igor-vk 909 Posted July 12, 2014 How to atach weapon flashlight on new MP5K? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miki_grom 69 Posted July 12, 2014 Can't add it yet,tried alot of times.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alldaypk 63 Posted July 12, 2014 i saw a couple screenies with flashlight attached, would like to know how Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
igor-vk 909 Posted July 12, 2014 I also saw pic of it with flashlight and red dot sight. I gues there is another handgrip, not yet in game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
igor-vk 909 Posted July 12, 2014 I also saw pic of it with flashlight and red dot sight. I gues there is another handgrip, not yet in game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) I also saw pic of it with flashlight and red dot sight. I gues there is another handgrip, not yet in game. Yep, there also appears to be a muzzle attachment (seems to be a flash hider) as well. Unsure if it just magically changes to that muzzle whenever you swap handguards (as a vanilla MP5K does not have a distinct "flash hider" which extends past the handguard). I hope the reason the foregrip is out currently is that they're working on making it compatible with other weapons (i.e. M4A1 and AKM respectively). Edited July 12, 2014 by Katana67 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
igor-vk 909 Posted July 12, 2014 I hope the reason the foregrip is out currently is that they're working on making it compatible with other weapons (i.e. M4A1 and AKM respectively).looks like handguard with rails. In this pic there is that muzzle atachment again: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted July 12, 2014 Unfortunately the BUIS, RV1 and M68 optics don't represent where the gun is actually going to shoot. Way too high.Imagine my disappointment after hunting down dozens of people at airfields and Berezino to get my hands on said attachments only to find out they're not calibrated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted July 12, 2014 Unfortunately the BUIS, RV1 and M68 optics don't represent where the gun is actually going to shoot. Way too high.Imagine my disappointment after hunting down dozens of people at airfields and Berezino to get my hands on said attachments only to find out they're not calibrated.The BUIS aren't meant for MP5 type sights, they're specifically designed for AR type weapons. I think it's a pretty cool feature that you can use all railed attachments on railed weapons, but they don't all serve a useful purpose. (Except the M4 handguard, but I can live without that) Just imagine an ACOG on an MP5K, lol. They really need to do an Eotech or Shortdot sight, though. Actual CQB optics would be really helpful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) They really need to do an Eotech or Shortdot sight, though. Actual CQB optics would be really helpful. Yus, they do. Backwards-mounted Ukrainian Aimpoint T-1 guy would like a word with you. EOTech on PKM (Ukraine) Universal bipod on SVD (Ukraine) Rails on AKS-74U and AKS-74M (which appears to have an abnormal folding stock and suppressor) w/ various optics, and ProTec/OpsCore Helmet (Ukraine) Irregular fighters w/ G36C and railed AR-15 variant (Ukraine) EOTechs, Kobras, Aimpoint M68s, PSO-1, etc. (Ukraine, only link) http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=221393&d=1404685858 As an aside, to anyone who still says railed weapons, "Western" weapons, and attachments are completely unheard of in Eastern Europe and/or the so-called "third world," then how comes I keep finding troves of images demonstrating to the contrary? Edited July 12, 2014 by Katana67 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted July 12, 2014 Yus, they do. Backwards-mounted Ukrainian Aimpoint T-1 guy would like a word with you. EOTech on PKM (Ukraine) Universal bipod on SVD (Ukraine) Rails on AKS-74U and AKS-74M (which appears to have an abnormal folding stock) w/ various optics, and ProTec Helmet (Ukraine) Irregular fighters w/ G36C and railed AR-15 variant (Ukraine) EOTechs, Kobras, Aimpoint M68s, PSO-1, etc. (Ukraine, only link) http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=221393&d=1404685858 Exactly.And to think, that's in a country engulfed in war, with a ruined economy, divided down the middle and being supported by two separate sides, just like Chernarus. That's why there's not too many weapons that you could add and call "unrealistic", because there are innumerable reasons you could logically give for them being there, other than fiction. Even then, Eotechs and other short optics aren't any more unlikely than what we already have (in fact, I'd reckon RDS optics are less common than Eotech 552s). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
igor-vk 909 Posted July 12, 2014 Almost every AK here is diferent, what I would like to see in dayz. Of 40 people on server, there should be 30 diferent weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted July 12, 2014 Almost every AK here is diferent, what I would like to see in dayz. Of 40 people on server, there should be 30 diferent weapons.There's no real need to have that many as the game is, though. Later on, maybe, but what would be the point of adding a Type 56 when it performs almost exactly the same as an AKM? Even a basic SA Vz.58 variant functions completely differently than but has similar performance and aesthetics to an AKM. The only 7.62x39mm AK I feel that we need is the AKMSU, as the current standing is that we won't have 5.45x39mm for an AKS-74U.Great alternative, if you ask me. There are plenty of other 7.62x39mm AKs that have different aesthetics, if they really want to spice up the variety:Russian AK-104Romanian AIMSRomanian AIMRHungarian AMD-65Russian AKU-94These look completely different than the AKM aesthetic wise, but can all use the same magazines and perform the same. Are they needed? No. But they are definitely good for future variety. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted July 12, 2014 There's no real need to have that many as the game is, though. Later on, maybe, but what would be the point of adding a Type 56 when it performs almost exactly the same as an AKM? Even a basic SA Vz.58 variant functions completely differently than but has similar performance and aesthetics to an AKM. The only 7.62x39mm AK I feel that we need is the AKMSU, as the current standing is that we won't have 5.45x39mm for an AKS-74U.Great alternative, if you ask me. There are plenty of other 7.62x39mm AKs that have different aesthetics, if they really want to spice up the variety:Russian AK-104Romanian AIMSRomanian AIMRHungarian AMD-65Russian AKU-94These look completely different than the AKM aesthetic wise, but can all use the same magazines and perform the same. Are they needed? No. But they are definitely good for future variety. Don't give up hope. 5.45x39 might come in due time and then we will see the krinkov along with other fantastic 5.45x39 weapons and the rounds fantastic flat shooting low recoil characteristics. There are so many cool and regionally authentic weapons in 5.45x39 that hopefully it gets added eventually. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Exactly.And to think, that's in a country engulfed in war, with a ruined economy, divided down the middle and being supported by two separate sides, just like Chernarus. That's why there's not too many weapons that you could add and call "unrealistic", because there are innumerable reasons you could logically give for them being there, other than fiction. Even then, Eotechs and other short optics aren't any more unlikely than what we already have (in fact, I'd reckon RDS optics are less common than Eotech 552s). A few other neat pics that I've come across of the Ukrainian crisis with regard to modern weapons. AR-15 w/ CTR stock, suppressor, bipod, and optic (pretty sure a lot of folks have seen this one). AR-15 w/ CTR stock, AFG, bipod, and optic (this may be the same weapon as above, however, there are a few differences. The optic is mounted further back, the suppressor has been removed and to my knowledge, that flash hider does not accept any kind of suppressor. And, the man's gear has changed (see different balaclava and vest). AR-10 variant w/ PRS stock and optic P90 Railed AK w/ generic optic Now if we can just get some Tavors and Fort-cloned Negevs, we'd be in business for a Ukraine-sim. Edited July 12, 2014 by Katana67 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted July 12, 2014 Don't give up hope. 5.45x39 might come in due time and then we will see the krinkov along with other fantastic 5.45x39 weapons and the rounds fantastic flat shooting low recoil characteristics. There are so many cool and regionally authentic weapons in 5.45x39 that hopefully it gets added eventually.(I put a spoiler on your images, you should really do that for long strings of them) I agree with you, 5.45x39mm guns would be cool and fitting. However, they're not necessary by any means. As you can see in your pictures alone, the AK-12 has 7.62x39mm (and .308) variants. The AKS-74U can be an AKMSU, the RPK-74 can be an RPK-47, the Groza has 7.62x39mm and 9x39mm variants, the AK-74M is nearly identical to the AK-102 and very similar to plenty of 7.62x39mm and 5.56x45mm AK-100 rifles. Yes, that means there can be no AN-94, but it's just one minor variant left out.The AK-74 is a pretty big loss, as it'd be a great weapon to have, but in no way is it indicative that we need 5.45x39mm. If the devs ever decide to add it, I'll be very happy, but I'm just saying there's no great incentive for them to do it. I'd honestly rather them add 7.62x54mmR anyway, so we can have weapons like the Mosin, SVT-40, SVD, and PK be separate from M14, FN FAL, G3, M240, M60, and other NATO gun variants. Why? Because there are very few 7.62x51mm conversions of 7.62x54mmR guns, whereas almost every 5.45x39mm gun has a nearly identical equivalent in 7.62x39mm or 5.56x45mm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted July 12, 2014 The AK-74 is a pretty big loss, as it'd be a great weapon to have, but in no way is it indicative that we need 5.45x39mm. If the devs ever decide to add it, I'll be very happy, but I'm just saying there's no great incentive for them to do it. I'd honestly rather them add 7.62x54mmR anyway, so we can have weapons like the Mosin, SVT-40, SVD, and PK be separate from M14, FN FAL, G3, M240, M60, and other NATO gun variants. Why? Because there are very few 7.62x51mm conversions of 7.62x54mmR guns, whereas almost every 5.45x39mm gun has a nearly identical equivalent in 7.62x39mm or 5.56x45mm. Yea hoping 7.62x54r is added eventually perhaps when the SVD is added. I do agree that the lack of a realistically chambered ak74 is a huge loss, pretty sad especially when you consider it perhaps has far more relevance and probably makes more sense to have that weapon alone compared to any other one in game. The Ak74 is the workhorse of just about every baltic and post soviet state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted July 12, 2014 Yea hoping 7.62x54r is added eventually perhaps when the SVD is added. I do agree that the lack of a realistically chambered ak74 is a huge loss, pretty sad especially when you consider it perhaps has far more relevance and probably makes more sense to have that weapon alone compared to any other one in game. The Ak74 is the workhorse of just about every baltic and post soviet state.I don't know that I'd say it has any more relevance than an AKM or SKS or Mosin. Yeah, military wise it'd probably be the standard service rifle, but the AKM would undoubtedly exist in similar numbers in military stocks and even in some civilian or police hands. The SKS & Mosin would also be used heavily by civilians & police forces. It's not a huge deal to me. Yeah, I'd love for an AK-74, but it's not needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) I mean, I don't think the AK-74M (which isn't lost, it'll either be included later or included as the AK-101) represents some sort of monumental loss (mostly because it isn't lost). All of the AK variants that would be included in 5.45x39, have 7.62x39 counterparts. And honest to god, if you're supporting the AN-94 (a hyper-complicated [there's a fucking pulley system inside of it, no joke, it's near block-and-tackle status] weapon that isn't really used at all, solves no problems, and has been popularized/promulgated solely by its inclusion in video games), the AK-12 (a still-rejected rail-encrusted weapon for the Russian military, also popularized almost solely by video games, which was in turn rejected by Torchia [for the wrong reasons] for inclusion in DayZ), and the AS-1/2 (prototypical Kalash Concern weapons used by nobody, which have only seen the fluorescent light of weapons expositions [much less actual field use]) whilst still remaining against things like the SCAR (a weapon system globally exported, has seen combat, utilized by a variety of militaries) and can't see the hypocrisy then I give up. Edited July 12, 2014 by Katana67 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted July 12, 2014 I mean, I don't think the AK-74M (which isn't lost, it'll either be included later or included as the AK-101) represents some sort of monumental loss (mostly because it isn't lost). All of the AK variants that would be included in 5.45x39, have 7.62x39 counterparts. And honest to god, if you're supporting the AN-94 (a hyper-complicated [there's a fucking pulley system inside of it, no joke, it's near block-and-tackle status] weapon that isn't really used at all, solves no problems, and has been popularized/promulgated solely by its inclusion in video games), the AK-12 (a still-rejected rail-encrusted weapon for the Russian military, also popularized almost solely by video games, which was in turn rejected by Torchia [for the wrong reasons] for inclusion in DayZ), and the AS-1/2 (prototypical Kalash Concern weapons used by nobody, which have only seen the fluorescent light of weapons expositions [much less actual field use]) whilst still remaining against things like the SCAR (a weapon system globally exported, has seen combat, utilized by a variety of militaries) and can't see the hypocrisy then I give up. Just demonstrating a diverse cast of rifles in 5.45. Not that diversity is needed of course they could just offer the ak74m , krinkov and rpk 74 and call it a day and all would be fine. However if they absolutely must demonstrate variety it is possible with 5.45 not that it's needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Just demonstrating a diverse cast of rifles in 5.45. Not that diversity is needed of course they could just offer the ak74m , krinkov and rpk 74 and call it a day and all would be fine. However if they absolutely must demonstrate variety it is possible with 5.45 not that it's needed. Or the AKM, AKMSU, and RPK. Because that accomplishes the same objective, getting AK-pattern weapons into the game, without devoting art resources to making a redundant set of near-identical weapons chambered in 5.45x39. Again, a case of redundancy. All of the weapons you listed (with the exception of the AS-1/2) are AK-pattern. Which means to (guessing) most people, it'll look like there's seventeen AKs in the game regardless of whether they're chambered in 5.45 or 7.62. So why would they go through the extra effort of making a whole swath of 5.45x39 weapons, when they can do the same exact thing with 7.62x39? I'm not saying I agree with it (I don't), but acting like it's a net loss just comes off as disingenuous. When they can do the same thing, with fewer art resources, and still remain "authentic" in keeping a variety of AK-pattern weapons in the game. That said, I would love a bullpup AK in the game. AS-1/2 is a good candidate, perhaps even more so than the Vepr/AKU-94 and OTs-14 respectively (seeing as the Vepr is butt-ass ugly in my opinion, and the OTs-14 is more commonly chambered in 9x39 [what is it with the Russians and 39mm case lengths? It's not like 6.8 SPC and .300 BLK have 45mm cases]). Edited July 12, 2014 by Katana67 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
igor-vk 909 Posted July 13, 2014 There's no real need to have that many as the game is, though. Later on, maybe, but what would be the point of adding a Type 56 when it performs almost exactly the same as an AKM? Even a basic SA Vz.58 variant functions completely differently than but has similar performance and aesthetics to an AKM. The only 7.62x39mm AK I feel that we need is the AKMSU, as the current standing is that we won't have 5.45x39mm for an AKS-74U.We dont need diferent weapons as types, but with biger choice of atachments, coulors and now rag camo, we can have 3 or 4 AK variants in unique 20 custom versions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites