DayZ.exe not a valid win32 app

[chickenmcfuggits 49]

The game is still availible for a 32 bit OS isn't it?

Edited February 4, 2015 by Chzy

[DATA (DayZ) 1]

Hello!

 

I got the same problem.

 

System:
Intel i7 @ 4Ghz

16 GBRam

SSD + Velociraptor Raid

high end gpu

(well there is a much potent PSU in there too...)

 

 

For testing I installed Windows XP 64bit and had never troubles with the games.

I read in several topics that a lot of people have now this problem.

But the thing that troubles me is, that other persons already had this problem when the last patch came out. But I could play normally and without lags on high res settings.

Was there a corrupt update or is there a file from BattleEye corrupted?

 

Thanks for help

[chickenmcfuggits 49]

I'm reinstalling the game now, hoping that the update corrupted my install or something.

Edited February 4, 2015 by Chzy

[DATA (DayZ) 1]

i think this tards implemented the command winver, means they check the Windows Version

 

looks like this, click -> WINVER

(to find out, go to Start then Run, paste command-> winver)

 

Vista and Win7 have Version 6

XP has the number 5

 

 

i dont think the game was updated that fast to 64bit only... and wouldn't make sense, cause of the many Win7 32bit users...

[chickenmcfuggits 49]

i think this tards implemented the command winver, means they check the Windows Version

 

looks like this, click -> WINVER

(to find out, go to Start then Run, paste command-> winver)

 

Vista and Win7 have Version 6

XP has the number 5

 

 

i dont think the game was updated that fast to 64bit only... and wouldn't make sense, cause of the many Win7 32bit users...

 

You would think not after 2-3 million people have already bought the game, even if it is in alpha it would be a dick move to change the system requirements like that now.

[franzuu 211]

From steam.

• MINIMUM:
  • OS: Windows Vista SP2 or Windows 7 SP1 
  • Processor: Intel Dual-Core 2.4 GHz or AMD Dual-Core Athlon 2.5 GHz 
  • Memory: 2 GB RAM 
  • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT or AMD Radeon HD 3830 or Intel HD Graphics 4000 with 512 MB VRAM 
  • DirectX: Version 9.0c 
  • Hard Drive: 10 GB available space 
  • Sound Card: DirectX®-compatible

• RECOMMENDED:
  • OS: Windows 7 SP1 
  • Processor: Intel Core i5-2300 or AMD Phenom II X4 940 or better 
  • Memory: 4 GB RAM 
  • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 or AMD Radeon HD 7750 with 1 GB VRAM or better 
  • DirectX: Version 9.0c 
  • Hard Drive: 14 GB available space 
  • Sound Card: DirectX®-compatible

 

 

So officially win XP isn't supported. Also when the new renderer comes out with DX11 support, I do not think they will continue supporting DX9 since it is the source of so many unfixable issues. That would end the game on win XP.

 

As for the reasons XP and 32bit versions of windows might lose their support. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens only due to battleye. Battleye has to make their kernel driver specifically for each windows version [XP, Vista, 7, 8.1 (10)] and then 32 and 64 bit variants for all. A lot changed between win xp and vista so I imagine it is "easy" to keep Vista, 7 and 8.1 going while XP is an unnecessary burden in regards to its market share.

 

The second thing is that battleye might not be able to do everything it wants to stop hacks and detect hacks on 32 bit or hacks might be able to hide themselves better on 32 bit. For example Organner who is a supplier of CSGO hacks has his ring0 hack (went undetected for 5 years) only available for 32 bit, he says that its to reduce chance of detection.

 

+ As DayZ grows the devs might want to let the game use more ram, I could see the game eventually going 64 bit.

[DATA (DayZ) 1]

this makes no sense.

even if they implement the new renderer it should be possible to use DX9 -> why? -> look your written minimum System requirements (and its renderer and not engine! ;) )

 

i also can use the new renderer in World of Tanks and in other games...

 

the thing that bogus me is, that other ppl had this problem already with an earlier patch, where i still could play this game

and the patch wasn't that big, which one fucked up my game

[franzuu 211]

this makes no sense.

even if they implement the new renderer it should be possible to use DX9 -> why? -> look your written minimum System requirements (and its renderer and not engine! ;) )

 

i also can use the new renderer in World of Tanks and in other games...

 

the thing that bogus me is, that other ppl had this problem already with an earlier patch, where i still could play this game

and the patch wasn't that big, which one fucked up my game

 

 

When they implement the new renderer they can use any graphics API, OpenGL, DX9, Mantle, DX12 etc. The question is, will they implement support for them? There were people who were playing this game in DX8 mode, will they support that too?

 

DX9 is old and inferior, you can't do certain stuff and other things are more expensive. The minimum requirement cards from geforce 8000 and radeon 3000 series are DX10.0 compliant.

 

There is no legitimate reason to support DX9. This game is unplayable on the DX9 only cards. Hell, in certain situations its unplayable on a GTX 980.

Edited February 5, 2015 by Franzuu

[DATA (DayZ) 1]

When they implement the new renderer they can use any graphics API, OpenGL, DX9, Mantle, DX12 etc. The question is, will they implement support for them? There were people who were playing this game in DX8 mode, will they support that too?

 

DX9 is old and inferior, you can't do certain stuff and other things are more expensive. The minimum requirement cards from geforce 8000 and radeon 3000 series are DX10.0 compliant.

 

There is no legitimate reason to support DX9. This game is unplayable on the DX9 only cards. Hell, in certain situations its unplayable on a GTX 980.

 

I agree with you.

 

Is it really that bad on some cards with DX9?

The last Systems i tried or installed the game it was more than playable (ok some dudes could't play on high settings cause of CPU, RAM, GPU, etc, but it run well on normal to a little bit higher settings), even higher fps was possible in DX9 mode.

There is the next thing that freaks me out, that the user Woodland Warrior has that much troubles with fps and lags. A friend is playing with one of the last Athlon CPU series (ok its not that fast but playable and you don't have drawbacks and its still fun)

its like the game has its own will where it wants to be played xD

[kichilron 8550]

Just for reference here, what OS is everybody running? Please be as specific as possible.

 

• WinXP 32
• WinXP 64
• Win Vista 32
• Win Vista 64
• Win 7 32
• Win 7 64
• Win 8 32
• Win 8 64

[DATA (DayZ) 1]

i got the problem with Win XP 64

i will try it on Vista later on (but this should work like win7...)

 

if its not from BE, could MS implement something into the 2013 vcredist?

[HappyXceed (DayZ) 28]

 

Just for reference here, what OS is everybody running? Please be as specific as possible.

 

• WinXP 32
• WinXP 64
• Win Vista 32
• Win Vista 64
• Win 7 32
• Win 7 64
• Win 8 32
• Win 8 64

 

Windows 8 64, but I run it in compatibility for WinXP 64.

[kichilron 8550]

Windows 8 64, but I run it in compatibility for WinXP 64.

 

I always had massive problems trying to do that.

[HappyXceed (DayZ) 28]

I always had massive problems trying to do that.

It worked for me! It increased my FPS so I can run it on higher settings.

[chickenmcfuggits 49]

 

Just for reference here, what OS is everybody running? Please be as specific as possible.

 

• WinXP 32
• WinXP 64
• Win Vista 32
• Win Vista 64
• Win 7 32
• Win 7 64
• Win 8 32
• Win 8 64

 

 

I was running on win xp 32 bit, which I know is not supported but I got it to work fine (alpha fine) until this patch, but the error message seemed to indicate that the game wanted a 64 bit OS.

 

I can't get a new computer or OS right now so I'm pretty much out unless someone can throw me a bone to get around this, inb4 "just get x" post. Its a shame being forced to use the newer windows OS for games and such when I like xp so much, I feel like microsoft in all its wisdom should have a way to make these things backwards compatible and play together nicely.

 

Deleting everything (in every folder I know of) and completely reinstalling did not work btw, perhaps this could be something to do with the registry?

Edited February 6, 2015 by Chzy

[franzuu 211]

I agree with you.

 

Is it really that bad on some cards with DX9?

The last Systems i tried or installed the game it was more than playable (ok some dudes could't play on high settings cause of CPU, RAM, GPU, etc, but it run well on normal to a little bit higher settings), even higher fps was possible in DX9 mode.

