Vehicles & how I think they should work ingame

[archamedes 238]

I like most are really looking forward to vehicles because it will be a big game changer, but I feel they should be unarmed vehicles. Civillian cars, trucks, vans etc... yes. I even think that civillian aircraft such as cesners and news/police helicopters will work too, because those are the sort of things you would find at an airfield. I think where it will all go wrong is when they start to militarize them, The one thing I hated about the mod was the fact I would drive around in an old pick up truck, then out of nowhere a fucking Blackhawk armed with twin miniguns would appear over the hill & open up on me. Because Dayz then just became arma 2 again. I even think the odd unarmed military Humvee would work because again as I said earlier, its what you would find at a military base or when a zombie outbreak kicks off. You should have the option as a car passenger to fire your gun out the window but not have any 50 cal guns or stupid high calibre missile launchers or miniguns attached to them.

 

it will be a more ruthless kill on sight game than it is now if vehicles are armed, because you cant run and hide like you could if someone was chasing after you. That said i think it would be awesome to have the option as a passenger to shoot out the window. It at least gives you a better chance to run to the other side where he cant get the angle on you (unless there is one in each seat or you get run over first.) In the mod someone would be mounted on a 50 cal in a Humvee and spray rounds in your direction eventually getting a lucky hit. it was too easy. Can you imagine trying to shoot single rounds from the mosin at a player in a moving vehicle while the player is trying to dodge your shots? A lot more fair for the player and a bigger challenge for the car passenger.

 

I also like the idea of customizing your car and repairing it when it gets damaged, those spraypaint cans finally get to be used for their original purpose. Cut down wood or smelt metal to create protective covers for your windows mad max style, that sort of thing.

[frosti 2165]

 

. I even think that civillian aircraft such as cesners and news/police helicopters will work too, because those are the sort of things you would find at an airfield.

 

Not in the 80's in Chernorus, specially on the part of the map where DayZ takes place.

[HeySon 4]

I also like the idea of customizing your car and repairing it when it gets damaged, those spraypaint cans finally get to be used for their original purpose. Cut down wood or smelt metal to create protective covers for your windows mad max style, that sort of thing.

 

Hell yes! :D

[Richard III in Leicester 200]

Mod didn't have any militarised vehicles in it.... The mod actually made by rocket I mean. Epoch and all the other spinoffs or the team deathmatch private hives had military everywhere but you can't blame DayZ for that, they were just in the game files from ArmA2 and so on. 

 

But as for your basic point of 'please no military madness in the standalone', I fully agree.

Bikes, handcarts for railways and some Ladas be all we need ;)

Lets go.

 

Edit - I forgot the mod did have the Huey and the Mi. But I never thought they were out of place.

Edited June 25, 2014 by Richard III in Leicester

[Kaboki 62]

 then out of nowhere a fucking Blackhawk armed with twin miniguns would appear over the hill & open up on me. Because Dayz then just became arma 2 again.

 

If they make helicopters and mil jets as hard to fly as in the simulator 'DCS World', then Im all in for having them, because then it would actually take some skill to fly them(atleast a 6 months+ learning progress). If not leave em out, because having every average Joe out there being uber skilled fighter pilots is so damn unrealistic and in a real apocalypse only trained fighter pilots would be able to fly'em. Cars wether mil or not everyone can use so having them Im okay with ^_^

 

Or atleast make the helis simulate 'vortex ringstate', that would atleast keep 90% of us on ground(or crash into the ground) :D

Edited June 25, 2014 by Kaboki

[Karmaterror 982]

OK what bastardisation of dayz was your flavour? epoch?....overwatch? Get ya self on a vanilla mod server, no black hawks, worst youl see is a huey, and only the one on each server. I don't mind the door guns on those because sitting in that seat is a death sentence. Alls it takes is a well placed half mag from an assault rifle and bye bye gunner, pilot if ya get lucky. Good snipers love it when they hear a heli approaching.   

 

I agree land vehicles should remain unarmed....maybe armoured, but not armed. They have a massive concealment advantage over something like a heli. Not to mention how much quieter they are.

 

Another thing is don't be surprised how hard it is to shoot from a moving platform as apposed to shooting at a moving target. If I had to choose between heli door gun trying to hit a survivor as heli makes evasive vs being planted on the ground with a rifle compensating for the helis movement.....il take ground with rifle any day :)

 

Defo up for cobbling together cars. Id like to see them actually missing bodywork and stuff....."improvised bonnet"....."improvised wing" ect ect, get our rides looking properly post apocalyptic :)

[Bororm 1156]

The only armed vehicle in the vanilla mod was the huey, with 2 machine guns (m240s I think?).  No blackhawks with mini guns unless you were playing a mod of the mod.  They were not terribly effective for actually shooting people unless you were super pro aces sharp shooter, and had a really good pilot that could keep things stable while not making you a sitting duck.  More often then not, if some one was shooting at you, staying steady with one you could snipe him out easily.  Before anyone jumps on my dick about how they totally shot dudes, yes I'm not saying they were useless and I used to shoot guys too, but I think anyone can agree they were better for suppressing than actually killing.

 

I never really cared for armed ground vehicles, especially things like armored humvees/suvs in a lot of the other mods.  The armored stuff was really lame.  I don't want to see any vehicle you can't reasonably counter to some degree with a rifle.  Even if it's more just shooting out the tires, or shooting out the gunner.  I know some of the mods had vehicles where it would take multiple .50 cal shots to shoot out the tires alone and that shit was dumb.

 

I suppose I wouldn't mind trading the mounted helicopter guns for being able to shoot out as a passenger.  Of course then you'll have dudes hovering 1000m out sniping instead, and people using LMGs any ways.  If multiple passengers can shoot you end up with an even deadlier aircraft.  If you restrict it, then you may as well leave it to mounted guns only.

[Karmaterror 982]

 

I suppose I wouldn't mind trading the mounted helicopter guns for being able to shoot out as a passenger.  Of course then you'll have dudes hovering 1000m out sniping instead, and people using LMGs any ways.  If multiple passengers can shoot you end up with an even deadlier aircraft.  If you restrict it, then you may as well leave it to mounted guns only.

 

I could so go for that instead of mounted guns. With us having ToH engine parts then hopefully there will be a bit of sway/drift to any auto-hover function, add to that rifle sway, and while possible a 1000m headshot compensating for heli drif and weapon sway and windage and weather would be a one in a million shot :)

[archamedes 238]

Yeah i should have specified in my opening post, I played the Epoch version of DayZ as I didn't enjoy the basic mod on its own. I used to be on a server where there was an equal amount of heros and Bandits and everyone got along on side chat. if you died by another player you didn't bitch about it,  but towards the end, the server just got Fraped. People were flying around in armed Blackhawks and blowing up peoples locked vehicles when they weren't online and generally being a menace. It became a competition to see who was top gun on the server who had the biggest and best armed vehicles and they would wipe out anyone else who tried to follow in their footsteps. In the end it just wasn't DayZ anymore it just felt like it was a bad day in the Ukraine... with zombies thrown in. The admins decided to change servers (I don't see how that really solved the problem when anyone could just join the new server) As a result everyone lost their bases and gear which killed off the community because it took fucking ages to build up a really nice base with a helipad on the roof, not to mention the ultra rare items you couldn't just get from a trader.

Edited June 25, 2014 by archamedes

[Kaboki 62]

As a result everyone lost their bases and gear which killed off the community because it took fucking ages to build up a really nice base with a helipad on the roof

 

Lol, I really hope that dayz never comes to the point that we are able to have million dollar mansions with helipads on the roof, that would be the day I quit playing dayz. We are survivors not a got damn bunch of John Travoltas with airstips on our lawn ^_^

[Karmaterror 982]

Yeah i should have specified in my opening post, I played the Epoch version of DayZ as I didn't enjoy the basic mod on its own. I used to be on a server where there was an equal amount of heros and Bandits and everyone got along on side chat. if you died by another player you didn't bitch about it,  but towards the end, the server just got Fraped. People were flying around in armed Blackhawks and blowing up peoples locked vehicles when they weren't online and generally being a menace. It became a competition to see who was top gun on the server who had the biggest and best armed vehicles and they would wipe out anyone else who tried to follow in their footsteps. In the end it just wasn't DayZ anymore it just felt like it was a bad day in the Ukraine... with zombies thrown in. The admins decided to change servers (I don't see how that really solved the problem when anyone could just join the new server) As a result everyone lost their bases and gear which killed off the community because it took fucking ages to build up a really nice base with a helipad on the roof, not to mention the ultra rare items you couldn't just get from a trader.

