merropa93 106 Posted January 16 Hey, Survivors! Experimental branches of update 1.27 are now live on Steam and Xbox. Check out what's new! Read the full article here. _______________ PC changelog Xbox changelog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Veronica Wisenbarger 1 Posted January 17 (edited) So why isn’t Sakhal on Xbox if it’s live? How do any of these changes even come close to affecting Livonia or chernarus aside from the backpack slot. Reinstalled experimental just to try it and there’s no Sakhal servers at all. SMH oh that’s right. Experimental still doesn’t seem to recognize we own the dlc. Fantastic work. Bravo Edited January 17 by Veronica Wisenbarger 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzplayer1234 34 Posted January 17 (edited) Omg u lazy bastards...another feature update that modded servers have had for years....did you just copy paste content from workshop and edit it slightly and call it development? would explain why theres always soo many bugs in your content updates...but atleast modders are more competent at fixing them ...so you wait a couple of years till their stable enough for you to impliment to the main game without breaking stuff too much and hope sh1t still works? Edited January 17 by dayzplayer1234 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzplayer1234 34 Posted January 17 OUH and dont get me started on all the sound updates you make...FFS hire a person that knows what they are doing so you dont have to rework, tweak sounds EVERY patch. For a decent sound developer its like a few months of work to set up everything properly. that you cant achive in 11 years of development and still "figuring things out" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etwas 147 Posted January 17 On 1/17/2025 at 7:51 PM, dayzplayer1234 said: Omg u lazy bastards...another feature update that modded servers have had for years....did you just copy paste content from workshop and edit it slightly and call it development? would explain why theres always soo many bugs in your content updates...but atleast modders are more competent at fixing them ...so you wait a couple of years till their stable enough for you to impliment to the main game without breaking stuff too much and hope sh1t still works? some people actually appreciate these changes in the VANILLA game. the reduction of slots made perfect sense, so is the introduction of attachment slots for backpacks. whats wrong about it? u can still use unbalanced modded backpacks with 120 slots and 2 rifle slots on top of it. but i prefer the way the devs balanced it. On 1/17/2025 at 8:05 PM, dayzplayer1234 said: OUH and dont get me started on all the sound updates you make...FFS hire a person that knows what they are doing so you dont have to rework, tweak sounds EVERY patch. For a decent sound developer its like a few months of work to set up everything properly. that you cant achive in 11 years of development and still "figuring things out" so they improved the sound environment and this is.... bad? the sounds between footsteps and kinda ALL other sound effects were quite unbalanced for many years. i wouldnt be mad about this changes. more the opposite. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sid Debian 149 Posted January 18 On 1/17/2025 at 8:46 PM, etwas said: some people actually appreciate these changes in the VANILLA game. the reduction of slots made perfect sense, so is the introduction of attachment slots for backpacks. whats wrong about it? u can still use unbalanced modded backpacks with 120 slots and 2 rifle slots on top of it. but i prefer the way the devs balanced it. so they improved the sound environment and this is.... bad? the sounds between footsteps and kinda ALL other sound effects were quite unbalanced for many years. i wouldnt be mad about this changes. more the opposite. Man, idea is that's there's alot of content that's not working since 0.68 (when it was approved in the game in the working state, the were cutted of back to non op, but still in the game's files). That's small "tweaks" like adding old styled SVD (with wooden furniture) is the useless. Game has: 4 trucks (op only 1, 3 V3S and Kamaz named as Truck_02), Transit Bus (Ikarus 256, not working), two Vans (not working). Firearms: inpack the Weapons_Firearms and explore all elements, oh did you've seen the M249 & PKM in the game? - Right me 2 didn't seen it (Not working same as Mauser C96) and so on... To be honest i think the community is understood that the DZ is a "hall of void" and BI is the company that's can't make interesting projects (only give a plans and forgot about them) in reality it's called: "pumping money out of the community, for this DZ is suitable like nothing else." anymore coz what do i see is only - canceled or not working and when it will be returned no one knows (supposed to be never returned). And it will not stopping anywhen, how long do we hearing from BI "we will, blah-blah-blah" and what's in return - void. So remove your pink glasses and awake from the sleep. Already passed: 6 years - 13 December 2018 release date of 1.00 and game was published in steam (old engine) 16 December of 2013. And what do we have: hopes, expectations and still beta game version called as "release". 