've had loot instantly spawn in front of before, but it's been related to other players entering the area.

[U.B.C.S. Ravin 326]

@ Tech - Hm. I wonder if they were closer to it before you. Vise Versa, or has something to do with the people coming in close to you while you are looting, forcing the player data to refresh the loot.

Ill have to test that out with someone who is not within 200m, come running in as I am looting and see if that does something. If so, that is a definite loot problem and should be patched. Maybe that is what a poster in here was explaining.

[D4saken1 80]

Most people disagree with your playstyle. Not bad info; not my thing.

Yiff in hell, peace out bro.

[Techercizer 82]

Anecdote time.

One time, when I was living in my old house outside Elektro, I thought I heard footsteps outside. I looked over to the window, and there was a human head poking just out of the bottom looking right at me that ducked down after a timeless moment of mutual staring. I knew from the tension in that moment: he was here to kill me.

My house was one of the standard enterable one-room-one-hallway log houses. I dived for cover under the window in the living room so he couldn't shoot me through the glass, lay there on the floor with the gun pointed at the door, and I waited.

I heard him creeping around the house crouched and prone. Sometimes just for short periods as he messed up a silent walk, sometimes just moving around. He ran away and ran back several times, some times he even ran off, fired a shot, and snuck back. I never stopped pointing my gun at the doorway, even as I got more and more tired. Eventually, after 20 minutes of silence after hearing him go away again, I decided he wasn't out there any more.

When got up, I realized I'd been sitting in a pile of loot for god knows how long, right in the middle of my chest; my would-be assaulter had spawned it in right under me by leaving and re-entering the area.

[U.B.C.S. Ravin 326]

Most people disagree with your playstyle. Not bad info; not my thing.

Yiff in hell' date=' peace out bro.

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My playstyle? Alright lets compare with what normal individual playstyle is.

Get what you can on the coast, run out to the North, Hide along the edges of the map in a forest, scavange and avoid PVP whenever possible.

My playstyle would be.

Forcing players to engage in PVP to gather high valued loot, risking my life by being in some of the biggest hotspots in Day-Z. Requiring massive amounts of players, time, dedication and effort to keep our locations and camps running. Killing people and killing ourselves.

About the yiffing part, sorry to tell you 'bro'. but I don't 'yiff'. I only have a furry avatar as a request from a friend of mine because I like wolves. Have since I was little. Just a bit of personal info, Aye?

@ Tech - If he left an area loot should trigger to you-- unless when you enter an area then attempt to leave it keeps track of you for even longer periods of time.I know I have spawned in some zombies and they will sometimes roam away from me near 400m+.

[Techercizer 82]

Look OP: I don't judge, and some of my close friends are furs, so I hope you won't take it the wrong way when I say that people mistaking you for one kind of comes with the territory of having an avatar like that. You can't really blame people for trying to identify you by your avatar; it's the internet forum equivalent of a headshot.

[U.B.C.S. Ravin 326]

@ Tech - Oh, I know. I completely expect that. Though if someone brings it up I do my best to explain myself. People can think whatever they like, can't stop that. Though when someone voices it, that's completely different.

[D4saken1 80]

Forcing PvP in a end of the world setting makes little sense since it's so open ended. I would say PvP players need to flesh out a few servers just for pure PvP play-style. Otherwise forcing players to PvP wouldn't be fair to people who do not want to play like that.

I am a fan of PvP but in this game I usually try to avoid it like irl I would not want to take a chance of being killed unless a conflict was imminent.

(small team wars on our servers lend to this for myself I avoid people 90% of the time unless I make dangerous supply runs. It works for my adrenaline.)

As for the furry thing lol I really don't care either way I just say rediculous stuff for no reason.

[U.B.C.S. Ravin 326]

@ D4 - Day-Z is a supposed to be a bit of both, Zombies and bandits.

Many people consider me a bandit, but often enough Id rather not kill someone, and usually don't when I freshly spawn in. Though up north, I could care less if they are friendly or not! I think currently right now Day-Z says no to pure PVP servers or Pure No-PvP servers for a number of reasons and just isn't possible at the moment.

Also, I'd think Just PVP server would be Arma 2, without the tank's, wouldn't it?

I really think I should get some rest. its 10am and I haven't slept. Had a firefight at the airfield at 4am with three other guys and died, so I am a bit 'ohgodneedsomesleepnow'.

Also know I didn't take offense to anything you said. If it seemed like I was defensive, I didn't mean to be. I am just very, very tired.

[Hillbilly (DayZ) 8]

Even with all the complaints about this being an exploit and arguing about it. Did anyone even bother to attempt to report it? I was expecting to see some Day Z dev post in here to explain rather this is an exploit or not, but didn't find anything.

Its far better to ask people on the Day Z team about this. It helps them fix the loot system and also it can warn people about rather this is a bannable offense or not.

[Trajado 22]

Even if I disagree with an individual I still talk to them.

However' date=' Tra, you'll notice several dozen posts in this thread about people who noticed the same loot problems. For example.

Wow, this would help explain why it's often so hard to find a weapon after respawning on heavily populated servers. Nobody loots the tin cans and other junk, so many of the loot piles never respawn.

