DayZ mod better then Standalone?

[frosti 2165]

I'm the only one that feels like DayZ mod is currently more fun to play then Standalone?

 

And surprise, the zombies are much more better and fun in the mod then in standalone imho.

[maninthewall 470]

Well no sh*t sherlock

[energeticsheep 95]

Since it's clear you browse the forums often (judging by your significant amount of posts) I'm surprised you haven't realised that a pathfinding feature is being worked on for the Zombies in order to fix them glitching through walls, etc. thus meaning that the zombies will be more better.

 

Plus, I'm bringing up the old excuse now of the game still being in Alpha and under heavy development.

[patriots20068@yahoo.com 100]

In the current stage, in my opinion, the mod is better than standalone because you got so many different options, more variety of weapons, more to do, etc. I can only play standalone for a few hours before I'm bored. I can play the mod endlessly (played Epoch for a total of 24 hours this past weekend). However, I do think standalone will be way better once everything is said and done. Can't wait to play Epoch on standalone. If that'll even be possible.

[Element47 2481]

comparing the mod which - despite its limitations due to being an arma mod - has had its share of gameplay-oriented updates and polish (a salute to R4Z0R49 and the team at this place for their outstanding work) to the standalone which - contrary to the mod - does not focus on gameplay elements yet, is a bit unfair.

 

 

of course it depends on your definition of fun and your expectations. but i would expect the mod to be more fun to people looking for a smooth gaming experience. which you should not be expecting from the SA at this stage of development.

[Mos1ey 6301]

The mod was great but the fact that it's so hard to find populated vanilla servers renders it obsolete for me.

 

Apparently I'm the only person that doesn't want to play Wasteland with zombies.

Edited June 2, 2014 by Mos1ey

[Nihoggr 16]

The mod was great but the fact that it's so hard to find populated vanilla servers renders it obsolete for me.

 

Apparently I'm the only person that doesn't want to play Wasteland with zombies.

 What a coincidence: I'm the only person as well!

[Mos1ey 6301]

 What a coincidence: I'm the only person as well!

 

[deebz1234 243]

hah try overpoch.

 

its maximum to the extreme

 

every feature you could imagine, too bad they cant port this stuff to arma 3.

 

OP you should try breaking point arma 3, its 10x what SA is at the moment.

 

its like dayz mod but all beautiful and shiny on arma 3 with 3-4 different maps and a custom maed map coming soon

[Element47 2481]

see thats the great thing about the SA. The cancer of private hives has not yet begun metastasizing.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

see thats the great thing about the SA. The cancer of private hives has not yet begun metastasizing.

Oh just wait.  Multiple hives and mods will once again step in and segregate the community and leave the majority of servers empty except for the uber popular one that has zero surviving and is just a pvp bore fest.  I hope it does not come to this but if the mod was any indication.... well we'll let that speak for itself.

[FrostDMG 398]

Oh just wait.  Multiple hives and mods will once again step in and segregate the community and leave the majority of servers empty except for the uber popular one that has zero surviving and is just a pvp bore fest.  I hope it does not come to this but if the mod was any indication.... well we'll let that speak for itself.

 

Wat? Loads of really good, stable and well admined hardcore servers were very popular in the Mod - look at DayZero for example. Hell, there's even Vanilla servers.

 

Mods will definitely divide the community, however,PUBLIC HIVE brings many more problems to the game than mods do.

Edited June 2, 2014 by FrostDMG

[execpro22 128]

see thats the great thing about the SA. The cancer of private hives has not yet begun metastasizing.

 

 

Dreading this day...

 

When will people realize that by adding all that junk they are basically making the game a shell of what it is supposed to be....

[FrostDMG 398]

Dreading this day...

 

When will people realize that by adding all that junk they are basically making the game a shell of what it is supposed to be....

 

Serverhopping is the real problem man. That's the beauty of private hives. No server hopping for loot or in-game advantage. Gotta love it.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Serverhopping is the real problem man. That's the beauty of private hives. No server hopping for loot or in-game advantage. Gotta love it.

Easiest solution to server hopping is creating one character per server.  This is how it should have been done from the get go.  Not only does it remove server hopping, it also allows communities to grow on servers that people enjoy.

[execpro22 128]

Serverhopping is the real problem man. That's the beauty of private hives. No server hopping for loot or in-game advantage. Gotta love it.

 

 

Yeah i get what your saying, but that basically takes away the persistence factor of the game as you can only play on that one hive. Thats more of a dealbreaker for me.

 

 

 

Server hopping is and will always be there, but the dev team is working on ways to comabt this such as respawning loot etc...