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzplayer1234 34 Posted January 18 (edited) On 1/17/2025 at 8:46 PM, etwas said: some people actually appreciate these changes in the VANILLA game. the reduction of slots made perfect sense, so is the introduction of attachment slots for backpacks. whats wrong about it? u can still use unbalanced modded backpacks with 120 slots and 2 rifle slots on top of it. but i prefer the way the devs balanced it. so they improved the sound environment and this is.... bad? the sounds between footsteps and kinda ALL other sound effects were quite unbalanced for many years. i wouldnt be mad about this changes. more the opposite. On 1/17/2025 at 8:46 PM, etwas said: some people actually appreciate these changes in the VANILLA game. the reduction of slots made perfect sense, so is the introduction of attachment slots for backpacks. whats wrong about it? u can still use unbalanced modded backpacks with 120 slots and 2 rifle slots on top of it. but i prefer the way the devs balanced it. so they improved the sound environment and this is.... bad? the sounds between footsteps and kinda ALL other sound effects were quite unbalanced for many years. i wouldnt be mad about this changes. more the opposite. Im not saying its a bad update...im just saying why does it take them YEARS to do that? these updates that they are releasing should have been implemented in the game LONG time ago to make the game more enjoyable and better balanced. Its relativly minor update aswel. why it Takes them literal years to realize footstep sounds could use reworking( which could have resolved by a day or 2 of testing the sounds )? Also inventory update could have been done alongside the new bags they recently released ( also way too late ) . Seems they just are stretching out updates so they look like they are actualy doing something. Joke of a development team. Edited January 18 by dayzplayer1234 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etwas 147 Posted January 18 On 1/18/2025 at 9:26 AM, Sid Debian said: Man, idea is that's there's alot of content that's not working since 0.68 (when it was approved in the game in the working state, the were cutted of back to non op, but still in the game's files). That's small "tweaks" like adding old styled SVD (with wooden furniture) is the useless. Game has: 4 trucks (op only 1, 3 V3S and Kamaz named as Truck_02), Transit Bus (Ikarus 256, not working), two Vans (not working). Firearms: inpack the Weapons_Firearms and explore all elements, oh did you've seen the M249 & PKM in the game? - Right me 2 didn't seen it (Not working same as Mauser C96) and so on... well this topic is about the update and its changes. dunno how that is in any way relevant. maybe just dont buy games in alpha state, and dont ignore the huge disclaimer that always popped up when u started the game. On 1/18/2025 at 9:26 AM, Sid Debian said: So remove your pink glasses and awake from the sleep. Already passed: 6 years - 13 December 2018 release date of 1.00 and game was published in steam (old engine) 16 December of 2013. And what do we have: hopes, expectations and still beta game version called as "release". this makes no sense in regards to my reply to dayzplayer1234. i never spoke about the general development of the game (and im tired of it). i only pointed out TWO things (inventory slots/attachments and sound changes) dayzplayer1234 got mad about. On 1/18/2025 at 11:37 AM, dayzplayer1234 said: Im not saying its a bad update...im just saying why does it take them YEARS to do that? these updates that they are releasing should have been implemented in the game LONG time ago to make the game more enjoyable and better balanced. Its relativly minor update aswel. why it Takes them literal years to realize footstep sounds could use reworking( which could have resolved by a day or 2 of testing the sounds )? Also inventory update could have been done alongside the new bags they recently released ( also way too late ) . Seems they just are stretching out updates so they look like they are actualy doing something. Joke of a development team. yes it took them a long time. but now it happened. we cant travel back in time and speed things up/make it better. get over it. this is just moaning really. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DefectiveWater 542 Posted January 18 (edited) On 1/18/2025 at 11:37 AM, dayzplayer1234 said: Im not saying its a bad update...im just saying why does it take them YEARS to do that? these updates that they are releasing should have been implemented in the game LONG time ago to make the game more enjoyable and better balanced. Its relativly minor update aswel. why it Takes them literal years to realize footstep sounds could use reworking( which could have resolved by a day or 2 of testing the sounds )? Also inventory update could have been done alongside the new bags they recently released ( also way too late ) . Seems they just are stretching out updates so they look like they are actualy doing something. Joke of a development team. I see your point and I think it might boil down to lack of developers. While DayZ team is bigger than a couple of years ago, they are just now catching up with some things that were left on the shelf and collecting dust. They are also clearly working on some bigger stuff that isn't ready yet. To me, the patch seems not that interesting there are many minor changes - I love the addition of the input window to the mouse sensitivity slider. I personally took a break from the game and I'll probably come back to it once something major changes. I'm still waiting on that AI rework or gunplay rework which tbh wasn't promised, but it's due time it got an overhaul (should have happened at the same time inertia got added to completely change up the feel of the game). Edited January 18 by DefectiveWater Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzplayer1234 34 Posted January 20 This is something a modder is working on probly on free time. While Dayz devs can't even properly work on sounds. https://www.reddit.com/r/dayz/s/CxHaZot2tm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzplayer1234 34 Posted January 20 (edited) On 1/18/2025 at 11:56 AM, etwas said: well this topic is about the update and its changes. dunno how that is in any way relevant. maybe just dont buy games in alpha state, and dont ignore the huge disclaimer that always popped up when u started the game. Are you an idiot? Jeah..bought game in alpha...after 11 years...game still plays like alpha...after ALL This time ...we get updates that were due 7 years ago. Jeah...don't buy a game in alpha since it's going to be in alpha for 20 years. Several next gen game titles(including indie developers who work on games after their 9 to 5 ) have started development and released in that time...while dayz is still tweaking around with sound and backbag space. So dayz and bohemia interactive are a joke. Edited January 20 by dayzplayer1234 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gooie 1 Posted January 20 (edited) Dear Dayz Team, Can i say a BIG thanks for all your work through the years. I've been playing since it's ARMA mod days, & it still is my go to game. I'm mainly writing in response to many of the comments above (from 12 year olds I guess?) i.e. ... [Ironic] **Fantastic work. Bravo**. Lazy bastards, FFS, etc. Hopefully you don't need to be reminded that silent majority still loves this game and your ongoing, successful, efforts to improve it. For every 1,000 people there will always be 10-20 who will be rude, child-like, inconsiderate, very self-centered; and will complain at the drop of a hat. - I can understand if they see issues, issues need to be discussed, but can't understand the rudeness of the submissions. Why not stay civil? That leaves hundreds of people - such as myself - who usually don't write in these forums, & usually stay quiet when they witness poor behavior from some of our fellow players. On behalf of the overwhelming majority & myself, I say a big thanks to you all +++ (This experimental version is working fine for me btw. 😉 Edited January 20 by gooie 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzplayer1234 34 Posted January 20 (edited) On 1/20/2025 at 4:43 AM, gooie said: Dear Dayz Team, Can i say a BIG thanks for all your work through the years. I've been playing since it's ARMA mod days, & it still is my go to game. I'm mainly writing in response to many of the comments above (from 12 year olds I guess?) i.e. ... [Ironic] **Fantastic work. Bravo**. Lazy bastards, FFS, etc. Hopefully you don't need to be reminded that silent majority still loves this game and your ongoing, successful, efforts to improve it. For every 1,000 people there will always be 10-20 who will be rude, child-like, inconsiderate, very self-centered; and will complain at the drop of a hat. - I can understand if they see issues, issues need to be discussed, but can't understand the rudeness of the submissions. Why not stay civil? That leaves hundreds of people - such as myself - who usually don't write in these forums, & usually stay quiet when they witness poor behavior from some of our fellow players. On behalf of the overwhelming majority & myself, I say a big thanks to you all +++ (This experimental version is working fine for me btw. 😉 what? is this an account made by dayz devs ? or you seriously think its OKAY to sell empty promises, a broken game and seemingly really lazy/slow development? Or even better...lets make it a trend in gaming development (kinda like horse armor incident ) that its okay to sell a game on empty promises alone. While keeping up appearance ( like constant updates )when actually the bare minimum amount of effort is put into the development. Fairly simple things like sounds and inventory space is road mapped to be a 2-3 year old development progress internally. (and that even seems half assed at best) They are milking it not developing it. Community servers are probly most likely reason this game is still alive and has a playerbase that attracts new buyers. PS: I also got into dayz in the mod dayz...purchased the game on early access to support the development