This is one of them. I do not think you really do see loot respawning. I want to suggest this to you then. Go to a city outside of Chenro or Eletro, one that not many people go to-- Like lets say... Rogovo or Pulkovo. I want you to find a house and screenshot the loot inside of it. Then run away from it.

Now, decide to do two things, one, hang around within 200m of the building and see if the loot despawned after you checked it and not moved it. If it doesn't despawn, then leave the are and come back in an half an hour.

Tell me if the loot despawns/respawns then.

Make sure there is no server restart inbetween the time this happens and when you test out what is going on. I would appreciate your finding and what happens with the loot.

As i said, i stick to the North towns that are less populated, and no, i dont see loot respawning, i said i see zeds spawning when i arrive, and when i enter buildings all loot spots are empty, wich supports the theory that when loot is too old it respawns when a player gets near.

To be honest i never came back to check if it respawned, cuz when i log in i plan a route and stick to it no matter what, unless maybe i see a deer stand in the horizon.

Never the less, yesterday, i did see loot spawning. I went to Devil's Castle, went in all the way to the top, and on the way up i saw several loots.

I picked 3 or 4 things, but didnt clean any loot completly, and when i came back down, maybe 5 mins later, about half the loot spots had respawned diferent stuff, and new ones that i didnt even know where there at first cuz there was nothing on the floor spawned too.

See what i mean? I dont belive the mechanics work exactly how you described, and for example, when people say "I went by a loot, 3h later came back and same loot was there!", this means nothing! In 3h who knows how many players went by? How many times it respawned? Whos to say that the same loot didnt respawn on the same place?

I say i consider it an exploit cuz you are forcing the game to spawn new loots when it doesnt need too. If you pick clean a loot spot of tin cans, go by moments later and you pick clean again a loot of tins cans, you are forcing the game to spawn what you want.

In reality what you are doing is using the loot spawn probabilities for your advantage. Imagine doing that in a hospital, if you clean it out every 15 mins eventually you will pick up some Antibiotics, wich is wrong cuz the fact is, they have a low chance of spawning for a reason. Its suppose to spawn few times, its suppose to exist as lil as possible of that item in game, but you are forcing it to spawn by cleaning it over and over again until you get them.

You are abusing the mechanics to force the odds of getting a specific item in your favor, therefor exploiting.

If you want my honest opinion, im not at all against exploiting, its simply a question of moral standarts, i wont do it, but if anyone feels they need it cuz they have the need to get an advantage over the rest, then by all means, go for it.

I like to think about it like it happens in the casinos. If you are a master with your memory and can more easily predict what card comes out next, you are simply using your brain to play the game, using the loop hole the game has, but truth is, if you are caught doing it, you will get banned from the casino.

[U.B.C.S. Ravin 326]

Even with all the complaints about this being an exploit and arguing about it. Did anyone even bother to attempt to report it? I was expecting to see some Day Z dev post in here to explain rather this is an exploit or not' date=' but didn't find anything.

Its far better to ask people on the Day Z team about this. It helps them fix the loot system and also it can warn people about rather this is a bannable offense or not.

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A Day-Z Mod closed a troll thread about this thread here, they closed it pretty quickly. Seen a few mods/devs reading this thread also and have said nothing.

I have actually been hoping for a mod/dev post on the topic. I don't expect them too however. Too busy dealing with the LGBT

[Hillbilly (DayZ) 8]

While this is far less of an exploit on the level of simply duping or disconnecting in pvp. It may technically be called an exploit. Although I would like for some actual input from someone on the Day Z team so we have some idea if they will attempt to fix this. I haven't been on these forums much so I don't know how much this has been talked about on here.

I would think it would be preferable to find a way to prevent this. Right now its literally a game mechanic that isn't technically ruining the game and so far (for me) it seems to be extremely risky for a bunch of weapons you likely already have. It should still be fixed anyway, but I wouldn't ban for it. Even if you do this at NWA I highly doubt you will get a crap load of NVGs. The way the loot spawns it just won't happen.

[U.B.C.S. Ravin 326]

@Hillybilly - Not sure how its very risky for you. Far more risky for me. I got everything to lose. If you are going to the NWAF or Starr, you expect to run into players anyway, don't you?

We also barely get any NVG's to spawn, we actually end up killing more people who have NVG's than we EVER find. Like this morning when this happened

I also agree that loot needs to be adjusted. I think I posted earlier that I would love to talk about loot discussion and how it works, with its current Pro's and Con's in another thread.

This thread however, is about how to farm loot easiest.

Edit - Someone remind me to reply to Tra's post when I wake up... You know what, never mind. Ill just keep it up and shut my monitor off so when I wake up at 4pm I will be able to read it.

[Hillbilly (DayZ) 8]

I said it was very risky to do this for anyone how did you figure I was talking just about myself? If you loot farm in high risk places it is extremely risky making me rather wary of doing it. It is simply a risky exploit that I might end up getting something rare after a few hours of doing it. I would get better loot from choppers or killing other players.

[Ganjastar 53]

I frown deeply upon server hopping.

yet you recomend loging of to let the loot respawn. its the same shit. your just hoping onto the same server...