Tomwa 0 Posted October 26, 2015 Hey everyone, I've been looking at various zombie MMO-like games, and while the "MMO" aspect itself isn't particularly attractive I like the general idea of the game. I wasn't able to find a FAQ (Maybe I'm just blind, but I really did try) and I have some questions before I purchase: - Is the game being regularly updated? If yes, what is the average time between updates? I was looking at "The Dead Linger" but it seems to be suffering from a developer who is spread between many projects.- Does this game have any form of "Pay to win"? (This includes any form of purchasable weaponry, even by gambling/random chance setups, if you can pay money and get an item that could be beneficial (i.e. Food, weapons, etc.) then it is pay-to-win) This put me off of H1Z1 with their loot crates.- Is the game able to render many zombies at once? I have a relatively powerful PC (AMD Radeon 390X, Core i7 6700K @ 5GHz, 32GB of 3200MHz DDR4, etc.) so I'm not worried about graphics lag. Project Zomboid can render many Zombies given it's 2D-like isometric style, I've yet to see a 3D Game capable of rendering many zombies.- From what I've read the standalone version varies greatly from the original Mod, If I want new versions do I get the standalone version or the mod? Which is being updated more frequently? Is it worth owning Arma II to play DayZ or am I fine with the Standalone version?- Is the Multiplayer community overly aggressive? Am I going to struggle with zombies or is some guy with an assault rifle going to run up and blow my head off every time I spawn?And I'm fully aware of the Early Access status, I don't care if the game has bugs/instability so long as it is generally playable and the game is being consistently updated. A lot of my perceptions come from Let's Plays of H1Z1 and I'm not sure if they carry over.If my questions have been answered in some kind of FAQ/Planned or Implemented Features List/Mod-Standalone comparison type of page I apologize again for missing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted October 26, 2015 - Is the game being regularly updated? If yes, what is the average time between updates? I was looking at "The Dead Linger" but it seems to be suffering from a developer who is spread between many projects. Yes, it's being regularly updated, look in the "Official" section for more information about updates, both game and status reports by the devs:https://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/forum/136-official/ - Does this game have any form of "Pay to win"? No. And it is strictly forbidden for, for example, server-owners to try to introduce any attempt of this and will be followed legally. - Is the game able to render many zombies at once? I have a relatively powerful PC (AMD Radeon 390X, Core i7 6700K @ 5GHz, 32GB of 3200MHz DDR4, etc.) so I'm not worried about graphics lag. Project Zomboid can render many Zombies given it's 2D-like isometric style, I've yet to see a 3D Game capable of rendering many zombies. Don't expect the game to work flawlessly at 60 FPS constantly, this is why it's still in Alpha. There are still performance-concerns, but it's being worked on at the moment and I personally have seen a lot of improvement over time. At this point in time there aren't many zombies in the game, if any. This is due to how the development works, but work is being done on the zombie-part to have them improved and in huge numbers - which is the ultimate goal of development. - From what I've read the standalone version varies greatly from the original Mod, If I want new versions do I get the standalone version or the mod? Which is being updated more frequently? Is it worth owning Arma II to play DayZ or am I fine with the Standalone version? It is always worth owning ARMA 2 and its expansions, as the Multiplayer-Community is very much still alive. Whilst we're not currently pushing out updates for the mod on a regular basis, there are still a few very active and almost always full servers - and there are still other mods and missions and gamemodes one can play. - Is the Multiplayer community overly aggressive? Am I going to struggle with zombies or is some guy with an assault rifle going to run up and blow my head off every time I spawn? I wish I could tell you something different, but it'd be a lie. The community is fairly aggressive and you will most likely end up being frustrated more than once, but if you do your best to be one of the good guys, good things will happen to you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noctoras 409 Posted October 26, 2015 Hey everyone, I've been looking at various zombie MMO-like games, and while the "MMO" aspect itself isn't particularly attractive I like the general idea of the game. I wasn't able to find a FAQ (Maybe I'm just blind, but I really did try) and I have some questions before I purchase: - Is the game being regularly updated? If yes, what is the average time between updates? I was looking at "The Dead Linger" but it seems to be suffering from a developer who is spread between many projects.- Does this game have any form of "Pay to win"? (This includes any form of purchasable weaponry, even by gambling/random chance setups, if you can pay money and get an item that could be beneficial (i.e. Food, weapons, etc.) then it is pay-to-win) This put me off of H1Z1 with their loot crates.- Is the game able to render many zombies at once? I have a relatively powerful PC (AMD Radeon 390X, Core i7 6700K @ 5GHz, 32GB of 3200MHz DDR4, etc.) so I'm not worried about graphics lag. Project Zomboid can render many Zombies given it's 2D-like isometric style, I've yet to see a 3D Game capable of rendering many zombies.- From what I've read the standalone version varies greatly from the original Mod, If I want new versions do I get the standalone version or the mod? Which is being updated more frequently? Is it worth owning Arma II to play DayZ or am I fine with the Standalone version?