would you stop nerfing the Vss/AS-Val

[desolate-master 10]

in rl these weapons are fully capable pf piercing all known body armors (with the possible exception of dragonscale but no one can afford it) and all the ammo it fires s AP there is no standard ammo.

in dayz the vss/val started off with the lowest bullet velocity in the game which for a sniper rifle/dmr is one hell of a handicap to start with its only saving grace was AP ammo and the ability to go full auto.

in every patch you have nerfed the hell out of this weapon making it less and less viable and in the latest patch you have utterly destroyed it, it now does less damage than a smg and it's one and only saving grace (the ability to ignore plate carriers/gorka helms) has all but been removed on top of the fact it still has the lowest bullet velocity of any weapon.

i know you hate the fact that there was something that could defeat your god tier'd plate carrier armor but to destroy what is a exceptional rl wep this badly feels just petty (it dosent even get the shock damage afforded to all other weps ffs it does less than the scorpion).

Edited June 26, 2021 by desolate-master
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[nemorus 265]

It's fine. Those are all semi-silenced bb guns in dayz world. If you want some real firepower, get yourself a trumpet that can send to sleep a freshie from like 200 meters away. 9x39 is only dangerous in stalker games...

[-Gews- 7443]

On 6/25/2021 at 5:08 PM, desolate-master said:

in rl these weapons are fully capable pf piercing all known body armors (with the possible exception of dragonscale but no one can afford it) and all the ammo it fires s AP there is no standard ammo.

Not true, the armour-piercing 9x39 only pierces soft armour (which stops handgun rounds), it's easily stopped by hard plates (which stop all rifle rounds in game). It's designed to penetrate things like flak jackets from the 1980s, not modern body armour. And yes, there is "standard ammo" as well as AP.

 

On 6/25/2021 at 5:08 PM, desolate-master said:

in every patch you have nerfed the hell out of this weapon making it less and less viable and in the latest patch you have utterly destroyed it, it now does less damage than a smg and it's one and only saving grace (the ability to ignore plate carriers/gorka helms) has all but been removed on top of the fact it still has the lowest bullet velocity of any weapon.

Not true, it does almost double the damage of an SMG. The 9x39 has a big bullet but is not a very powerful round.

The one thing where it's unfair is the rate of fire which is only 600 rpm when it should be 900+. And then the fact which applies to most guns... that apart from headshot, you can't kill someone with a single bullet.

[EzyStriderPS4 191]

I would really like to see the developers push their perspective on guns from "balancing" efforts to realistic, simulation ballistics.  Some weapons should be much stronger than others.

 I would expect a .308 round to kill an un-armored survivor up to 500m-600m.  In version 1.12 I believe the NATO round is able to kill up to 300m or so.  I feel that the shock damage is a little excessive also.  The plate carrier finally feels the way it should.  Maybe make it rare like NVG (5 per map).  

OR:  What if only the tier 4 military infected spawn with a plate carrier?  You have to acquire armor from them with lethal force.

In addition, maybe increase suppressed sound radius up to 500m?

[Parazight 1599]

The team has stated that balancing favored encounters that don't end in one-shot kills.   The game can't have realistic statistics and this preferred meta.  

On 6/25/2021 at 7:08 PM, desolate-master said:

in every patch you have nerfed the hell out of this weapon making it less and less viable and in the latest patch you have utterly destroyed it,

I think when we evaluate the power level of a weapon we have to consider more than just ballistics.  There are many examples.  Deagles are bad because 357 ammo isn't plentiful.  The SVAL just got a huge buff because ATOGx6 is being introduced.  NATO rifles got a huge buff with M16 + new acog.  The AKs are still better, in my opinion, because of the 1PN51.  Especially on PC, where we don't get infinite extra toons/accounts NOT getting one-shot is needed.  The VSS/SVAL is also really great at dumping all those  9x39 rounds in to base walls.  

SVAL/VSS are great weapons for clearing military areas and traveling, they're well-rounded on vanilla servers.  They do their job just fine.  If you're gearing up to fight players, where the real stats matter, shouldn't you be using M16 or LAR now? 

Burst Mode > Armor Piercing.  no?