There is the next thing that freaks me out, that the user Woodland Warrior has that much troubles with fps and lags. A friend is playing with one of the last Athlon CPU series (ok its not that fast but playable and you don't have drawbacks and its still fun)

its like the game has its own will where it wants to be played xD

 

 

I meant cards that are not DX10+ compliant. They just do not have enough horsepower because they are so old. Watching a 30 fps turd that is rendered in 480p is not playable.

[kichilron 8550]

I was running on win xp 32 bit, which I know is not supported but I got it to work fine (alpha fine) until this patch, but the error message seemed to indicate that the game wanted a 64 bit OS.

 

It was confirmed some time back that in the future 32 bit will not be supported. I don't know if this is what has happened now.

 

In either case: if you're a gamer - there is 0 reason to have a 32 bit version. And btw - you shouldn't be using Windows XP anymore. Extended Support for that officially ended last year. There will be major security-issues if you keep using it. Don't expect anyone to support it and that you're sitting on a timebomb.

[chickenmcfuggits 49]

It was confirmed some time back that in the future 32 bit will not be supported. I don't know if this is what has happened now.

 

In either case: if you're a gamer - there is 0 reason to have a 32 bit version. And btw - you shouldn't be using Windows XP anymore. Extended Support for that officially ended last year. There will be major security-issues if you keep using it. Don't expect anyone to support it and that you're sitting on a timebomb.

 

32 bit windows xp, or 32 bit everything?

 

I have read that microsoft ended support, yet they have still been dishing out security updates. Honestly, given that most people have moved on to vista/7/etc you expect they would be making malware for that now instead, it may be actually safer to have xp. Regardless, my computer isn't part of any botnet and all I use it for is porn and dayz.

[kichilron 8550]

32 bit windows xp, or 32 bit everything?

 

I have read that microsoft ended support, yet they have still been dishing out security updates. Honestly, given that most people have moved on to vista/7/etc you expect they would be making malware for that now instead, it may be actually safer to have xp. Regardless, my computer isn't part of any botnet and all I use it for is porn and dayz.

 

 

Only if you have hacked the registry or are a major company the updates will still come. Officially it has ended and there's 0 reason for any customer to use it. Same thing goes for 32 Bit. There's no upside over 64 bit, only downsides. We need this kind of behaviour by everyone, actually. If everybody would just stop supporting 32 bit we would be better off in general.

[chickenmcfuggits 49]

Only if you have hacked the registry or are a major company the updates will still come. Officially it has ended and there's 0 reason for any customer to use it. Same thing goes for 32 Bit. There's no upside over 64 bit, only downsides. We need this kind of behaviour by everyone, actually. If everybody would just stop supporting 32 bit we would be better off in general.

 

This isn't a company computer, I haven't hacked my registry and I am still recieving security updates, in fact one was a few days ago.

 

Not that there isn't some validity to what you are saying, but to tell others "if you would just support what I do" isn't a fair argument I think. I mean I could also say: "If devs would just put forth some minor effort in supporting 32 bit compatibility, we would all be better" then not only would they make more money, but their customers would be happier as well. Consider the amount of wtf threads on the internet about 32 bit compatibility such as this one, I would venture to guess that xp and 32 bit os in general aren't quite out the door yet.

 

I mean this goes for 32bit win 7 as well, unless it has changed no where did it say in the requirements a 64 bit OS. It seems like there has been a trend in game development lately for the system requirements to change drastically not only in alpha/beta, but once the game is released as well. Some examples would be world of tanks and planetside 2, many people paid money to support these games only later for them to change the game in such a way that it became unplayable for many of their customers.

 

DayZ is not exactly doing this yet, they never said win xp would be supported and I bought the game fully expecting to not being able to play it on that OS, but I am just arguing against this tendency to ramp up the load as technology increases faster than the game can be developed. Once the game enters beta, or as in DayZ once a significant number of people have paid you for your game, then I believe there is some responsibility in keeping it playable for people at that point and within reason.

Edited February 6, 2015 by Chzy

[ChainReactor 922]

Not that there isn't some validity to what you are saying, but to tell others "if you would just support what I do" isn't a fair argument I think.