- Is the Multiplayer community overly aggressive? Am I going to struggle with zombies or is some guy with an assault rifle going to run up and blow my head off every time I spawn?And I'm fully aware of the Early Access status, I don't care if the game has bugs/instability so long as it is generally playable and the game is being consistently updated. A lot of my perceptions come from Let's Plays of H1Z1 and I'm not sure if they carry over.If my questions have been answered in some kind of FAQ/Planned or Implemented Features List/Mod-Standalone comparison type of page I apologize again for missing it. 1. regularly updated, but the time between updates can easily be around 2 months. 2. no pay to win elements included or planned. 3. currently there are no zombies at all (major game breaker in my opinion), so the game for the moment has become a dull casual PvP shooter with too big a map. Zeds will be back, but I do have doubts that the game will move away from the kill on sigh slugfest - most of the people who like interaction have left the game already, thus you might not find many of these on the forums anymore. 4. I am no mod player, so I leave this up to the people playing it. 5. Most likely the latter. There is currently absolutely nothing to do in the game apart from gear-kill-die-repeat. If you are new to the game, more often than not you will sooner or later just see a black screen telling you that you are dead. Interaction is pretty much non-existant and many people looking for the sandbox survival type of game have moved on to other games. That said, there are some left also on this board, so they might give you further insight there. Currently I would not recommend getting into DayZ and I doubt the game will ever be a sandbox or survival game in its meaning. But you will hear people telling you to buy it as well for sure. Take your time and also look up the steam player numbers, though - they might give you an indcation about how many people left or remain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomwa 0 Posted October 26, 2015 Good to hear that the game won't have pay-to-win! I'm not concerned about getting 60fps constantly (I normally cap my games at 43FPS anyways) and I do understand that Alpha gameplay can follow a sort of: Implement -> Optimize -> Improve cycle. Sometime that means removing a feature to improve it (Project Zomboid did this with NPCs), that being said a zombie game without zombies is a little disappointed. Based on the status reports (I didn't even realize there was an announcement section! Google brought me to DayZ PC and I just assumed it was the highest level of the forum!) I've read there seems to be decent communication with the community (Bi-weekly is fine by me) and I don't consider two months to be too long for an update (Though monthly is better, even if they aren't perfect).I don't have the money for Arma II and DayZ right now so I'll just get the Standalone for the time being. The reviews are positive on steam and it does seem like the devs are communicating relatively well with the community. Hopefully this won't turn into a "Double Fine Spacebase DF-9" type of ordeal where the game is never finished. I'm more than willing to pay additional money in to support the game so long as development is consistent, communcation is forthcoming, and the developers focus on this product alone (i.e. No side projects until this one nears completion).I appreciate all the answers above me! I was certainly surprised to find no zombies in DayZ! I guess it's just Day for the time being ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KenoSkir88 181 Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) Hey everyone, I've been looking at various zombie MMO-like games, and while the "MMO" aspect itself isn't particularly attractive I like the general idea of the game. I wasn't able to find a FAQ (Maybe I'm just blind, but I really did try) and I have some questions before I purchase: - Is the game being regularly updated? If yes, what is the average time between updates? I was looking at "The Dead Linger" but it seems to be suffering from a developer who is spread between many projects.- Does this game have any form of "Pay to win"? (This includes any form of purchasable weaponry, even by gambling/random chance setups, if you can pay money and get an item that could be beneficial (i.e. Food, weapons, etc.) then it is pay-to-win) This put me off of H1Z1 with their loot crates.- Is the game able to render many zombies at once? I have a relatively powerful PC (AMD Radeon 390X, Core i7 6700K @ 5GHz, 32GB of 3200MHz DDR4, etc.) so I'm not worried about graphics lag. Project Zomboid can render many Zombies given it's 2D-like isometric style, I've yet to see a 3D Game capable of rendering many zombies.- From what I've read the standalone version varies greatly from the original Mod, If I want new versions do I get the standalone version or the mod? Which is being updated more frequently? Is it worth owning Arma II to play DayZ or am I fine with the Standalone version?- Is the Multiplayer community overly aggressive? Am I going to struggle with zombies or is some guy with an assault rifle going to run up and blow my head off every time I spawn?And I'm fully aware of the Early Access status, I don't care if the game has bugs/instability so long as it is generally playable and the game is being consistently updated. A lot of my perceptions come from Let's Plays of H1Z1 and I'm not sure if they carry over.If my questions have been answered in some kind of FAQ/Planned or Implemented Features List/Mod-Standalone comparison type of page I apologize again for missing it. 1 - Updates happen as and when they're ready. Waits in between can vary in length depending on the issues the dev team face when adding new content and refining features. For instance we've been waiting a fair while for the .59 update but it's to be expected considering the amuunt of content and improvements that are apparently to be added. 