Crossbows being ignored?

[hiniberus 122]

So guys, ever since the implementation of the crossbow, I've avoided it as if it was satan's baby. But one fine day I gave it a try and did indeed find out why I avoided it like satan's baby. After landing 2 direct shots (supposedly) on a geared dude and nada, nothing. One was at approx 20~30 meters and another was at about 20~ish meters. I didn't see any damage to him and I'm pretty certain they both hit. 

 

Now I've fired a bow'n arrow IRL a few times, so here I'm thinking a crossbow would be more accurate (horizontally loaded and held still) and way more powerful than the bow I used, so how come it's so crap? While most of the other guns got some attention, I feel as if the crossbow/sporter have been ignored, both of which are guns I'd surely enjoy using more...if they were usable.

[kakysas666 191]

Once they intorduced it, I played for  like 3-4 days with that shit and then dropped because it was useless even against zombies. Reload lasts 30 minutes. I'd rather use my fists than a crossbow.

[hiniberus 122]

My concern is that since the 'first balance passing' of the firearms, like, since last patch? I don't think the Sporter and Crossbow got any love, both still even have the auto-zoom on them D:

[svisketyggeren 662]

Its a stealth weapon u nimwits!

 

U are using it wrong....think "im a ninja...therfore I need to use a crossbow"

Edited August 26, 2014 by svisketyggeren

[Tupoun 65]

 

So guys, ever since the implementation of the crossbow, I've avoided it as if it was satan's baby. But one fine day I gave it a try and did indeed find out why I avoided it like satan's baby. After landing 2 direct shots (supposedly) on a geared dude and nada, nothing. One was at approx 20~30 meters and another was at about 20~ish meters. I didn't see any damage to him and I'm pretty certain they both hit. 

 

Now I've fired a bow'n arrow IRL a few times, so here I'm thinking a crossbow would be more accurate (horizontally loaded and held still) and way more powerful than the bow I used, so how come it's so crap? While most of the other guns got some attention, I feel as if the crossbow/sporter have been ignored, both of which are guns I'd surely enjoy using more...if they were usable.

 

 

Sorry mate, they don't have enough time for this. They are working hard on the possibility to grow cucumbers or creating another version of the carp model. Don't you even try to bother them with nitpicking at some stupid crossbow or, gods forbid, not having decently functioning zombies (in this case, almost not having zombies at all). It's just a zombie apocalypse game. Weeeell it may be slowly turning into the farming or fishing simulator, but - that's what the public wants. Carps. At least three variations of them.

[supermarco 64]

Crossbow, useless since dayz mod.

[ebrim 998]

I like the idea of crossbow and bow wounds causing a higher risk of infection in the future. Bigger, nastier wounds all the more welcoming to your new bacterial house guests. Balancing all in good time.

[scriptfactory 620]

It is ridiculous that you can bandage almost as quickly as you can reload the crossbow. Maybe they should decrease the reload time a bit.

Also, I would love to see some kind of mechanic that improves the bolt in PvP. Maybe something like making it impossible to bandage without removing the crossbow bolt first.

[supermarco 64]

The way of how Dayz is made, will always make crossbow useless.. Unless they increase the aiming precision and the damage taken, it will always be useless. even with scope though.

 

The bow will be more usefull because faster to reload and fun to use because you can craft it.

 

I think its going to be the same as the mod.

[hombrecz 832]

Not much is finished in SA as of now. I don't think devs will leave xbows useless as they are now.

Oh and having animation, when you were pulling bolt out of your body, that would be kewl!

[Elvis 22222222 31]

Its a stealth weapon u nimwits!

 

U are using it wrong....think "im a ninja...therfore I need to use a crossbow"

 

I still needs to able to kill, it's a weapon after all. 

[Dagwood 680]

Crossbow solution: automatic bleed whenever struck by bolt or arrow. Highest bleed rate of any projectile weapon (highest blood loss per second). Bolt removable only with pliers. Bandage tears and wound reopens if bolt or arrow are not removed before moving again. The trade off would be that killing someone by firing repeated bolts or arrows would be less effective than most firearms. You have to shoot your target and then track them. What you think?

[hothtimeblues 128]

Sorry mate, they don't have enough time for this. They are working hard on the possibility to grow cucumbers or creating another version of the carp model. Don't you even try to bother them with nitpicking at some stupid crossbow or, gods forbid, not having decently functioning zombies (in this case, almost not having zombies at all). It's just a zombie apocalypse game. Weeeell it may be slowly turning into the farming or fishing simulator, but - that's what the public wants. Carps. At least three variations of them.

Finally. An honest person on the forum. You have my beans.

[hiniberus 122]

Sorry mate, they don't have enough time for this. They are working hard on the possibility to grow cucumbers or creating another version of the carp model. Don't you even try to bother them with nitpicking at some stupid crossbow or, gods forbid, not having decently functioning zombies (in this case, almost not having zombies at all). It's just a zombie apocalypse game. Weeeell it may be slowly turning into the farming or fishing simulator, but - that's what the public wants. Carps. At least three variations of them.

