Combat logger and Temperature

[johnlock 7]

Hey guys

 

I haven't played the original DayZ Mod in a while but recently came back to it and so far I like most of the changes and enjoy my time playing. Good work Devs. But there are things I'm (still) not happy with. One of the admins on the server I play on told me that in this game the Devs actually listen to player suggestions so I thought I'd give it a try.

 

First thing: Combat logger. As long as you play on a server with active admins which ban combat logger it's not so much of a problem for the player. For the admin however it must be pretty annoying. On Servers inactive admins this becomes a serious problem. And I believe to have a solution:

If a player is in combat and disconnects, his gear will be dropped on the ground (preferably in a box). There should also be an option to destroy the box via scroll down menu (like hide body). In a normal combat log situation this would result in almost the thing as getting killed. The only advantage the combat logger has, is that upon log in he isn't at the cost.

 

Flaws in this solution:

Accidental combat log could result in loss of equipment if:

• A disconnect / crash happens in a crowded area and the player isn't able to log in fast enough
• The player isn't able to log in before the server restart / The player is in combat during server restart

Still I think this would be better then what we have now.

 

 

 

Second thing: Temperature. I think the way it is now is to harsh. I like the fact that it is hard to survive but since I started playing again in 90% of the cases my cause of death is an infection due to hypothermia. Antibiotics and tents aren't really a solution because once you cure the Infection you'd get a new one and they are either very rare or too big to carry around. Since boxes of matches seem to only contain 5 matches and you would have to make a fire way to often you run out of them too fast and oil barrels are way to rare or in too dangerous locations as well.

I can think of three ways of solving this problems:

A.) The speed at which the temperature drops is decreased.

B.) The existing ways of raising your temperature become enhanced:

• More matches in one box
• Matchboxes more common
• Oil barrels more common
• Running raises Temperature more efficiently
• Make heat packs more common

C.) New ways to preserve / raise temperature

• Clothing
• Make fire using a bow drill (craft with string and wood)
• Make fire using Road flare
• Warm up using Road flare (would be extremely dangerous)
• Add Vacuum Flask to be able to make and conserve warm tea (fill with water, add box herbs [what are they good for anyway], cook over fire) could also have a low chance of curing infection

 

I hope you like the Ideas and I'd appreciate any feedback.

 

Disclaimer: As I said I haven't played Dayz Vanilla in a while and since the wiki seems to be severely outdated it is very hard to get good information. So I might not be up to date with my information and apologize in advance for any wrong statement.

[Red_Ensign 990]

combat logging is situationally good or bad:

 

if someone tries to kill you unsuccessfully and then tries to log out when you shoot back, fine, that's wrong and should end badly.

 

if someone's waiting for his zucchinis to grow and you (the rhetorical you) start sniping at him with your mosin from a hill half a mile away, fuck you, you can't have his smersh vest.  kos prick.  :P

Edited April 26, 2015 by Red_Ensign

[r4z0r49 4761]

If you take a look at the development change-log or the change-log for 1.8.5 Temperature is something we have addressed. We have taken a mixture of options A & B

Thanks for the feedback.

[tiadashi 262]

Hey guys

 

I haven't played the original DayZ Mod in a while but recently came back to it and so far I like most of the changes and enjoy my time playing. Good work Devs. But there are things I'm (still) not happy with. One of the admins on the server I play on told me that in this game the Devs actually listen to player suggestions so I thought I'd give it a try.

 

First thing: Combat logger. As long as you play on a server with active admins which ban combat logger it's not so much of a problem for the player. For the admin however it must be pretty annoying. On Servers inactive admins this becomes a serious problem. And I believe to have a solution:

If a player is in combat and disconnects, his gear will be dropped on the ground (preferably in a box). There should also be an option to destroy the box via scroll down menu (like hide body). In a normal combat log situation this would result in almost the thing as getting killed. The only advantage the combat logger has, is that upon log in he isn't at the cost.

 

Flaws in this solution:

Accidental combat log could result in loss of equipment if:

• A disconnect / crash happens in a crowded area and the player isn't able to log in fast enough
• The player isn't able to log in before the server restart / The player is in combat during server restart

Still I think this would be better then what we have now.

 

 

 

Second thing: Temperature. I think the way it is now is to harsh. I like the fact that it is hard to survive but since I started playing again in 90% of the cases my cause of death is an infection due to hypothermia. Antibiotics and tents aren't really a solution because once you cure the Infection you'd get a new one and they are either very rare or too big to carry around. Since boxes of matches seem to only contain 5 matches and you would have to make a fire way to often you run out of them too fast and oil barrels are way to rare or in too dangerous locations as well.

I can think of three ways of solving this problems:

A.) The speed at which the temperature drops is decreased.

B.) The existing ways of raising your temperature become enhanced:

• More matches in one box
• Matchboxes more common
• Oil barrels more common
• Running raises Temperature more efficiently
• Make heat packs more common

C.) New ways to preserve / raise temperature

• Clothing
• Make fire using a bow drill (craft with string and wood)
• Make fire using Road flare
• Warm up using Road flare (would be extremely dangerous)
• Add Vacuum Flask to be able to make and conserve warm tea (fill with water, add box herbs [what are they good for anyway], cook over fire) could also have a low chance of curing infection

 

I hope you like the Ideas and I'd appreciate any feedback.

 

Disclaimer: As I said I haven't played Dayz Vanilla in a while and since the wiki seems to be severely outdated it is very hard to get good information. So I might not be up to date with my information and apologize in advance for any wrong statement.

 

 

If you take a look at the development change-log or the change-log for 1.8.5 Temperature is something we have addressed. We have taken a mixture of options A & B

Thanks for the feedback.

 

 

My arma 2 crashes fairly frequently I would hate be banned for that - as far as I know matchboxes dont run out of matches, although i dont light fires often enough so maybe they do - I cant quite tell if yall are talking about the mod or SA with the "more matches per box" and "zucchinis" references

[johnlock 7]

My arma 2 crashes fairly frequently I would hate be banned for that - as far as I know matchboxes dont run out of matches, although i dont light fires often enough so maybe they do - I cant quite tell if yall are talking about the mod or SA with the "more matches per box" and "zucchinis" references

 

I wasn't sure whether to answer here or not since the temperature thing has been addressed and people didn't seem to interested in my combat log solution. But I might as well give it a go:

I won't event get into the zucchini post because it doesn't really belong here and I strongly disagree.

 

As for the getting banned thing I think you haven't read my proposal fully through. I didn't say you would get banned for combat logging, I said: If you log out during combat, all your gear falls to the ground (in a box). If you are a combat logger your enemy can pick up the gear. If you arn't you can log back in, pick it up and continue playing.

I also pointed out the weak points of this system but I think the advantages outweigh the disadvantages.

 

Also matchboxes used to have 5 matches in them in 1.8.4.1 so after 5 uses they were empty. Now they spawn full and every time you use them they have a certain chance of being reduced to only contain 5 matches.

 

Kind Regards

[r4z0r49 4761]

Combat logging is a difficult system to fix there's ways we have looked at but each one has issues. 

 

The box idea is good but opens up other problems within the arma engine. We have also looked at leaving the player in the game for 10-20 seconds to bypass a few of the issues within the engine when using box's but this way also brings new problems.

 

We just haven't found a good solution to this yet but we are always looking for new ideas and ways to solve issues.

[jimlad (DayZ) 1]

Regarding temperature, I think it would be good to have some indicator of the direction of temperature change, i.e. whether you're warming up or cooling down. Perhaps the colour of the temperature bar could change according to the "delta" over the last ten seconds? It would save people from thinking they can avoid hypothermia by running, when it's clearly not enough...