 

He still has a point. Software, or even general PC development would be significantly faster when developers of all kinds would not need to spend resources thinking about compatibility for a - lets say it this clear - outdated technology. As kilchi pointed out correctly, there are no upsides 32 bit brings.

[kichilron 8550]

DayZ is not exactly doing this yet, they never said win xp would be supported and I bought the game fully expecting to not being able to play it on that OS, but I am just arguing against this tendency to ramp up the load as technology increases faster than the game can be developed. Once the game enters beta, or as in DayZ once a significant number of people have paid you for your game, then I believe there is some responsibility in keeping it playable for people at that point and within reason.

 

I am not talking specifically DayZ - generally speaking - why would you have a 32 bit system?

 

You can find 4 GB RAM unbranded for as little as 30$ and that will not even be utilised by Windows. The only reason to go with a 32 bit system is because you bring forth that you don't have enough RAM (well, other than the processor being x86 based, but that's not a thing anymore, is it now?).

 

If you don't have enough RAM these days - I am sorry - that is an excuse. Everyone can.

He still has a point. Software, or even general PC development would be significantly faster when developers of all kinds would not need to spend resources thinking about compatibility for a - lets say it this clear - outdated technology. As kilchi pointed out correctly, there are no upsides 32 bit brings.

 

Not only is there no reason to go 32 Bit - it's also a massive problem its causing with any application (not only gaming) - as mentioned above.

[chickenmcfuggits 49]

I am not talking specifically DayZ - generally speaking - why would you have a 32 bit system?

 

You can find 4 GB RAM unbranded for as little as 30$ and that will not even be utilised by Windows. The only reason to go with a 32 bit system is because you bring forth that you don't have enough RAM (well, other than the processor being x86 based, but that's not a thing anymore, is it now?).

 

If you don't have enough RAM these days - I am sorry - that is an excuse. Everyone can.

 

Not only is there no reason to go 32 Bit - it's also a massive problem its causing with any application (not only gaming) - as mentioned above.

 

Short awnser is I just don't like change, windows xp is highly configurable and has done me right for many years and I like the OS. Also, I spend a lot of time getting everything how I like and its like a week of work to change my OS, I just don't like having to learn all the ins and outs of a new OS. That being said, win 7 isn't too much different and in fact as I post this I am on win 7 now.

 

Sigh... goodbye my sweet windows xp. Time to look for some more RAM so I can support this slow OS.

Edited February 7, 2015 by Chzy

[kichilron 8550]

Short awnser is I just don't like change, windows xp is highly configurable and has done me right for many years and I like the OS.

 

 

Change is upon you, whether you would risk it or not. An OS that is 15 years old won't do you any good.

 

 

EDIT: Whoever figures out the quote will get a cookie and maybe even a hug from me.

Edited February 7, 2015 by kichilron

[chickenmcfuggits 49]

Change is upon you, whether you would risk it or not. An OS that is 15 years old won't do you any good.

 

 

EDIT: Whoever figures out the quote will get a cookie and maybe even a hug from me.

 

Yes, but this is not middle earth.

 

An interesting side effect of running games and operating systems on the low end of their requirements is you can tell just how inefficient they are at managing memory. Using DayZ as an example, if I start the game in cherno and run around I'm fine, but if I run through elektro or all through the countryside first the game still keeps that unnecessary data in memory and lags when I enter place where it has to load more. Instead of offloading things it doesn't need it seems to want to keep them since there is no code in place to tell it that I don't need to see a barn that is 50 km away and instead tries to load a shed right infront of me into the hd page file.

 

I can sit here and write paragraph after paragraph about how increasing technological limits has caused developers to get lazy and just not care about writing smart and clever code anymore but it will just be responded to with cheap one liners and movie quotes. I'll just sit here and play DayZ on this shit OS that I hate and whatever, I guess screw the rest of the people that can't upgrade to a 64 bit OS right? Maybe I'll start trolling wtf xp posts and telling them to get a better computer like everyone else on the internet that had their mom buy them a new shiny i7 with 100s of gigs of RAM.

 

And now that I'm on the subject... screw intel.

Edited February 7, 2015 by Chzy