 

I simply love this post, it's dripping with more sarcasm than the wettest, most moist vagina ever. GG my friend, G-moddafuckin' G.

[Whyherro123 2283]

Arrows and bolts can actually penetrate particularly fdeep, depending on impact angle and medium. This is a video about testing the penetration of stone arrowheads on a deer, using a "measly" 40 lb bow. A stronger bow or a crossbow would be much more effective.

 

 

So, bows and crossbows would fuck you up.

[mrmutant 13]

 

So, bows and crossbows would fuck you up.

 

True. But if you're taking fire... good luck firing back with a bow. Also the amount of energy coming from a 7.62 round flying into your chest far surpasses that of a reed arrow from a 40-50lb bow. You would need to strike a vital organ to ensure an  instant kill and to prevent the guy from sending a wall of lead your way before you can load another arrow.

 

If the bow easier to come by and weapons were more rare(and same with ammo), the bow would have its uses. Its much easier finding an SKS or Mosin and 20 rounds over finding an axe, rope, chicken feathers and specific tree to craft the bow. Both the bow and crossbow never cross my mind in game. IRL a bow/xbow is the perfect reusable stealth weapon/survival hunting tool, but i think the reliability, stopping power and accuracy of a firearm over a crafted bow/hunting crossbow far outweighs the advantage of stealth and re-useability.

 

I honestly wouldn't have the nerve to load an arrow, draw the string back, poke my body out, aim, and fire while getting shot at. For firefights... fuck that. For killing one dude in a perfect scenario under perfect conditions where stealth was vital to ensure my life would not be in danger, sure a bow would be nice

 

So sure buff the bow but I'm still not using that thing unless I absolutely have to. Same goes with the 99% of other players out there.

[ebrim 998]

 

So sure buff the bow but I'm still not using that thing unless I absolutely have to. Same goes with the 99% of other players out there.

Because you live in a magical world where guns are prevalent and you essentially always have a choice between a high-powered rifle and a bow. Do not assume you will always have that choice and that this world will always exist how it is presently.

I just feel like all these people saying bows/xbows/anything that isn't AKM is pointless should make it very clear that they are talking about a very specific point in time or risk looking foolish (not you MrMutant). When and if melee becomes a far more common way of resolving combat (as some Devs have hinted may be desired) the guy with the AKM may be god but just like god he's nowhere to be seen and hardly to be taken seriously most of the time, the guy with the crossbow though may be slightly more menacing than the guy with the wrench. Let's not draw too many conclusions about the game in 3 months based upon the game as it exists now.

Edited August 26, 2014 by Ebrim

[spartacusrex 88]

I wish they'd implement some kind of damage over time until one bandages (and presumably removes the bolt/arrow)

[rybec 339]

"measly" 40 lb bow.

 

So, bows and crossbows would fuck you up.

My bow is set to 80lbs

That video is with a stone head, but with a broadhead like this one you can shoot straight through bodies as long as it doesn't lodge itself right into the bone.

They like to make really smooth cuts in a + shape when they go through too. Hit a bear, elk, deer or a moose with one in the lung and blood pours out.

[grindstone50k 208]

Maybe, just maybe, balancing will come during beta.

[chodeofwar 145]

Ammo !

I need ammo for the crossbow, make them spawn in packs of 10. 5 is not enough and they are too rare. I always pick up the scope when I find it but I just never have enough ammo.

[SpiRiTuS T16 10]

Crossbow, useless since dayz mod.

The crossbow in the mod was a lot better than the crossbow in the standalone, against zombies at least. Ive killed an afk guy in 2 shots with the crossbow lol

[kylesaysthings 44]

I wish they'd implement some kind of damage over time until one bandages (and presumably removes the bolt/arrow)

So... why would this exist for a crossbow/bow wound, but not a bullet wound?  Please don't try and tell me that arrow/bolt wounds cause more trauma, larger wounds/wound cavities, a higher risk of infection, or any of the other bullshit that all the Bow/Xbow fans love to spit.

[Dagwood 680]

So... why would this exist for a crossbow/bow wound, but not a bullet wound? Please don't try and tell me that arrow/bolt wounds cause more trauma, larger wounds/wound cavities, a higher risk of infection, or any of the other bullshit that all the Bow/Xbow fans love to spit.

Yes, firearms are more powerful and lethal than bows or crossbows. However, bolt and arrow wounds are more complicated to treat than bullet wounds. A bullet hole can be plugged and wrapped. Hard to do the same with 3 inches of bolt/arrow buried into your shoulder,

[kylesaysthings 44]

However, bolt and arrow wounds are more complicated to treat than bullet wounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIFkLAgGy6w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGYF8DTLcj4

 

Watch those, and you'll understand just why bullet wounds are so much more complicated to treat, and thus more lethal.  The entire "arrows and bolt wounds are harder to treat than bullet wounds" thing is a myth created by peoples lack of understanding that bullets dump energy and don't just punch small holes like Swiss cheese.