zombies no clip - sorry if already done

[boonaroony 10]

Hi guys,

 

I have been off day z for a few months vowing not to play til they fix the zombies jumping through walls thing. Said at the time appreciate we are in alpha but this particular bug drove me nuts - is this fixed yet? I cant even face loading the game if this is still going on! :) I totally expect the "it's alpha dude get over it what did u expect?" thing so bonus points to whoever gets in with it first :)

 

sorry if this has been covered elsewhere are on the forums.

 

 

Thanks

[Zedertone 378]

They've added a new mesh to where zombies do not go through walls anymore, but sometimes doors. And, it's not even that annoying, I don't know why people whine so much about this issue, I've had them do it before but like 1 at a time and it's just an axe swing or something, or a run up the stairs.

[Katana67 2907]

They've added a new mesh to where zombies do not go through walls anymore, but sometimes doors. And, it's not even that annoying, I don't know why people whine so much about this issue, I've had them do it before but like 1 at a time and it's just an axe swing or something, or a run up the stairs.

 

I find it insanely annoying. It happens every time I draw aggro when inside a building.

 

And zombies do clip through walls, it's just harder for them to do so. There are still major issues with the navmesh, which I foresee will be remedied.

Edited August 17, 2014 by Katana67

[RagedDrew 209]

Hi guys,

 

 is this fixed yet?

 

Thanks

 

In a nutshell no, but it has got a little better, well maybe not a little better, maybe a tiny bit better, okay not a tiny bit better, it's just as bad even with the new navmesh.

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

In a nutshell no, but it has got a little better, well maybe not a little better, maybe a tiny bit better, okay not a tiny bit better, it's just as bad even with the new navmesh.

 

The navmesh is working and the zombies are behaving very differently from the pre-navmesh days. I don't know why you would spout such nonsense.

[boonaroony 10]

I find it insanely annoying. It happens every time I draw aggro when inside a building.

 

And zombies do clip through walls, it's just harder for them to do so. There are still major issues with the navmesh, which I foresee will be remedied.

 

It just frustrates me that something I consider so fundamental to the realism of the game has not been sorted, but they are fixing animations and adding new crafting/new weapons etc.

 

I would find it cool if a zombie could smash doors or windows making it not totally safe to hide out in a building but the clipping is a massive issue in my opinion.

 

Its all well and good saying just hit it with an axe or similar but when you aint got one its a pain in the arse.

[boonaroony 10]

The navmesh is working and the zombies are behaving very differently from the pre-navmesh days. I don't know why you would spout such nonsense.

 

I am gonna brave it and see how I get on, might find myself rage quitting for another 6 months though!

[KiskilleAcronym 43]

Hi guys,

 

I have been off day z for a few months vowing not to play til they fix the zombies jumping through walls thing. Said at the time appreciate we are in alpha but this particular bug drove me nuts - is this fixed yet? I cant even face loading the game if this is still going on! :) I totally expect the "it's alpha dude get over it what did u expect?" thing so bonus points to whoever gets in with it first :)

 

sorry if this has been covered elsewhere are on the forums.

 

 

Thanks

 

Oh don't you worry. It took the devs 1 year to recognize that they need a new engine to fix clipping zombies, lights through walls...

So you can't even guess how long it's going to take them to make a proper engine.

 

Yes, I know they now have 70.000 employees. But you got to admit, the devs are really poorly organized.

[Ben_uk 24]

Well, a zomb clipped through a wall today when I was looting a building (with only 1 door), so it had to come through the only entrance which I was facing. The navmesh isn't perfect thats for certain, but its better than what we had 2 months ago, which was 100% broken instead of 20% broken as of now.

[RagedDrew 209]

The navmesh is working and the zombies are behaving very differently from the pre-navmesh days. I don't know why you would spout such nonsense.

 

I call it how I see it. When 95% of the zombies who rush the building I'm in and successfully make it to the same floor I'm on without any way to gain access isn't nonsense. This is not including the 100% of crawler zombies who manage to gain access when the doors are closed.

 

Nevmesh is not working.

[hothtimeblues 128]

The navmesh is working and the zombies are behaving very differently from the pre-navmesh days. I don't know why you would spout such nonsense.

What are you talking about?   All zombies easily still go through walls.  I see them go through walls a lot less but I can't go 5 minutes without seeing an aggro zed NOT go through a wall.

 

The fact that you think you are safe because of the navmesh makes it even more fucking annoying when you start getting hit by a broken zombie who just ghosted through a tent, wall, fell through stairs.

 

The only nonsense being spouted here my friend is your suggestion that navmesh is anything but broken and useless so far.

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

I call it how I see it. When 95% of the zombies who rush the building I'm in and successfully make it to the same floor I'm on without any way to gain access isn't nonsense. This is not including the 100% of crawler zombies who manage to gain access when the doors are closed.

 

Nevmesh is not working.

 

95%? So you are calling it with blatant lies and exaggerations. Good call.

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

What are you talking about?   All zombies easily still go through walls.  I see them go through walls a lot less but I can't go 5 minutes without seeing an aggro zed NOT go through a wall.

 

The fact that you think you are safe because of the navmesh makes it even more fucking annoying when you start getting hit by a broken zombie who just ghosted through a tent, wall, fell through stairs.

 

The only nonsense being spouted here my friend is your suggestion that navmesh is anything but broken and useless so far.

 

"All zombies easily still go through walls" "I see them go through walls a lot less". "No difference between pre-navmesh zombies".

 

Since these claims are all conflicting, the proper term is indeed "nonsense", since you aren't making any sense.

[pillock 850]

I am gonna brave it and see how I get on, might find myself rage quitting for another 6 months though!

 

Nobody's told you about the melee hit detection yet, have they?

[Briljin 102]

They've added a new mesh to where zombies do not go through walls anymore, but sometimes doors. And, it's not even that annoying, I don't know why people whine so much about this issue, I've had them do it before but like 1 at a time and it's just an axe swing or something, or a run up the stairs.

 

I have not seen one stopped by a single door yet.   Walls, yeah they don't just clip through them any more but doors may as well not exist for them...

[hothtimeblues 128]

"All zombies easily still go through walls" "I see them go through walls a lot less". "No difference between pre-navmesh zombies".

Since these claims are all conflicting, the proper term is indeed "nonsense", since you aren't making any sense.

Sorry I was not clear. What I mean is I see a lot of different behavior of zeds like them going around more of the walls and fences. However, there are still many instances where zeds can ghost through walls and floors, stairs.... Etc. Its just as annoying as before or worse since you think the navmesh is a reality..... And then a zed just pops behind you through the wall. Its embarrassing that after 9 months zombies are still broken. I guess you have been lucky to only go in the few buildings were navmesh works for you to not understand how terrible I have seen navmesh results.

[LeeVanSpliff 156]

I call it how I see it. When 95% of the zombies who rush the building I'm in and successfully make it to the same floor I'm on without any way to gain access isn't nonsense. This is not including the 100% of crawler zombies who manage to gain access when the doors are closed.

 

Nevmesh is not working.

Navmesh working doesn't mean the zombies can open doors. It means that they'll go through the doorway. Sometimes when the door is closed too.

I guess that you won't always SEE them going through the doorway, if a few updates get lost between the server and the client. I'd say that 10% of the time I see a zombie go through a doorway it'll have one shoulder inside the door frame.

Anyhow, the zombie behavior is definitely changed for the better. They follow you up stairs, run around or through houses to get to you and so on - that's the nav mesh stuff in play.

That doesn't mean that zombies are working well yet. They still have plenty of things about them that are just placeholders. Frankly I find the zombie-sliding-backwards-while-attacking-hitting-someone-behind-it way more annoying than the wall glitching ever was.

If them glitching through walls a few months back was so annoying for OP, I think he should probably wait till the zombie radar sight has been replaced with a proper stupid-zombie behavior.

[RagedDrew 209]

95%? So you are calling it with blatant lies and exaggerations. Good call.

Blatant lies? Okay sure, I guess you've been following me around watching all the zombies.

[byrgesen 1341]

Oh don't you worry. It took the devs 1 year to recognize that they need a new engine to fix clipping zombies, lights through walls...

So you can't even guess how long it's going to take them to make a proper engine.

 

Yes, I know they now have 70.000 employees. But you got to admit, the devs are really poorly organized.

 

:facepalm:

 

If you had any idea what you where talking about, you would know that the "new engine" was planned from the very beginning.

And its not a new engine, its a branch of the RV engine, tailored for DayZ, called Enfusion.

They have been working on this from dayz one, and will keep working on it.

 

Come back when you actually know what you are talking about mate, and stop spewing mis-information around tbh......

 

@OP

Like others have mentioned, it has gotten alot better, but the nav mesh is still VIP, so its far from perfect.

Its not game breaking though, because the amount of zombies atm, is extremly low.

Edited August 18, 2014 by Byrgesen

[KiskilleAcronym 43]

 

 

They have been working on this from dayz one, and will keep working on it.

 

 

Then why have they even released an alpha game thats broken with an outdated engine?

 

 

Stop being so defensive towards the developers and motivate them to make a great game!

But I have faith, DayZ will become a great game.

Edited August 21, 2014 by KiskilleAcronym

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Then why have they even released an alpha game thats broken with an outdated engine?

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[byrgesen 1341]

Then why have they even released an alpha game thats broken with an outdated engine?

 

 

Stop being so defensive towards the developers and motivate them to make a great game!

But I have faith, DayZ will become a great game.

 

I am not being "defensive" i am stating facts.

If you had followed development, you would know that from the very start of this, they had been planning to improve the engine and tailor it for DayZ, thats the main reason it went from a mod to a standalone game. To overcome the limitations of the RV3 Engine (3 as in 3rd version of the RV engine!)

But the engine isnt outdated, its like almost every other engine out. The core was build long ago and then they updated it over the years and made it into what it is now. Its exactly the same as Frostbyte, CryEngine and Source.....

The engine's purpose was very different from what they want to achieve now, and that takes time to change, on the core level.

 

The reason i was so "enthusiastic" about it, is because this is public knowledge, right there for you to read. But you have choosen not to do so, so someone had to tell you the facts of it tbh.

Broken and alpha, go hand in hand in video game development. Things are ment to break, they are trying to get as much as possible out of it, as they can and that will break it over and over again. Thats why we have a beta phase you know mate. To fix what the alpha broke.

 

But like every single engine out there, theres some kind of limitation in it. You wont find any engine without limitations.

The fact of the matter is that they are trying to overcome as many of them as possible, during this development, hence the looooong development phase.

 

I am not defending anything, but looking at this with realistic expectations. Its a "small" studio, compared to most AAA titles. Granted they have aquired A LOT of new personal, but that wont make the game develop any faster. It takes time for new people to learn the code and learn how to work together aswell.

More doesnt mean quality tbh.

[blowurselfup 54]

It definitely has gotten better but still not completely optimized.  I might be wrong but I think seeing through walls has been somewhat fixed also.

 

I still get hit by zombies through walls and floors tho

[mareak 50]

I was about to start a new thread. Thanks to god I was intelligent enough to use the search button. I have not playing this game for a few months now. Few means like 11 months to be exact. Yesterday, I re-install back the game and play it for the first time. I was amaze with the Zombies! they were actually follow the path to get to you if you in a building or house. Unfortunately in certain area/town, they can still jump on you from behind a wall. All in all this is a good progress. Keep it up Dev. Looking forward to see this game in Beta :)

[.Ender. 42]

Yeah they're not too bad, and with an axe or blunt object you can still thwart off like 5 at a time by running in a circle and whacking away lol.

 

I was in a 3 story apt building in Berezino (I believe it was on the east coast) and one ran into the front door, acted like it was going up the stairs, then started hitting me. It hit me MANY times as I ran around the stairway to go find it. It was stuck on the bottom floor, hit me probably 5 or 6 times. I did not get any broken bones but my gear was almost all ruined, was Pristine prior. Its alpha, but still going on. Not nearly as bad as it used to be.

 

Now you just have to deal with the zeds having better vision than superman...seriously..they see you like 1000m away lol