 

One thing I really hope is that we cant lock them in the SA.....it would kill my endgame..

 

Find epic camp of top group on server(or friendly group, anyone really)>>

Move all there cars to a diff location>>

Hold for ransom of one can of mountain dew depsited on NWA tower at a precice time>>

If not pic of smouldering wrecks goes on server forums 5 mins after deadline :).....(if its a friendly group they get an extension...bandits group no mercy) 

[archamedes 238]

Yeah i have to admit It did start to get stupid with the amount of bases and base building options you were given. some guy created a 100 foot high cross shaped base you could see for miles. I like the idea of keeping it down to the apocalyptic realism where you barricade and fortify with the stuff you have at hand, and can do basic crafting with certain tools.

 

In fact i remember a time when I was in my base doing crafting and out of nowhere i heard "Ride of the Valkyrie" blast out of my speakers. I was like wtf is that? I went outside and there were 2 helicopters hovering over my base and they opened fire on it, the music was being blared out over direct chat. It was hillarious but also scary as fuck

Edited June 25, 2014 by archamedes

[dgeesio 1034]

aslong as i have my blue love bus im happy B)

[gibonez 3633]

I don't care how they work as long a they lower the movement speed to realistic levels and add stamina so you cant sprint for 4 days straight

[alsmir 255]

Epoch isn't DayZ.

 

Mod has Hueys with two m240s at the sides and it was pain in the ass to hit anything if you weren't hovering and hovering was a suicide.

 

 

I just want realistic offroad speeds for the cars.

[gibonez 3633]

Epoch isn't DayZ.

 

Mod has Hueys with two m240s at the sides and it was pain in the ass to hit anything if you weren't hovering and hovering was a suicide.

 

 

I just want realistic offroad speeds for the cars.

[foxdie_01 121]

Am i the only one that doesn't actually want vehicles. When you can traverse any point of the map, within minutes with near impunity it reduces the scale, and defies the survival element of the game. It also drastically unbalances the game in favour of the minority who can skip between crash sites and airfields in a moments notice sweeping up the loot which ultimately results in bored top tier users resorting to PVP for entertainment, instead of survival.

 

If you want a project to work on within a team, perhaps base building or fortification would be better as its advantages are limited to a static location.

Edited June 25, 2014 by foxdie_01

[frosti 2165]

Am i the only one that doesn't actually want vehicles. When you can traverse any point of the map, within minutes with near impunity it reduces the scale, and defies the survival element of the game. It also drastically unbalances the game in favour of the minority who can skip between crash sites and airfields in a moments notice sweeping up the loot which ultimately results in bored top tier users resorting to PVP for entertainment, instead of survival.

 

If you want a project to work on within a team, perhaps base building or fortification would be better as its advantages are limited to a static location.

 

But now we are vechicles. 30km/h all terrian vechicle. Fueled by canned food and drinks.

[archamedes 238]

I think any vehicle in an apocalypse be it zombie or natural plague is an absolute basic necessity. Yes it reduces the risk when you are on the road to get from a to b, but there have been many times when playing the mod I would pull up to a building, loot it and run out to a hail of gunfire only to see my precious lada getting driven away by a bandit. Its no different than a bandit looting your corpse

Edited June 25, 2014 by archamedes

[BimmerTheOldSkoolGamer 6]

I just want a bicycle... :(

 

[Street Elite 14]

We should stick with bikes.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Smelt metal eh?  Just head on down to your local smelter and voila, magical metal.  I really don't think anyone is understanding what an apocalypse means.

[frosti 2165]

Smelt metal eh?  Just head on down to your local smelter and voila, magical metal.  I really don't think anyone is understanding what an apocalypse means.

 

It mean free items from supermarket, no police so you can do whatever you want and free health care in hospitals!

 

PS.

 

Also free fuel on gas station! Yay apocalypse!

Edited June 25, 2014 by Frosti

[archamedes 238]

Smelt metal eh?  Just head on down to your local smelter and voila, magical metal.  I really don't think anyone is understanding what an apocalypse means.

 

A hot campfire or oven (Now an option ingame) would be able to smelt metal, apocalypse or not, we have been able to enjoy the miracle of fire since the stone age & had the ability to smelt metal since the iron age, that was a couple of years before the human race de evolved into retarded iphone/facebook addicts, but I think if an apocalypse happened, we would have the basic tools at our disposal to do it.

Edited June 25, 2014 by archamedes