Gun Magazines

[Unforeseen 24]

I think that 90% of the guns we find should already have a magazine in them. Empty sure, but should have a mag. At least a couple months ago magazines were still ridiculously uncommon compared to their respective weapon. I've almost never encountered someone in real life that didn't keep a mag attached to their weapon, with or w/o bullets in it. Especially handguns. AMMO should be rare, but the mags should not be rare.

[Draco122 412]

I think that 90% of the guns we find should already have a magazine in them. Empty sure, but should have a mag. At least a couple months ago magazines were still ridiculously uncommon compared to their respective weapon. I've almost never encountered someone in real life that didn't keep a mag attached to their weapon, with or w/o bullets in it. Especially handguns. AMMO should be rare, but the mags should not be rare.

 

Military weapons IMHO should not spawn with any magazines, you'd still need to find the magazines for them.

 

However, I would like to see a chance for Civilian weapons to spawn magazines in the gun themselves here's what I would like to see:

 

Pistols

1. Makarov
2. P1
3. Amphibia S
4. 1911

Rifles

1. Ruger 10/22 - Only really spawns with the 10 round magazine by default.
2. CR527 Carbine

SMG

1. PM-73 RAK - Only spawns with 15 round magazines at a rare chance

[Nesuma (DayZ) 108]

No. Having the possibility to kill anybody and anything from a safe distance should need as much different parts as possible. It's too easy to take every bullet you find and then take the first gun you find and go full rambo. Maybe magazines shouldn't be that rare (ammo: uncommon / magazine : rare / weapon : extremely rare) and spawn next to a weapon with 10% but not more.

[BeefBacon 1185]

Pistols, the sporter .22 and the carbine should have a high chance to spawn with a magazine.

 

SMGs should have a smaller, but not inconsiderable chance, to spawn with a magazine.

 

It should be extremely rare for military-grade weapons to spawn with a magazine.

 

 

Magazines should mostly spawn empty, even those not already in guns.

 

Ammo should be more common, but come in smaller stacks. It seems that finding just a single box of ammo can set you up for life, provided you're careful with it. Instead, ammo boxes should be extremely rare while finding 1 - 5 bullets should be relatively common. This means everyone can find at least some ammo, but will need to make every shot count.

[Geckofrog7 1168]

I think mags should be much more common, but ammo needs to be much more rare. It makes no sense to find military weapons with no mags in them...did the CDF just go "well, since we're going to die, let's take the magazines out of all of our guns and spread them to faraway lands to make a fun experience for survivors."?

Edited December 23, 2014 by Geckofrog7

[Freshmen 28]

i would really like to see some mags spawn in / near the corresponding guns. Not every time, not all types but lets say i found a 1911 in a police station. How did the cops use it? Chamber every single bullet?

[Unforeseen 24]

Nesuma we should be thinking about the finished product not on how it would affect the ALPHA environment. Guns should spawn with or near their mags, this is realistic and it will be important when the environment is more dangerous. You just balance it by decreasing the amount of ammo that spawns. Instead of finding 20 rounds, you find 3 or 4 at a time.

[Egrets 5]

Nesuma we should be thinking about the finished product not on how it would affect the ALPHA environment. Guns should spawn with or near their mags, this is realistic and it will be important when the environment is more dangerous. You just balance it by decreasing the amount of ammo that spawns. Instead of finding 20 rounds, you find 3 or 4 at a time.

Well put! To me the environment feels more dangerous when i know that more players are armed (even with low tier weapons). With the way that guns + ammo spawn now, there is a big element of fear/tension missing from SA when compared to the mod.

People are celebrating player interactions in SA, but to me the interactions feel cheap, and forced (since so many people are running around the map unarmed)

I like your idea if i'm paraphrasing it correctly that: maybe players should get a working gun in their hands a bit quicker, but ammo is harder to come by. 

 

[Vadnais 9]

there at least need to be more magazine/clip spawns in general, and more evened out. I had an SKS for days, came across dozens of SKS's, ended up getting an upgrade to an AKM and several mags for it before I found a SINGLE clip to use on an SKS, that's a little ridiculous.

[Unforeseen 24]

I had the best luck this morning. Looting a police station and I found an sks, there was a mag for it one room over!

[sachad 1016]

there at least need to be more magazine/clip spawns in general, and more evened out. I had an SKS for days, came across dozens of SKS's, ended up getting an upgrade to an AKM and several mags for it before I found a SINGLE clip to use on an SKS, that's a little ridiculous.

 

You don't need clips to operate an SKS. All it does is make reloading a bit faster and easier.

[Vadnais 9]

You don't need clips to operate an SKS. All it does is make reloading a bit faster and easier.

true but having to chamber individual rounds makes using it impractical. If I could load the entire 10 rounds into the weapon by hand it would be different, but as it stands you can only put in the one round by hand.

[sachad 1016]

true but having to chamber individual rounds makes using it impractical. If I could load the entire 10 rounds into the weapon by hand it would be different, but as it stands you can only put in the one round by hand.

 

I'm not sure what weapon you have, but it's decidely not an SKS... you can manually load 10 rounds in there, and it's not even that much slower than reloading with a clip. Are you sure you haven't got a CR527?

[VermillionX 78]

I agree that some weapons should spawn with magazines. But this is a "zombie apocalypse" and the majority of firearms users would've used all the weapons you find lying around.

Guns should at least spawn as "worn" down to "badly damaged", those weapon cleaning kits are everywhere and are completely unused. Similarly, the mags that spawn in weapons should always be damaged in some way. There's got to be a reason why their users just dumped them and if more weapons are spawning with mags, most of them should be unusable/barely usable. Pristine mags can always be found on their own.

[Vadnais 9]

I'm not sure what weapon you have, but it's decidely not an SKS... you can manually load 10 rounds in there, and it's not even that much slower than reloading with a clip. Are you sure you haven't got a CR527?

I am positive I had an SKS, I dont know why but it would NOT let me load more than one round at a time.

[VermillionX 78]

Sounds more like a CR527. They both use the same ammo. I don't think it's even possible to load just one round into an SKS...

[I34dKarma (DayZ) 0]

I have been thinking about this issue as well. Mags right now are so rare that players, including myself, horde any mag that they find just in case they find the weapon for it. There is also that possibility of people just grabbing them and dropping them later so others don't get them. This just makes mags/clips harder to find. 

 

I think spawning an empty mag inside the weapon would be a solution that could be a fix for the short term until persistent servers get fixed with improved loot spawning. Ammo is not easy to find unless all you do is visit military bases/camps. Mosin ammo and the shotgun shells might be the exception to the rule I can find that all the time.

 

When the loot system is in a more finalized system I think it could be brought back to its current state when weapons spawn with out a mag. Or make it rare that the weapon would have an empty mag with it.