[FrostDMG 398]

Easiest solution to server hopping is creating one character per server.  This is how it should have been done from the get go.  Not only does it remove server hopping, it also allows communities to grow on servers that people enjoy.

 

Whats the difference between private hives and public hive then? The game will be improved by having fan made mods and server admins will finally have the proper privileges without the worry of repercussions for kicking/banning exploiters, cheaters and other dickheads.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Whats the difference between private hives and public hive then? The game will be improved by having fan made mods and server admins will finally have the proper privileges without the worry of repercussions for kicking/banning exploiters, cheaters and other dickheads.

Segregating the community for starters.  The community is already in shambles with the post that Torchia made about not making multiple calibers for weapons.  All that's going to do is force players to use specific mods to create the game they want and by doing that separates the community even more.  There is a reason why MMO's don't allow mods, addons yes, but not mods.

[FrostDMG 398]

Segregating the community for starters.  The community is already in shambles with the post that Torchia made about not making multiple calibers for weapons.  All that's going to do is force players to use specific mods to create the game they want and by doing that separates the community even more.  There is a reason why MMO's don't allow mods, addons yes, but not mods.

 

This isn't an MMO though. Allowing people to create their own type of survival is something that will keep DayZ alive in the long run. A lot of people would've burned out on Chernarus if it wasn't for the Taviana, Namlask, Podagorsk and others. 

 

Sure, having 100 different Epoch mods isn't ideal, but I'd rather allow all the Epoch bullshit than have no private servers.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

This isn't an MMO though. Allowing people to create their own type of survival is something that will keep DayZ alive in the long run. A lot of people would've burned out on Chernarus if it wasn't for the Taviana, Namlask, Podagorsk and others. 

 

Sure, having 100 different Epoch mods isn't ideal, but I'd rather allow all the Epoch bullshit than have no private servers.

I personally think that the devs sticking with Chernarus was a big mistake.  They should have done a totally different map.  I am all for having different maps but what I would rather see is them connecting maps together into one big mega server :D.  Fat chance I know

[gibonez 3633]

I personally think that the devs sticking with Chernarus was a big mistake. They should have done a totally different map. I am all for having different maps but what I would rather see is them connecting maps together into one big mega server :D. Fat chance I know

Ideally I would have loved a completely procedurally generated map.

Imagine each server having completely different maps.

[Cap'n (DayZ) 1827]

I just don't  have any motivation to return to the mod. I prefer the standalone, and I enjoy taking part in the testing.

 

What I do hate, is the sour attitude taken towards the standalone.

[Hetstaine 10852]

Ideally I would have loved a completely procedurally generated map.

Imagine each server having completely different maps.

 

I don't think that really would work in a game like this :)

[Katana67 2907]

I don't think that really would work in a game like this :)

 

On the contrary, I think it will be wholly necessary as DayZ progresses for them to look into procedural generation (talking decade here, or a potential DayZ sequel).

 

Granted, with the current granular server architecture, having a different procedural world for each one would probably be unfeasible. But, if the server architecture was reformed to be more in line with traditional "MMO" server structures, then it would be appropriate.

 

DayZ is in the uncomfortable position of occupying a middle ground between a traditional FPS server/world structure (i.e. ARMA, Battlefield, CoD, etc.) and an MMO-style persistent server/world structure (i.e. WoW, SWTOR, SWG, etc.)

 

But, in being a "middle ground," It really doesn't, and can't, accommodate the full benefits of either approach. DayZ has never really been able to reap the benefits of a truly "persistent" and massive world.

 

Eventually, I'd like to see us (akin to most MMOs, although they do have "shards" [which, despite Rocket's best efforts to describe, are not the same as "hives" when there are also granular "servers" acting as sub-worlds beneath the hives]) move to a one-server/one-world concept. Where everyone (the entire playerbase of DayZ, or at least a large chunk) is playing in the same world.

 

To do that, I think procedural generation will be demanded to accommodate that many players in one environment. Otherwise, any notion of DayZ as an "MMO" won't really be accurate. Or, somewhat less far seeing, the map of DayZ will have to be expanded exponentially as to accommodate thousands of players.

 

We're also getting to the point now, where procedural generation is approaching the fidelity of "hand-crafted" worlds. I love Chernarus, it is perhaps the most convincing video game landscape I've ever come across. But it does have its limits, which I think will start to show once they toy around with filling in the blanks of DayZ.

Edited June 3, 2014 by Katana67

[gearjammer 97]

I was starting to enjoy the mod before this latest 1.8.1 version. I had a decent group of friends playing and one by one the chorus of "f*ck this" grew louder and louder. I've spent the last two hours playing by myself so I just started the process of rolling back to an earlier version. Seems like it's going to be a hassle too.