Wood mills and quarries + machinery

[UltimateGentleman 355]

So it's not really definite that you'll ever find an axe or pickaxe or stones/firewood.

 

 

What if there was a wood mill, where there were trees you could put in it(exactly like what you get in Skyrim) as a way to get firewood and a quarry with some machine to break rocks(that you can't drive out of the quarry)

 

Before you say "urgh that's too easy! blah blah blah!" not really, machinery makes a lot of noise and that noise attracts people and maybe zombies it's by no means a safe option.

If you can even get to the machines too since bandits will likely camp nearby.

 

 

So it's not a perfect solution but is a last resort, every axe and pickaxe after a few hours in a 64bit server could just have been broken and all the food could have been eaten besides animals so by the point the game gets harder and harder it would be your only option to go to one of these places, hope nobody is there, fight your way through or trade some things for wood/stones or hope that you can sneak in and collect any leftovers.

 

Thoughts?

In post apocalyptic situations you always see groups holding up some key location with a valuable resource so it makes sense for something like that to happen in game.

In future this would be really cool especially when we can have signs to indicate trading posts or no entry zones, it would add a cool survival element instead of "there's no stuff in this server, let's go to a new one"

[enforcer1975 1111]

...Electricity...or do you want to run it on the batteries of your flashlight? And before you say i'll take my house generator..those machines usually need 380V to work. And do you have the equipment that you need to bring the log to the sawmill?

A you usually have man powered devices as last resort and not the other way around...

[pale1776 375]

I would love to take a captured bandit to the mill, an strap him to belt running to.the sawblade :3

[Gekkonidae 270]

I do like the idea of an abandoned quarry where you could go and mine some of the rock there yourself. DayZ Origins mod had a couple of abandoned quarries you could gather rock from. It was nice, but snipers loved to camp them for people looking to mine. Cannot tell you how many times I was shot at while mining. I agree with the wood mill needing electricity though. I think using an axe to collect a bunch of wood is fine the way it is. I mean there are a shitload of trees everywhere you look on the map.

[BeefBacon 1185]

Maybe later on we could build nuclear reactors and power armour.

 

I don't see how this has any place in DayZ. Small camps and maybe wooden palisades is, what I imagine to be, the extent of the building in DayZ. I doubt we'll be able to rebuild Devil's Castle in its prime because we have access to a quarry.

[Damnyourdeadman 1045]

Tbh i would like to see machinery ingame.

Not talking about,like a whole factory assembly line machinery,just a drill,a saw blade

and preety much the equipment that people carry to their garages,just enough

to open a workshop in my base,sustained by a generator. :)

[UltimateGentleman 355]

...Electricity...or do you want to run it on the batteries of your flashlight? And before you say i'll take my house generator..those machines usually need 380V to work. And do you have the equipment that you need to bring the log to the sawmill?

A you usually have man powered devices as last resort and not the other way around...

 

Have you noticed the street lights in game?

 

Because I have.

IE there is electricity, unless it was turned off it wouldn't just go off after a few days/weeks so it's plausible that it would be on unless the game is set like 5-10 years after the outrbreak, which is doubtful.

 

 

I doubt we'll be able to rebuild Devil's Castle in its prime because we have access to a quarry.

 

Guess I wasn't clear I mean literally just for stones and a mill for firewood.

Because if there are no axes or pickaxes left, what are you supposed to do? With persistent loot you'd just have to leave the server or not play again until it reset, it would be impossible to survive unless you had all the ammo in the server and could just murder everything.

 

Currently you hardly ever see stones, or they're like in a house randomly so it's not ideal obviously not final but I doubt they'll have them everywhere in future.

 

It would get to the point where a selection of people had all the axes, firewood, stones and pickaxes so at that point you'd be forced to not play or just kill people or maybe, just maybe trade with them and be nice.

 

If a server held 100 people and the loot only got reset like once every two weeks by that second week it would be almost unplayable unless they greatly increase the spawns of all loot which would suck even more.

 

 

I'd love the challenge of having to sneak or storm my way in to one of these places that bandits have sectioned off for themselves. It'd be like when they try to take the prison in Walking Dead but hopefully without the tank.

 

 

Also adds another battlefield, airfields are boring more often than not you just get sniped from miles away instead of people having legit firefights with you.

Edited June 3, 2014 by UltimateGentleman

[doublebrain 255]

I wonder how you want to get a tree into a wood mill without an axe. ;)

Tbh I think the idea pretty bad for DayZ. And its actually a good thing if not everyone could find a pickaxe/ axe very easy. Also that you need extra space if you want to carry both, axe and pickaxe so you can cut trees and gather stone. Its good for teamplay and player interaction.

