What about the ''MODERN BOW''

[veteranninja 73]

It should be cool if they add a modern bow like this one

 

https://www.google.ca/search?q=modern+bow&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=mk3EU571GJCxyATemILoBg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=799#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=GznA-Pfp8ObdzM%253A%3BijzwoEKaV-lu7M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.thespecialistsltd.com%252Ffiles%252FBasic_Compound_Bow.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.thespecialistsltd.com%252Fcompound-bow-basic%3B3309%3B1869

 

The bow ingame right now is not powerful or accurate...

I want to be silent in dayz, make my moves without a sound, and kill without a sound...

The silencer is not working, and the bow is not accurate or deadly for a other player.. So thats why they should add a better bow, cause normaly you a bow is deadly!

Sorry for my english :D

 

https://www.google.ca/search?q=modern+bow&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=mk3EU571GJCxyATemILoBg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=799#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=1UGTI8eZdMT0PM%253A%3BSTK-SPQ6uIa6xM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fhuntandfishalabama.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2014%252F02%252F41ItL25nKRL.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fhuntandfishalabama.com%252F2014%252F02%252F55-lb-29-compound-bow-w-5-spot-paper-target-black%252F%3B500%3B500

 

[nettles 396]

This game has a crossbow. What more do you need? There's already too much tacticool looking stuff in the game right now.  We don't need bows with scopes and laser sights.

[veteranninja 73]

Im talking about a other bow that you can find in a store or somewhere else and that new ''BOW'' is more accurate and deadly, we dont need a red hot or things like that

 

Im a bow player.. not a crossbow man..

 

Why they add a modern crossbow with scope and things like that and not for the bow..

Edited July 14, 2014 by NinjaStyle

[Chaingunfighter 917]

This game has a crossbow. What more do you need? There's already too much tacticool looking stuff in the game right now.  We don't need bows with scopes and laser sights.

A compound bow fits the setting perfectly fine, and I've never heard anyone start using the term "tacticool" for bows.

 

"Already too much tacticool stuff" So, an M4 and a few pistols are "too tacticool" for the game?

[alldaypk 63]

I don't know what the scene is for bow hunting in that region, but what's a zombie apocalypse without an archer?

[UltimateGentleman 355]

I don't know what the scene is for bow hunting in that region, but what's a zombie apocalypse without an archer?

 

Maybe with all the military bases around they needed a special license for guns or something that's one way to explain it, not sure armies would like people shooting constantly.

 

Bows are good for hunting anyway silent and deadly.

 

A compound bow would be awesome as well as explosive tips so we can go full Rambo it'd be cool if they didn't kill in one shot but you could maybe rub the blue berries on the tips to poison animals or people and follow them to their deaths.

[nettles 396]

A compound bow fits the setting perfectly fine, and I've never heard anyone start using the term "tacticool" for bows.

 

"Already too much tacticool stuff" So, an M4 and a few pistols are "too tacticool" for the game?

 

There's also tons of military vests and body armor, a couple different kinds of combat knives, and hecka attachments for guns. I don't mind a couple cool gadgets, but over-the-top military gear should be a lot more rare than it is. Nearly every player I've come across has been wearing a gas mask and a high capacity vest with a fully modded assault rifle or mosin with a compensator, bipod, and scope.  I mean, modding an AK to LMG status with a drum mag and bipod is just silly.

[nettles 396]

To get back to the topic at hand, I would be willing to compromise to see a fiberglass longbow or some sort of sport bow.  But an absolute MUST for this game is to be able to craft your own arrows.

[Chaingunfighter 917]

There's also tons of military vests and body armor, a couple different kinds of combat knives, and hecka attachments for guns. I don't mind a couple cool gadgets, but over-the-top military gear should be a lot more rare than it is. Nearly every player I've come across has been wearing a gas mask and a high capacity vest with a fully modded assault rifle or mosin with a compensator, bipod, and scope.  I mean, modding an AK to LMG status with a drum mag and bipod is just silly.

Combat knives, body armor, and vests are fairly standard military issue gear, there's nothing over-the-top about them. Most attachments you see are also fairly common ones. And I wouldn't say adding a drum mag or a bipod to AKs is silly, considering that's what is done all the time in the real world. Most of the time nowadays you don't see original, unmodified AKMs or even AK-74s being standard issue, at least in standing armies. Otherwise, you may as well call every modified AKM/AK-47 silly.

I'm not saying we should be finding gas masks and full kit attachments everywhere, in fact, I support them being rare, but there's nothing wrong with having a ton of them in the game.

It's just not fair to call it over the top, because it really isn't.

 

But that's besides the point. Compound bows are not in service in any standard military on the planet as it is. There's hardly anything "high-tech", and nothing "military" about them. I fail to see why a better quality but rarer bow that cannot be crafted shouldn't be available.

[gibonez 3633]

Crossbow and Bow are both useless adding another bow would make it equally useless.

[SaveMeJebus 164]

Always floored by your logic gib lol .... I have nothing against shooting arrows at people but really? you want a scope for your bow?  If you can't see as far as the effective range of a bow/arrow you need your eyes checked.

[nettles 396]

I'm not arguing that military items shouldn't exist, I'm saying there's TOO MUCH military stuff.  I'd love to see more civilian attachments.  Like duct-taping a flashlight to a rifle, but it makes it harder to move than using a weapon flashlight, or taping a knife to an ashwood stick to make a spear.  weapon flashlights and RDS systems should be the ultra-rare endgame stuff.  

 

but again, my point is, I don't want to see an assault bow with explosive arrows and full auto mode. 

[Jasonperson 78]

I'm not arguing that military items shouldn't exist, I'm saying there's TOO MUCH military stuff.  I'd love to see more civilian attachments.  Like duct-taping a flashlight to a rifle, but it makes it harder to move than using a weapon flashlight, or taping a knife to an ashwood stick to make a spear.  weapon flashlights and RDS systems should be the ultra-rare endgame stuff.  

 

but again, my point is, I don't want to see an assault bow with explosive arrows and full auto mode. 

Never in my life have I heard of an assault bow. All this guy is asking for is a simple compound bow.

[nettles 396]

simple compound bow.

 

sounds like an oxymoron. 

 

But seriously, I get what you're all saying.  having a pre-fab bow that's more powerful than a stick and a shoelace.  What about a sleek fiberglass recurve bow?

[demongornot 23]

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+1000

In fact that what i expect from DayZ, be able to survive in the wild just by hunting, crafting arrow and having a NICE bow.

Compound bow and others modern bow, longbow are more than welcome !!! In fact i don't expect to play DayZ for long if a compound bow are not added...

 

 

This game has a crossbow. What more do you need? There's already too much tacticool looking stuff in the game right now.  We don't need bows with scopes and laser sights.

 

 

Why everytime that someone in a forum post a GOOD IDEA, or even a GREAT idea that will just NOT AT ALL interfering with your way to play, that a lot of people want and which is nice to have.

Someone just ruin it in the FIRST ANSWER ?

Seriously why say no to this ?

A crossbow ? really ?

Basically you say that, not centuries but MILLENNIUM of of bow hunting/war and fight are just a tacticool thing ?

Seriously ? So just cause you don't like bow, no one should have one ?

Go learn the difference between bow and crossbow, NOTHING is tacticool.

 

Maybe with all the military bases around they needed a special license for guns or something that's one way to explain it, not sure armies would like people shooting constantly.

 

Bows are good for hunting anyway silent and deadly.

 

A compound bow would be awesome as well as explosive tips so we can go full Rambo it'd be cool if they didn't kill in one shot but you could maybe rub the blue berries on the tips to poison animals or people and follow them to their deaths.

+1000 BUT no poison arrow for what you hunt unless you want to kill yourself eating this, sleeping stuff will be better but it will be abuse on player...

But no for explosive arrow, or compound bow which are nice but still a niche thing will become the most cheated/Wanted thing...

 

 

Never in my life have I heard of an assault bow. All this guy is asking for is a simple compound bow.

He probably referring to the predator bow you have on Crysis and other unrealistic compound bow that become too mainstream today and we start to see in every game but still be unrealistic.

[demongornot 23]

sounds like an oxymoron. 

 

But seriously, I get what you're all saying.  having a pre-fab bow that's more powerful than a stick and a shoelace.  What about a sleek fiberglass recurve bow?

What if we want the beautiful aspect of the compound bow ?

Like the Bowtech Assassin <3 http://www.outdoortexan.com/images/2004-11-21/BowTech1.jpg

They are way more powerful and long range than "stick and shoelace"

A "sleek fiberglass recurve bow" is also nice of course i agree but it won't be hard to 3D artist and devs to do it and put it into the game cause it will not need more animations than the actual craftable one and the 3D model are pretty simple, only damage/range/ballistic tweaking are needed, nothing else.

 

But damn i want a beautiful compound bow with his magnificent look and his famous sight http://www.huntersfriend.com/sight_selection_guide/sight_selection_guide.html

Two model of compound bow will be a nice to have feature.

Like the game TheHunter (hunting simulator) which have two compound bow, a crossbow and two more sleek bow.

Edited July 15, 2014 by Demongornot

[Chaingunfighter 917]

I'm not arguing that military items shouldn't exist, I'm saying there's TOO MUCH military stuff.  I'd love to see more civilian attachments.  Like duct-taping a flashlight to a rifle, but it makes it harder to move than using a weapon flashlight, or taping a knife to an ashwood stick to make a spear.  weapon flashlights and RDS systems should be the ultra-rare endgame stuff.  

 

but again, my point is, I don't want to see an assault bow with explosive arrows and full auto mode. 

There isn't "TOO MUCH military stuff", though. You're saying that the variety of gear that you could classify as "military", even as arbitrary of a classification that is, should be limited, rather than making the items themselves rarer.

 

Having a bow made of durable fiberglass and industrially made cable =/= Far Cry 3 Predator Bow with C4 arrows and a Holo Sight.

 

Also, RIS weapon flashlights being endgame content? LOL.

Edited July 15, 2014 by Chaingunfighter

[veteranninja 73]

Calm down guys lol

[a_ruttle 199]

 I mean, modding an AK to LMG status with a drum mag and bipod is just silly.

I wish they'd make the 'tacticool' AKM parts rarer, like the rail handguard, scope and drum mags

[nettles 396]

Again, I'm not saying that military loot shouldn't exist or that there shouldn't be a wide variety, I'm saying the VOLUME of mil-gear is too high.  Especially when all we can really do right now is loot, hunt, and fish.  Looting any military base with multiple buildings will quite commonly yield plenty of vests, rifles, a handful of attachments, magazines if you're lucky, and enough clothes/armor to outfit a small squad.  (higher cap clothes like the TTSKO and Special Forces, cargos, etc...)

 

What're the first things people tend to loot in zombie apocalypse movies? supermarkets, gun stores, police stations, banks, military bases.  It stands to reason that (judging by the state of the buildings (conservatively)) after several months of the apocalypse have passed, these places would have been picked clean of combat gear.  

 

I DIGRESS-

stronger bow yes

compound bow? I'm warming up to the idea, but I still don't want to see laser sights, ridiculous scopes, or explosive arrows, personally.

[Kiwuu 17]

There's also tons of military vests and body armor, a couple different kinds of combat knives, and hecka attachments for guns. I don't mind a couple cool gadgets, but over-the-top military gear should be a lot more rare than it is. Nearly every player I've come across has been wearing a gas mask and a high capacity vest with a fully modded assault rifle or mosin with a compensator, bipod, and scope.  I mean, modding an AK to LMG status with a drum mag and bipod is just silly.

A firearm is a firearm, a bow is a bow. Compound bows like the ones OP showed us are pretty common, i know Chernarus is a small rural country in the middle of nowhere, but hell, at least SOMEONE in Chernarus would have had one. It's not military gear, it's civilian. I agree on the part that it should be rare, though.

[demongornot 23]

A firearm is a firearm, a bow is a bow. Compound bows like the ones OP showed us are pretty common, i know Chernarus is a small rural country in the middle of nowhere, but hell, at least SOMEONE in Chernarus would have had one. It's not military gear, it's civilian. I agree on the part that it should be rare, though.

 

In fact the game need hunting store which can have civil weapon (such as shotgun) surviving gear should also be part of the game and in fact they should be better than military, and when tent and surviving gear (such as combined items) will be in the game, hunting store will be the perfect place for finding civil weapons, SMALL pistol (not the .45, only 9mm and .22) and stuff such as Bow, compound bow, hunting stuff and more...

I live in a 5000 people town and we here have hunting store, i don't know if their is bow, but their is town of fishing and hunting stuff, even decoration blade, real sword, taser, ammo and others stuff like this, even Shuriken.

And i use to life in a 2500 people town (10Km away from where i am) and i know at least someone that have a compound bow, a training one yes but still one, i also know someone why have craft a wood crossbow, and their is a bow association here...So i'm sure that their is more than a single people in 10Km around that have a compound bow (and a target practicing one can also be used for hunt even if its not the best)

Anyway compound bow should shoot slower (time between two arrow) than regular one.

NOT that it should become ridiculously slow, just that in fact we can shoot really fast with a conventional bow, and unlike the ridiculously slow bow draw we always have in video games, a regular way to shoot can be that fast if we are good :

But in fact real fast bow shooting speed is like this : 

We already have a ridiculously too small arrow capacity, and bow are underpowered/imprecise and have ridiculously small range compare to real one...

Based on the mechanical system of the compound bow, it is slower to shoot : 

But it have HELL MORE precision and range than all the damn game always limit it at :

 

So even if they are bring to the equivalent to the REAL ONE, damn it people stop complaining, a lot of people what it and you still have advantage with your damn gun, the ONLY advantage that bow have is the silence (and its not 100% quiet).

In fact if we think about, ammo are NOT unlimited and in case of apocalypse they will be really quickly consumed cause no one will produce them, unlike arrow that can be crafted...

Anyway look here : http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/202269-my-huge-suggestion-list-long-topic/ [5]

And i repeat, hunting store will be a nice addition.

Useless for those who just stay in cities, use military weapons, but useful for those who want to survive in the wild and use civil/hunting weapons or bow/crossbow !

 

[Airfield 50]

A crossbow is just another rendition of the bow. We don't need numerous renditions of the same thing early on in development. We want different things. Once development is farther in, THEN I would imagine they would add non-necessary things like a compound bow. There are also craftable bows that are quite useful.

[demongornot 23]

A crossbow is just another rendition of the bow. We don't need numerous renditions of the same thing early on in development. We want different things. Once development is farther in, THEN I would imagine they would add non-necessary things like a compound bow. There are also craftable bows that are quite useful.

 

This is not cause you don't like those kind of weapon that they should not exist.

You know i can say the same with gun :

We don't need more gun than we actually have, we don't need more riffle we already have pistol and they both fire bullets, or we don't need others pistols since we already have several riffle and others weapons...We don't need more town or bigger map since we already have several one...

OR : http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/203527-new-zombie-types/#entry2045439

We don't need more zombies types since we already have civil and military one.

Yes you will probably find arguments for defending your idea, but i can easily do the same for bow.

And in fact i can simply do better by reminding you THIS :

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/203376-more-aspects-of-wilderness-survival/#entry2044225

 

And NO a bow have NO MORE common point with an arrow than a sword with a spear or a mower with a chainsaw.

Bow are PART of the wilderness survival, crossbow are WAY LESS and even if it is a little more powerful, real crossbow are way less convenient than bow.

 

Bow, and mainly modern compound bow are PART of hunting, and in fact before powder weapon it was for CENTURIES the best way to hunt, so several bow such as two longbow, recurved bow and compound bow WON'T kill anyone, mainly since longbow and recurved bow, even modern fiber one are NOT a hard think to create for 3D artists and a lot of things about archery are already done and will also be done for the actual one, even a second crossbow model will not be a luxury...

 

Having different kind of bow in this stage of the development CAN'T kill anyone, mainly non craftable one...

And mainly compound bow, cause they have complex (short) ballistic and the sight have to be correctly done/Setup for this : http://www.huntersfriend.com/images/sight_selection_guide/pse-f22-big.jpg

So no the craftable bow that we actually have is a piece of s... ridiculously underpowered, way too short distance, too slow, way not enough arrow we can group and the worst precision i have ever see in the history of bow.

Also in real life, YOU WILL WANT to take something such as a modern bow, composite or anything else, or even a compound bow (that don't need to be "disband" and can be ready at any times) and not count on your craftable one...

Crafted arrow are already weak (low penetration, too heavy stone head or too light wood head which have low penetration which mean short range or easy for the wind to affect trajectory) and unpredictable enough (cause a single mistake hard to see with your eyes on its form or the angle of the tail/head will make them flight everywhere except where you aim or broke while hitting the target)...

 

So yes more complex bow are needed and soon as possible, MAINLY those who will require a lot of settings, they can be done over long time to not interfering the game development process, but still get settings based on player report to be ready when the final version of the game will be out, and not having a really bad bow system not even finish when the game is supposed to be.

And if you don't see the difference between a manually crafted bow on the wild like this :

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DlIhtWd4fh0/S-7duCf7dVI/AAAAAAAAABE/0dLUD2sMwRM/s1600/bow+002.JPG

And an industrial, HIGH TECH and high precision with high engineering and level of technology compound bow like this :

http://t3outdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/assassin-jumbo.jpg

You need to buy glasses...

Edited July 17, 2014 by Demongornot

[rybec 339]

A crossbow is just another rendition of the bow. We don't need numerous renditions of the same thing early on in development. We want different things. Once development is farther in, THEN I would imagine they would add non-necessary things like a compound bow. There are also craftable bows that are quite useful.

Let's have just these firearms in the game.

91/30

SKS

AKM

Makarov.

 

If you ask for anymore, don't be so entitled.

Honestly though I'm indifferent about another bow.

This is my compound bow and the best I've shot with it at fifty yards is about a 4-5 inch grouping. It's a neat little hobby,

A picture of a broadhead as well. They will go clean through a body of an elk as long as it doesn't hit bone. The wound it leaves is clean and bleeds horribly.