Stop Duping items

[DayzImprovement 0]

I Had an idea of possibly having a couple of servers of which you are not allowed to server hop.

Server hopping is an essential part of the current netcut/arcai router method of duplication.

I feel duplication methods really ruin the game experience and put a lot of people off the game.

What do you all think?

Would this work?

[damca 11]

I think it would be better to report detailed methods of duplication to the devs using the feedback tracker (privately ofc), I am pretty sure that they will do something about it. This could definitely work as a temporary solution though, however it would need to be added to every official server in order for it to have some effect.

[Sean_87__ 57]

I think all official servers should be 1 character per server. No traveling between servers with the same character. Each server is independent from one another.

[General Zod 1118]

On 11/2/2023 at 9:27 PM, Sean_87__ said:

I think all official servers should be 1 character per server. No traveling between servers with the same character. Each server is independent from one another.

As if people will go start fresh when the server on which they have a geared player or even a base is full. They'll just go play something else. Another idea to fix broken in game mechanics by punishing rule abiding players. 

[Sean_87__ 57]

2 hours ago, General Zod said:

As if people will go start fresh when the server on which they have a geared player or even a base is full. They'll just go play something else. Another idea to fix broken in game mechanics by punishing rule abiding players. 

How does that punish players? You get 1 character per server. Each server has its own player progression.

[General Zod 1118]

20 hours ago, Sean_87__ said:

How does that punish players? You get 1 character per server. Each server has its own player progression.

By wasting my time, forcing me to spend hours to have multiple geared characters. Which on top of cheaters, and dying to random bugs such as cars or falling from heights when I try to climb is wasting even more time. This no different than trying to add log out zones to stop combat logging, another over the top solution. Duping items shouldn't be possible in the first place, it is and devs should fix it. What we shouldn't do is force players to start fresh when their server isn't accessible for whatever reason simply because of another problem with the game itself. 

[Sean_87__ 57]

4 hours ago, General Zod said:

By wasting my time, forcing me to spend hours to have multiple geared characters. Which on top of cheaters, and dying to random bugs such as cars or falling from heights when I try to climb is wasting even more time. This no different than trying to add log out zones to stop combat logging, another over the top solution. Duping items shouldn't be possible in the first place, it is and devs should fix it. What we shouldn't do is force players to start fresh when their server isn't accessible for whatever reason simply because of another problem with the game itself. 

It’s not a punishment. You have 1 character per server. Stop server hopping.

[General Zod 1118]

21 hours ago, Sean_87__ said:

It’s not a punishment. You have 1 character per server. Stop server hopping.

It is a punishment, I and many other players don't have the time or won't invest the time to gear up several different characters simply because the game allows exploits.

Exploits should be eliminated by fixing whatever makes them possible in the first place, not by restricting rule abiding players. If I want to play with 2 of my friends and the server on which we normally play has 30 people queue we won't want to each start fresh on a new server on a different side of the map. If you want to stop duping get devs to patch the part of the game code that allows duping. 

I'm glad devs ignore suggestions like this, and we had a lot of stupid ideas here over the years, the game not starting unless you have a mic, anti cheat system that constantly views what processes run on your pc, just to name couple. 

[Sean_87__ 57]

It’s not a punishment. If you choose different server to play, then you have different character in that server.

[General Zod 1118]

You did nothing wrong but some people do use in game exploits to duplicate items so you're denied access to all the progress you made in the game because the server you want to play is full or laggy at the moment. And that's because instead of fixing the underlying issues we decided to place a blanket restriction on everyone. 

That's like a exam board at uni saying that because few students cheated on their finals everyone will be forced to retake their exams with different questions. 

The sins of the few should not enforce restrictions on the many. 

Edited November 8, 2023 by General Zod

[Sean_87__ 57]

17 hours ago, General Zod said:

You did nothing wrong but some people do use in game exploits to duplicate items so you're denied access to all the progress you made in the game because the server you want to play is full or laggy at the moment. And that's because instead of fixing the underlying issues we decided to place a blanket restriction on everyone. 

That's like a exam board at uni saying that because few students cheated on their finals everyone will be forced to retake their exams with different questions. 

The sins of the few should not enforce restrictions on the many. 

That isn’t anything close to what I have said. You have failed to read, comprehend, and appropriately respond with a rebuttal.

[General Zod 1118]

5 hours ago, Sean_87__ said:

That isn’t anything close to what I have said. You have failed to read, comprehend, and appropriately respond with a rebuttal.

I comprehend well enough, you want to limit everyone to one character per server because few people break the rules and use exploits to copy items.

I am against placing any and all restrictions on players simply because the game was coding issues that allow such exploits to exist. 

My rebuttal is that the part of the game code that allows such exploits should be rewritten is such manner that those exploits are no longer possible rather than enforcing limitation on rule abiding players.

 

[Sean_87__ 57]

Negative. Characters should not carry over server to server, period. Each server is different and should be treated as such. 

[General Zod 1118]

On 11/10/2023 at 3:43 AM, Sean_87__ said:

Negative. Characters should not carry over server to server, period. Each server is different and should be treated as such. 

Clearly not since the characters do carry over. But thanks for playing. 

[Sean_87__ 57]

7 hours ago, General Zod said:

Clearly not since the characters do carry over. But thanks for playing. 

Try to follow the conversation before commenting. I was referring to how it should be. You have been involved in the conversation for days and forgot what it was about? Lay off the booze or whatever you are doing to disrupt your thought process.

[General Zod 1118]

1 hour ago, Sean_87__ said:

Try to follow the conversation before commenting. I was referring to how it should be. You have been involved in the conversation for days and forgot what it was about? Lay off the booze or whatever you are doing to disrupt your thought process.

I am following the conversation. If the characters can move between them then they are not treated as different and / or separate. And it's a good thing the devs don't see it that way. Just because you think that's how it should be doesn't make it the right solution to the problem of duping. And the only thing I'm gonna lay off is continuing this conversation. 

[Sean_87__ 57]

17 hours ago, General Zod said:

I am following the conversation. If the characters can move between them then they are not treated as different and / or separate. And it's a good thing the devs don't see it that way. Just because you think that's how it should be doesn't make it the right solution to the problem of duping. And the only thing I'm gonna lay off is continuing this conversation. 

It’s not just about duping, that’s just a side effect. I believe every server should be treated as individual servers, just like community by the way, one character per server. You should not have the ability to jump in a server you have never played and start off fully geared. It literally makes no sense with the games design.