Are vests required for maximized bullet protection?

[jayfkay (DayZ) 185]

Apart from the fact that a plate carrier or press vest are supposed to protect you from bullets to an extent, but are seemingly completely bugged out -

will I take less damage if I wear an assault or hicap or w/e vest over my sweater or not?

 

Seriously considering going just without a vest at the moment.

[Grimey Rick 3417]

Yep, you'll take less damage. However, the chest holster provides the same protection. It's what I always use.

[cash81 506]

Yep, you'll take less damage. However, the chest holster provides the same protection. It's what I always use.

Pretty sure rick uses a hip holster... which is another question in itself, why no hip holsters in game??

[nl 986]

Not long ago I was shot at close range by a shotgun and was wearing a press vest, I took some damage but was not bleeding. Second shot was to the head and I died...

[jayfkay (DayZ) 185]

Yep, you'll take less damage. However, the chest holster provides the same protection. It's what I always use.

 

 

Not long ago I was shot at close range by a shotgun and was wearing a press vest, I took some damage but was not bleeding. Second shot was to the head and I died...

 

Alright, just did a test with some mates on their server. 20 meters, UMP, one shot to the belly. Wore sweater both times. First I was wearing a highcap vest, second try only the sweater.

Damage values were exactly identical both times, read out from admin logs.

 

I also did another test with the plate carrier. 5 meter distance only. One shot to the chest with both AUG and FNX did full damage in both cases, no damage reduction.

Will try to do more testing this weekend.

Edited September 10, 2015 by jayfkay

[Bororm 1156]

The more stuff you have on any slot provides more protection.

[cash81 506]

The more stuff you have on any slot provides more protection.

I heard that as well.

Try vest full of sticks and random objects on top of your sweater. Im sure that would provide more mitigation than the vest alone.

[CornProducts 315]

Honestly, it can be a crap shoot. Supposedly the vest should provide more protection, but with latency the way it is these days, who knows?

 

Case in point: A buddy and I were in Elektro for a pre-character wipe romp. Naturally all attempts at communication degraded immediately into gunfire. I watch my buddy take a shot to the dome with Mosin. He becomes unconscious, but loses no blood and wakes up not bleeding. I, however, take maybe two shots from a P1 pistol and die.  <_<

[Bororm 1156]

Hit boxes are also wonky.  I think the lower abdomen is actually considered part of the legs or something.

 

There's also the situation where when you are carrying something, particularly a rifle, your arms are raised.  So while you may think you're nailing a guy in the chest, you're likely hitting his arms.

 

There's also "spinal damage" which can only be inflicted on some hit boxes.  So again, I believe it may be the upper arms don't take spinal damage, so you have to reduce some one's blood entirely if you're hitting there as opposed to hitting the chest where a person can die from spinal damage a lot quicker.

 

Combine all that with so many other variables like range/ammo type and there's tons of inconsistencies.  So it may be that you still end up dead while wearing a vest in some situations, but there's plenty where it's going to save your life as well.  Layer on as much shit as you can.

[jayfkay (DayZ) 185]

Honestly, it can be a crap shoot. Supposedly the vest should provide more protection, but with latency the way it is these days, who knows?

 

Case in point: A buddy and I were in Elektro for a pre-character wipe romp. Naturally all attempts at communication degraded immediately into gunfire. I watch my buddy take a shot to the dome with Mosin. He becomes unconscious, but loses no blood and wakes up not bleeding. I, however, take maybe two shots from a P1 pistol and die.  <_<

Possibly he got shot into the arms while you got shot into the chest. The p1 is indeed a 2hit kill to the chest or even a onehit kill if upper chest afaik.

Me and my mates tried with identical circumstances. With and without hicap vest, the bellyshot did the same damage both times. I will continue testing on the weekend and post my results by then.

[jayfkay (DayZ) 185]

Have you guys not watched wobos videos? Long time ago he tested it and the results were that the more items in your clothes = the mroe shock damage you take when being hit.

The more stuff you have on any slot provides more protection.

 

 

I heard that as well.

Try vest full of sticks and random objects on top of your sweater. Im sure that would provide more mitigation than the vest alone.

[Bororm 1156]

Have you guys not watched wobos videos? Long time ago he tested it and the results were that the more items in your clothes = the mroe shock damage you take when being hit.

 

Wobos videos are informative but they aren't exactly scientific.  There's so many variables at work with DayZ's crazy damage model, and the devs have confirmed items accept some damage.

[Luftpancake 94]

Press vests protect against rifle rounds, the plate carrier how ever, does not. The plate carrier can take only pistol shots, making it pretty much useless for the common survivor, you have more of a chance of getting hit with a rifle or shotgun than with a pistol. Have a press vest + riders jacket both pristine, and you'll be one hard motherfucker to kill. Tip: Always put pots and pans, protector cases in your vest if you want it to protect against a bit more.

[edwin3 74]

@OP

 

nice little project. Some suggestions: maybe try smaller calibers and/or more distance. iam really sure, that the full platecarrier protects you from some calibers, but cant really say which ones. hitbox can be clarified by checking the vests state - if ruined its been a hit.

 

i love wobos videos, but always keep in mind that they were taken some time ago - i think that some are outdated by now. regarding his results towards bulletpenetration it seems logical that different vests protect from different calibers.

 

one question, what kind of damage can u see in server logs? is it also shock damage?

 

good luck during the weekend, but keep in mind that the devs will implement the new damage system in the coming updates. might be that your results are only valid for a short time.

 

greets

Edited September 11, 2015 by edwin3

[jayfkay (DayZ) 185]

Press vests protect against rifle rounds, the plate carrier how ever, does not.

Ye gotta try that vest for sure. I also felt I tanked more damage when I had the riders jacket. My impression is that its the only item that somewhat helps tho.

 

 

@OP

maybe try smaller calibers and/or more distance.  if ruined its been a hit.

one question, what kind of damage can u see in server logs? is it also shock damage?

Tried the weakest caliber we had at the time :D the highcap vest was ruined after the first test.

You can see everything. Blood, health and shock damage. Gonna go for upper chest shots and press vests versus no press vests next time, distance gonna be 50m or so. Assuming the others arent nearly as thirsty as me for having certainty about this matter, we will probably only test one kind of caliber.