[BeefBacon 1185]

 

Currently you hardly ever see stones, or they're like in a house randomly so it's not ideal obviously not final but I doubt they'll have them everywhere in future.

 

 

 

I imagine that they'll become a lot more common. Might even be a 'forage' option for them, who can say?

 

Plus wouldn't respawning loot deal with a lack of pickaxes? I thought persistent loot only pertained to things like car parts and extremely rare weapons? I may be wrong on that.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Have you noticed the street lights in game?

 

Because I have.

IE there is electricity, unless it was turned off it wouldn't just go off after a few days/weeks so it's plausible that it would be on unless the game is set like 5-10 years after the outrbreak, which is doubtful.

 

maybe not for long...nobody knows how far in the apocalypse the game is but is not a couple of days or weks...if you look at how degraded some things look it has to be at least months and no electrical grid will be working that long without maintenance.

Edited June 4, 2014 by Enforcer

[Lady Kyrah 1110]

...Electricity...or do you want to run it on the batteries of your flashlight? And before you say i'll take my house generator..those machines usually need 380V to work. And do you have the equipment that you need to bring the log to the sawmill?

A you usually have man powered devices as last resort and not the other way around...

They also need a lot of watts. Portable generators are  what, 2000-6000 watts? an space heater eat 1000 to 3000 watts, just to give you an idea of what any industrial machine might eat.

[UltimateGentleman 355]

I imagine that they'll become a lot more common. Might even be a 'forage' option for them, who can say?

 

Plus wouldn't respawning loot deal with a lack of pickaxes? I thought persistent loot only pertained to things like car parts and extremely rare weapons? I may be wrong on that.

 

Well I'd imagine they'll not respawn everything with server resets in future in the beginning it's way too easy to survive so they'll want to change that.

Or at least fans will moan at them until they do...

 

I don't think they will add a forage option, not when they added mining and cutting, it would make it too easy then there's basically an unlimited supply.

 

 

maybe not for long...nobody knows how far in the apocalypse the game is but is not a couple of days or weks...if you look at how degraded some things look it has to be at least months and no electrical grid will be working that long without maintenance.

 

Well it doesn't look like the place was very modern anyway sure seems like some relatively poor area I think they'd mostly have been like that anyway just without all the windows being smashed.

 

Maybe they could add some kind of electrical grid so if bandits are holding up the quarry or mill, put the electricity off so some have to leave and put it on.

Or they could just not need electricity, wood mill could be exactly like the one in Skyrim where it's water powered and the quarry machinery could just need fuel.

 

I mean more drivable machinery in the quarry but maybe the wheels are broken so it's only useful for smashing rocks in front of it.

[BeefBacon 1185]

Well I'd imagine they'll not respawn everything with server resets in future in the beginning it's way too easy to survive so they'll want to change that.

Or at least fans will moan at them until they do...

 

I don't think they will add a forage option, not when they added mining and cutting, it would make it too easy then there's basically an unlimited supply.

 

 

Oh, they're actually adding mining? Interesting. Do you know if we'll be able to mine from any rocks, or just in a quarry? I'd assume the former.

[enforcer1975 1111]

They also need a lot of watts. Portable generators are  what, 2000-6000 watts? an space heater eat 1000 to 3000 watts, just to give you an idea of what any industrial machine might eat.

 

Not only that...you can't just take any type of power line and use it with 380V. We have a lot of milling machines and lathes in the company i'm working in not long ago we blew the fuse out of the connection to the landline a couple of times due to overheating. Nobody thought the power line could be overloaded until then ( hot summer + heat from the electricity ). So when they put a new power line in our emergency electricity for that day was supplied by a truck from the municipal works carrying 3 huge diesel generators. Now we have solar panels that supply more than we need.

Edited June 4, 2014 by Enforcer

[UltimateGentleman 355]

Oh, they're actually adding mining? Interesting. Do you know if we'll be able to mine from any rocks, or just in a quarry? I'd assume the former.

 

 

They have added it in experimental I believe not tried it myself so I don't know if it's specific rocks or anything. Can't really think of many rocky places in the map really.

So with the quarry and mill I'm just thinking of one last desperate way to get stones and wood, otherwise the spawns would have to be silly.

Picks and axes are great weapons too so it wouldn't make sense if they added loads everyone could just get kitted out in minutes and not have to worry about zombies.

Plus axes at least break pretty quick when you cut trees with them so if they weren't spawning in often it would get to the point where nobody had a working axe, assuming they stayed on one server.

 

 

I'd rather have some last option than just have to leave a server to get a couple of things, it just feels cheap.