2 - Nope, thank god. 3. There are loads of 3d games capable of rendering many zombies, not sure what you're on about there.. Suffice to say DayZ will stress your powerhouse rig because it's not optimised yet. 4. The mod was cool and special in many ways, but i prefer SA already. Arma2 is ok, as is Arma3 if Mil-Sim is your bag. 5. Yes, but you will understand when you play why this is the case. In reality most of us are very friendly. Paranoia makes men do bad things though, all hail DayZ for making us feel so twitchy ;) You'll find a lot of folks on the forums are a bit butt-hurt that DayZ isn't acting like a finished game yet (you can't tell them it's an Alpha Test or they call you a blind fanboy). Don't be put off, the concept and production are still well in advance of any other similar game. I actually suggest you check out THIS forum thread, which is a compilation of peoples in game experiences and will provide a broad cross section of what you can expect to experience in game. Edited October 26, 2015 by KenoSkir88 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surviv0r1969 151 Posted October 26, 2015 1. regularly updated, but the time between updates can easily be around 2 months. 2. no pay to win elements included or planned. 3. currently there are no zombies at all (major game breaker in my opinion), so the game for the moment has become a dull casual PvP shooter with too big a map. Zeds will be back, but I do have doubts that the game will move away from the kill on sigh slugfest - most of the people who like interaction have left the game already, thus you might not find many of these on the forums anymore. 4. I am no mod player, so I leave this up to the people playing it. 5. Most likely the latter. There is currently absolutely nothing to do in the game apart from gear-kill-die-repeat. If you are new to the game, more often than not you will sooner or later just see a black screen telling you that you are dead. Interaction is pretty much non-existant and many people looking for the sandbox survival type of game have moved on to other games. That said, there are some left also on this board, so they might give you further insight there. Currently I would not recommend getting into DayZ and I doubt the game will ever be a sandbox or survival game in its meaning. But you will hear people telling you to buy it as well for sure. Take your time and also look up the steam player numbers, though - they might give you an indcation about how many people left or remain.1= true2= true3= sorta true, z's in novo, rubbish on no interaction (have it everyday)4= me neither5= depend on server your on for z's take a look Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirby12352 67 Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) 1= true2= true3= sorta true, z's in novo, rubbish on no interaction (have it everyday)4= me neither5= depend on server your on for z's take a look Those videos are pretty misleading, as they do not show the amount of zombies that have ever been in stable updates to my knowledge. That's just one experimental update in that video, and hardly represents the actual game. In stable, I have never found a group of zombies larger than 5 or so. In my experience, they've almost always been solitary. However, apparently they're supposed to spawn in greater numbers with this next update. Edited October 26, 2015 by Kirby12352 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surviv0r1969 151 Posted October 26, 2015 Those videos are pretty misleading, as they do not show the amount of zombies that have ever been in stable updates to my knowledge. That's just one experimental update in that video, and hardly represents the actual game. In stable, I have never found a group of zombies larger than 5 or so. In my experience, they've almost always been solitary. However, apparently they're supposed to spawn in greater numbers with this next update.as they did a couple of updates ago, wow you never seen more than 5? really not sure if that good or bad luck lol. one of my other vids im being chased by about 12-15 of them through elektro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffroland 26 Posted October 26, 2015 - Is the game able to render many zombies at once? I have a relatively powerful PC (AMD Radeon 390X, Core i7 6700K @ 5GHz, 32GB of 3200MHz DDR4, etc.) so I'm not worried about graphics lag. Project Zomboid can render many Zombies given it's 2D-like isometric style, I've yet to see a 3D Game capable of rendering many zombies.- From what I've read the standalone version varies greatly from the original Mod, If I want new versions do I get the standalone version or the mod? Which is being updated more frequently? Is it worth owning Arma II to play DayZ or am I fine with the Standalone version?- Is the Multiplayer community overly aggressive? Am I going to struggle with zombies or is some guy with an assault rifle going to run up and blow my head off every time I spawn?And I'm fully aware of the Early Access status, I don't care if the game has bugs/instability so long as it is generally playable and the game is being consistently updated. A lot of my perceptions come from Let's Plays of H1Z1 and I'm not sure if they carry over. The thing About Early Access: It's not just that there's bugs/instability, you'll have to be OK with a game that is still in the middle of an Alpha release. This basically means that the game as it is right now is in no way what the game will be when it's "released". It's been in Alpha for almost two years and it's only taken baby steps of improvement at every update. Yes, the updates are regular, typically once a month or a bit longer. As of right now there are no zombies in the game. They used to be in game and were very crude with only basic AI. They are completely reworking zombies from the ground up including zombie types, animation, AI and behavior etc. Nobody really knows how many zombies it will be able to handle or how many the developers plan on putting in. They are reworking code to handle these things and they probably wont know until some stress tests are run in the future. If you're OK with playing a game that doesn't have zombies presently and that's not even close to being it's "final product", then by all means jump in. Otherwise, just wait a year or so until it's in Beta and should more closely resemble the developer's final product. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirby12352 67 Posted October 26, 2015 as they did a couple of updates ago, wow you never seen more than 5? really not sure if that good or bad luck lol. one of my other vids im being chased by about 12-15 of them through elektro Hmm, that's odd. I haven't been playing for the past couple months though, so I'm mainly going by what others tell me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites