NinjaTurkey 255 Posted July 10, 2014 So weve all been there, been punched and lost gear. Punched someone and took their gear. Quite honestly its the easy way to gear up. Obviously its partly the victims fault for not paying attention but i also find it to be a bit of a cheap way to play the game.Now im not saying remove it, its basic defence in the early stages. However i think we should encourage players to use an actual weapon. I suggest we allow a chance to break your hand if you punch something hard. This would mean you cant fire a weapon. Or pick up items to use. (They can still be moved into inventory). If you punch someone in the head then you could break your hand and even more chance if they have a helmet.I believe this will make people think twice before they try to one hit k/o you with fists. Dont take out one hit k/o it should still be possible but i think people should maybe find a blunt instrument to do it with if they want any chance of success. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newguyzombie 122 Posted July 10, 2014 no its fine as hell. if you get punshed and gearstolen, your fault Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted July 10, 2014 Punching is fine as it is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NinjaTurkey 255 Posted July 10, 2014 Im guessing your the guys that one hit k/o to gear up and rejoin the fight at berezino? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Zod 1118 Posted July 10, 2014 Punching is fine as it is.Right...Punching a guy in a ballistic or a motorcycle helmet ends up in him being out cold instead of me breaking my hands. Sounds legit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newguyzombie 122 Posted July 10, 2014 Im guessing your the guys that one hit k/o to gear up and rejoin the fight at berezino?you guessed wrong, i did this once or twice in 4 month of playing. but it gives more intense to the game. and makes you to chose if you kill that freshspawn or let him pass and keep an eye on him.and if you are to silly to take out a freshspawn, who trys to knocks you out. then losing your gear is what you deserve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newguyzombie 122 Posted July 10, 2014 Right...Punching a guy in a ballistic or a motorcycle helmet ends up in him being out cold instead of me breaking my hands. Sounds legit. you are not able knock out a guy with a motorcycle helmet with 2-4 hits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Zod 1118 Posted July 10, 2014 you are not able knock out a guy with a motorcycle helmet with 2-4 hits.I shouldn't be able to knock him out at all. Those things are designed to protect users head from high speed impacts against hard surfaces, unless you're super man you're not punching through that, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted July 10, 2014 Right...Punching a guy in a ballistic or a motorcycle helmet ends up in him being out cold instead of me breaking my hands. Sounds legit. Motorcycle helmet protects you from being easy knocked out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted July 10, 2014 I shouldn't be able to knock him out at all. Those things are designed to protect users head from high speed impacts against hard surfaces, unless you're super man you're not punching through that, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Zod 1118 Posted July 10, 2014 First one is not knock out, guy is concious Second one is fake, please tell me you see that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted July 10, 2014 First one is not knock out, guy is concious Second one is fake, please tell me you see that. Few more punches and he will be unconscious, just like in DayZ. So I stay with my opinion, that punching system that is now in DayZ is pretty much perfect as it is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Zod 1118 Posted July 10, 2014 Few more punches and he will be unconscious, just like in DayZ. So I stay with my opinion, that punching system that is now in DayZ is pretty much perfect as it is.Few more punches with full strength and he will break some bones or at least damage knuckles and tendons, rendering his hand unusable. Go ahead guys punch something hard few times as hard as you can and report with results. Even boxers wear a lot of hand protection plus gloves and they only punch naked flesh. But some random guy can punch motorcycle helmet several times and he'll be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted July 10, 2014 Few more punches with full strength and he will break some bones or at least damage knuckles and tendons, rendering his hand unusable. Go ahead guys punch something hard few times as hard as you can and report with results. Even boxers wear a lot of hand protection plus gloves and they only punch naked flesh. But some random guy can punch motorcycle helmet several times and he'll be fine. Naw naw, not a motorcycle helmet. The human in motorcycle helmet. And the human in motorcycle helmet will be lucky if he only end unconscious (and not ded or with brain shock or something) after someone go berserk on him with fists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeefBacon 1185 Posted July 10, 2014 I agree, certainly it should be near impossible to knock someone out who's wearing a helmet with fists alone. Maybe when using fists there should be a chance to break your arms, though as far as I know breaking arms doesn't really have any effect on gameplay. I'm like to see fists massively nerfed, but to have low-tier melee weapons like wrenches, knives and screwdrivers buffed. After all, you'll have an easier time killing something with a hammer than with your hands... unless you're The Mountain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Zod 1118 Posted July 10, 2014 Naw naw, not a motorcycle helmet. The human in motorcycle helmet. And the human in motorcycle helmet will be lucky if he only end unconscious (and not ded or with brain shock or something) after someone go berserk on him with fists.Motorcycle helmet is designed to absorb the shocks, seriously, that thing is meant to protect your head from shocks, not let them trough. What good is a helmet that does not do that ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted July 10, 2014 Motorcycle helmet is designed to absorb the shocks, seriously, that thing is meant to protect your head from shocks, not let them trough. What good is a helmet that does not do that ? Naw, you see motorcycle helmet has as much to do with protecting from shocks as army helmet with protecting from bullets.. Motorcycle helmet is there to help your brain/head not get too much damage and possibly help you to survive but it not in any way protect you from going unconscious from impacts, even from fists. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Zod 1118 Posted July 10, 2014 Naw, you see motorcycle helmet has as much to do with protecting from shocks as army helmet with protecting from bullets.. Motorcycle helmet is there to help your brain/head not get too much damage and possibly help you to survive but it not in any way protect you from going unconscious from impacts, even from fists.Mmmmkey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NinjaTurkey 255 Posted July 10, 2014 MmmmkeyYou cannot reason with this, so yeah Mmmmmkey is a valid response haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airfield 50 Posted July 10, 2014 Punching does bring a lot to the game, but I feel that inflicting a punch to the head resulting in an instant knockout is quite unruly. I feel that it should take numerous hits to the head, and that instead players can get broken noses, concussions, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guilau 28 Posted July 10, 2014 Naw, you see motorcycle helmet has as much to do with protecting from shocks as army helmet with protecting from bullets.. Motorcycle helmet is there to help your brain/head not get too much damage and possibly help you to survive but it not in any way protect you from going unconscious from impacts, even from fists. He's totally right. Unconsciousness comes from concussion. And concussion is shock applied to your brain that is being shaken in your skull.Unless the helmet is made of some kind of material that absorbs force applied. Physics laws say that the brain will still receive the final force of impact.The helmet prevents that your skull is being fractured.Look at amateur boxing : they all wear helmet. Nobody get a nose bleed but there still plenty of KOs 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Zod 1118 Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Unless the helmet is made of some kind of material that absorbs force applied. It is god damn it. That's the whole point. http://alivetoride.com/how_does_a_motorcycle_helmet_protect How Does A Motorcycle Helmet Protect?Helmets offer two types of protection. The outer shell protects against puncture and abrasion - without it your skin and bone of your head would be scrapping across the road. The inner liner absorbs shock energy by slowly collapsing under impact - if not for this absorption all of the energy from a crash would be transferred to your head instead. The shell and liner sacrifice themselves by spreading the forces of impact throughout the helmet material opposed to the energy being directed to your head. Edited July 10, 2014 by General Zod 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rigor Mortis (DayZ) 141 Posted July 10, 2014 It is god damn it. That's the whole point. http://alivetoride.com/how_does_a_motorcycle_helmet_protectLol - you're absolutely right, but this made me laugh when I saw that someone actually argued that helmets don't absorb applied forces and you had to explain it ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mullraugh 1151 Posted July 10, 2014 DayZ Characters: Able to sprint without tiring with over 100 pounds of gear across a country. Unable to take a punch to the face like a man and gets instantly knocked out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Zod 1118 Posted July 10, 2014 Lol - you're absolutely right, but this made me laugh when I saw that someone actually argued that helmets don't absorb applied forces and you had to explain it ^^I know right. And instead of just googling it they bring up physics laws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
