Hand to hand combat improvements

[AmbientHorror 0]

How does everyone feel about the current state of hand to hand combat? 
Would survivors like to see some more in depth combat such as fencing/countering punches?

a far shot but maybe some grappling for an extra intense fight 

I’m just spitballing here, but what would you guys like to see in regards of hand to hand PVP? 

[Pyongo Bongo 250]

It bothers me that head-punches don't help with knocking people out.

All you can do is deplete your stamina meter, then spam mouse 1 and hope your enemy doesnt fight back if they have a gun.

Headshots should do extra shock damage and punches to the legs should have a chance to break them.

Whenever i try to break someones legs with melee they just die.

[David brinkman 0]

Grappling players would be a sweet mechanic but I'm guessing it's not going to be easy to implement. Player knife stealth kills or a rear choke hold to knock the player uncon without creating much noise would be nice. Countering is kind of already there with the side step, it's just not easy to execute. 

[Buakaw 275]

here is an improvement: remove the new system entirely and bring back the old system. add blocking. finito.

melee was literally more fun and more skillful in old versions. locked animations anything will never be fun gameplay. why cant I sprint while swinging my knife? but I can jog while eating my beans. makes sense.. NOT

[David brinkman 0]

You can block by walking back with your hands up.

[Buakaw 275]

5 hours ago, David brinkman said:

You can block by walking back with your hands up.

I said: bring back the old system. You couldn't block with the old system. Hence, old system + block >>>>> whatever we currently have. also, again:

why cant I sprint while swinging my knife? but I can jog while eating my beans. makes sense