since there wasnt any good zombie survival games and DAYZ seemed to be set for success( kept up with it from time to time to see how things are going ) ...waited years...there were nice changes made, ideas pitched and ofcourse understandably some setbacks to development. BUT now when looking back and comparing the early to now.... THIS IS JUST UNACCEPTABLE AND LAZY WORK BY BOHEMIA... content still broken , missing more stuff now then early/mod time, unbalanced gameplay . Things that could be easily tested internally for example the god-damn sounds ...is dragged out, takes years to see an issue with it or simply not done at all. Community suggestions ( some being really good and most likely do-able ) being ignored. Now they just go on steam workshop and download/edit mods for the base game and sell us re-worked, unbalanced maps that are not even the very least thought trough when releasing ´them. So tell me again how they are doing a great job? Edited January 20 by dayzplayer1234 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etwas 147 Posted January 20 On 1/20/2025 at 1:24 AM, dayzplayer1234 said: Are you an idiot? Jeah..bought game in alpha...after 11 years...game still plays like alpha...after ALL This time ...we get updates that were due 7 years ago. but you're still here after this long time? and im the idiot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzplayer1234 34 Posted January 20 (edited) On 1/20/2025 at 12:56 PM, etwas said: but you're still here after this long time? and im the idiot? Yes, you are an idiot. And im here to criticize it since..... I will make it simple for you: " ITS NOT OKAY FOR A GAME DEVELOPMENT STUDIO TO SELL EMPTY PROMISES" (they are doing the bare minimum of development to not seem like a scam ) I think its a little harsh to call you an idiot...so let me educate instead: Do you think its okay to also sell another DLC ? maybe so ...more funding hopefully = more development. BUT the DLC they released and asked money for AGAIN! Is simply "half-assed" and seems like its not properly thought through. They now make patches and add content that should have been there since the release of the said DLC. ( Only reason they might have bothered adding to it this quicly is most likely the negative backlash they received ) So releasing broken, lacking and unbalanced content while asking money for it is OKAY by your standards ? Besides the main game has soo many issues needing to be adressed. Edited January 20 by dayzplayer1234 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etwas 147 Posted January 20 On 1/20/2025 at 1:30 PM, dayzplayer1234 said: Yes, you are an idiot. And im here to criticize it since..... I will make it simple for you: " ITS NOT OKAY FOR A GAME DEVELOPMENT STUDIO TO SELL EMPTY PROMISES" (they are doing the bare minimum of development to not seem like a scam ) apart from the broken infected a.i. which they wanted to work over 2 years ago, can u name this promises? and please dont do promises from previous devs during alpha, which are long gone, while they didnt have to work on this hybrid of engine. so go ahead. name a thing after 2018 release. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzplayer1234 34 Posted January 20 (edited) On 1/20/2025 at 1:41 PM, etwas said: apart from the broken infected a.i. which they wanted to work over 2 years ago, can u name this promises? and please dont do promises from previous devs during alpha, which are long gone, while they didnt have to work on this hybrid of engine. so go ahead. name a thing after 2018 release. added edit to my previous response. but you answered quite quicly. I think its a little harsh to call you an idiot...so let me educate instead: Do you think its okay to also sell another DLC ? maybe so ...more funding hopefully = more development. BUT the DLC they released and asked money for AGAIN! Is simply "half-assed" and seems like its not properly thought through. They now make patches and add content that should have been there since the release of the said DLC. ( Only reason they might have bothered adding to it this quicly is most likely the negative backlash they received ) So releasing broken, lacking and unbalanced content while asking money for it is OKAY by your standards ? Besides the main game has soo many issues needing to be adressed. Edited January 20 by dayzplayer1234 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
etwas 147 Posted January 20 so u couldnt name a single thing of this "empty promises". devs are lazy/slow and copy/paste mods from the workshop is all u say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzplayer1234 34 Posted January 20 On 1/20/2025 at 1:57 PM, etwas said: so u couldnt name a single thing of this "empty promises". devs are lazy/slow and copy/paste mods from the workshop is all u say. i take it back. You are an actual idiot, Dayz itself is a big "empty promise " by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riddick_2K 186 Posted January 20 (edited) On 1/20/2025 at 4:43 AM, gooie said: Hopefully you don't need to be reminded that silent majority still loves this game and your ongoing, successful, efforts to improve it. The vast majority of players play on community servers, Vanilla or Modded... precisely because the original Vanilla game is full of bugs, shortcomings, absurd and "castrating" settings and without any real protection for cheaters. (only to list everything, not to expand the complaints). If it weren't for the mods, the game, as proposed and managed by the B.I., I fear would already be dead... or at least dying. On 1/20/2025 at 4:43 AM, gooie said: On behalf of the overwhelming majority & myself, I say a big thanks to you all +++ Who elected you "representative of the majority"? You yourself? 🙄 Edited January 20 by Riddick_2K 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
merropa93 106 Posted January 20 On 1/17/2025 at 5:19 PM, Veronica Wisenbarger said: So why isn’t Sakhal on Xbox if it’s live? How do any of these changes even come close to affecting Livonia or chernarus aside from the backpack slot. Reinstalled experimental just to try it and there’s no Sakhal servers at all. SMH oh that’s right. Experimental still doesn’t seem to recognize we own the dlc. Fantastic work. Bravo Hello, Sakhal is not on Xbox Experimental; that's why it's not in the Xbox patch notes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
merropa93 106 Posted January 20 On 1/20/2025 at 2:03 PM, dayzplayer1234 said: i take it back. You are an actual idiot, Dayz itself is a big "empty promise " by now. Please keep it civil; you have the right to speak your opinion, but so does everyone else. If you're going to continue insulting others, you'll lose your right to express yourself on the forum. Thank you for understanding. PS: Seeing how you react, Im just going to say: No, you are not warned because of your opinions on BI and devs. You are warned for being aggressive to another member who doesn't agree with you and you are insulting him. If your behavior towards others continues in this manner, you'll be banned without another warning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blueshorts44 47 Posted January 20 Thank you for reworking the subsonic sounds. I think i may have suggested this 2 years ago. Sounds good! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayzplayer1234 34 Posted January 20 On 1/20/2025 at 3:08 PM, merropa93 said: Please keep it civil; you have the right to speak your opinion, but so does everyone else. If you're going to continue insulting others, you'll lose your right to express yourself on the forum. Thank you for understanding. PS: Seeing how you react, Im just going to say: No, you are not warned because of your opinions on BI and devs. You are warned for being aggressive to another member who doesn't agree with you and you are insulting him. If your behavior towards others continues in this manner, you'll be banned without another warning. Seems like a setup for exactly this or just taking advantage of the situation. I was not any means being aggressive towards the person. As said its my right ( statet by yourself) to express my opinion. My opinion being " slap to the face (he/she/it or whatever lghbg+) is being an idiot and not really considering my answers and escalating on them instead. I would not mind having an intelligent argument over this but simply nit-picking on words is an " idiotic behaviour, defined as stupid also" specially considering im not a native english speaker and might not have the "proper terminology" for everything. So conclusion being he might have been acting purpousfully to try and " provoke" this warning response. To be cleat .it was not an act of aggression. It can be considered a minor insult at the very best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
merropa93 106 Posted January 20 On 1/20/2025 at 3:30 PM, dayzplayer1234 said: Seems like a setup for exactly this or just taking advantage of the situation. I was not any means being aggressive towards the person. As said its my right ( statet by yourself) to express my opinion. My opinion being " slap to the face (he/she/it or whatever lghbg+) is being an idiot and not really considering my answers and escalating on them instead. I would not mind having an intelligent argument over this but simply nit-picking on words is an " idiotic behaviour, defined as stupid also" specially considering im not a native english speaker and might not have the "proper terminology" for everything. So conclusion being he might have been acting purpousfully to try and " provoke" this warning response. To be cleat .it was not an act of aggression. It can be considered a minor insult at the very best. I understand, but the other person could say the same thing, as having different opinions might seem to some people as provoking. Im not going to argue with you and I don't care how are you justifying it as "idiotic behavior, defined as stupid also" term. You didn't use this; you said idiot twice. Im not natively English speaking as well. Don't blame it on terminology; your vocabulary is rich enough for what I've seen so far, so avoid insulting. If you're being provoked or insulted, report it, but don't solve it by escalating the situation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites