-DMG-Jonesy 226 Posted May 17, 2014 Hold on a minute there, this does and has happened to me before, the OP is not being paranoid as i have seen it in action. You are right in saying that you don't do it and it is probably rare but to say nobody is doing it is a step too far, i have seen it done myself and been the victim of it. As i said to the OP choose your servers more wisely, if he was on your server for example he would not have any problems but your post is just a load of rubbish, sort it out. Also you can check someones pulse, find their name and kick them so again you need to get your facts straight before commenting, do you even own a server because it does not sound like it.You're offering anecdotal evidence at best. You have zero idea what happened to you, just the belief that it did. It could have been any number of other issues, but you're choosing to believe it was the coordinated action of a clan, or corrupt admin.Does that mean it didn't happen? No. Anything is possible. But knowing the limitations of the admin powers, it's highly unlikely. Even still, if it did happen, it STILL doesn't lend much credence to the OP thinking an admin with mystical powers was able to locate him, kick him, and loot him within thirty seconds. And what exactly would be the point of checking the pulse on a downed guy to kick him later? How does that pertain to this discussion? You've picked the most asinine way to determine someones identity and declared this proof of concept. So what? I know a dead guys name now. I can kick him. But I still can't identify another moving player as him unless he's the only other person on the server. As for my ownership of a server, I certainly do- but I'm under no obligation to provide proof of it to some tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xalienax 621 Posted May 17, 2014 You're offering anecdotal evidence at best. You have zero idea what happened to you, just the belief that it did. It could have been any number of other issues, but you're choosing to believe it was the coordinated action of a clan, or corrupt admin.Does that mean it didn't happen? No. Anything is possible. But knowing the limitations of the admin powers, it's highly unlikely. Even still, if it did happen, it STILL doesn't lend much credence to the OP thinking an admin with mystical powers was able to locate him, kick him, and loot him within thirty seconds. And what exactly would be the point of checking the pulse on a downed guy to kick him later? How does that pertain to this discussion? You've picked the most asinine way to determine someones identity and declared this proof of concept. So what? I know a dead guys name now. I can kick him. But I still can't identify another moving player as him unless he's the only other person on the server. As for my ownership of a server, I certainly do- but I'm under no obligation to provide proof of it to some tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist. +1 mate. I dont envy admins at all. I've been lead admin for several large clans over the years and no matter WHAT its always your fault. you cant win. Someone dies to a glitch, its your fault! restore my gear!okay, maybe something really messed up happened so you go thru the database find his dead char and coppy the gear over. imediately your accused of abusive admin.someone accuses you of doing something, so you give them all the proof and documentation on the admin tools your using. instead of reading it, they go rage on the forums or reddit. after accusing you yet again. There are certainly abusive admins out there. There are certainly bad clans that rely on server ownership for unfair advantage. they are a minority- and by they way all you tinfoil hat guys are the reason so many games are going to a locked down hosting policy in which admins hands are tied. so dont wate my time with your "proof" when a hacker kills you. dont cry when all your favorite servers and comunities die and thiers nothing but a handfull of servers run by the devs left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naraga 45 Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) I kick people all the time, but only to make room for my friends- which is my right as the guy paying the bills.Yeah, no Reporting your server. Edited May 17, 2014 by naraga Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted May 17, 2014 So, I can run my own server, wait for people to join, then just kick, kill and loot them? sweet! It's your credit card, you do on your server what you want. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-DMG-Jonesy 226 Posted May 17, 2014 Yeah, no Reporting your server.Go right ahead.It's been up since launch with "PVE Only" in the title. If that hasn't gotten it brought down, I sincerely doubt kicking to make space for friends/members will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fuke (DayZ) 22 Posted May 17, 2014 I know that, already. :P BTW there cannot be a manual kick command that kicks a player and skips the animation by just changing data in the engine to do that, because the engine is not the one that does that. :| No, I don't think you know what you're talking about, because this is common sense. Bohemia wrote the features (kicking and logout animation) and they can change how they work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anothercynicalbrit 166 Posted May 17, 2014 +1 mate. I dont envy admins at all. I've been lead admin for several large clans over the years and no matter WHAT its always your fault. you cant win. Someone dies to a glitch, its your fault! restore my gear!okay, maybe something really messed up happened so you go thru the database find his dead char and coppy the gear over. imediately your accused of abusive admin.someone accuses you of doing something, so you give them all the proof and documentation on the admin tools your using. instead of reading it, they go rage on the forums or reddit. after accusing you yet again. There are certainly abusive admins out there. There are certainly bad clans that rely on server ownership for unfair advantage. they are a minority- and by they way all you tinfoil hat guys are the reason so many games are going to a locked down hosting policy in which admins hands are tied. so dont wate my time with your "proof" when a hacker kills you. dont cry when all your favorite servers and comunities die and thiers nothing but a handfull of servers run by the devs left.Sounds like your the only one crying. This guy is a joker, rambling on about something completely irrelevant to the dayz standalone, i think you are on the wrong forum mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xalienax 621 Posted May 17, 2014 Sounds like your the only one crying. This guy is a joker, rambling on about something completely irrelevant to the dayz standalone, i think you are on the wrong forum mate.my point was i agree with the guy i quoted. yes there are bad admins, but thier also the first scape goat everyone points to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anothercynicalbrit 166 Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) You're offering anecdotal evidence at best. You have zero idea what happened to you, just the belief that it did. It could have been any number of other issues, but you're choosing to believe it was the coordinated action of a clan, or corrupt admin.Does that mean it didn't happen? No. Anything is possible. But knowing the limitations of the admin powers, it's highly unlikely. Even still, if it did happen, it STILL doesn't lend much credence to the OP thinking an admin with mystical powers was able to locate him, kick him, and loot him within thirty seconds. And what exactly would be the point of checking the pulse on a downed guy to kick him later? How does that pertain to this discussion? You've picked the most asinine way to determine someones identity and declared this proof of concept. So what? I know a dead guys name now. I can kick him. But I still can't identify another moving player as him unless he's the only other person on the server. As for my ownership of a server, I certainly do- but I'm under no obligation to provide proof of it to some tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist. Ok i have zero idea what happened to me. hgg clan server, 2 of them on and three of us, we use the clan tag urs, we approach the east jail and kill both players and then hold the building down. after about ten minutes we see the same two players running across the south treeline up to the perimeter fence, because they are new spawns we don't go out to shoot, only to hold the door. Once they get to the side of the door one by one we are all kicked and those two stay in the game, load up characters and one is gone. I know exactly what happened to me it is you who has no clue what happened and your just making rash assumptions pretending you know what happened when you have no clue, tin foil hat, what in the actual fuck are you rambling on about. Also i read somewhere in your pile of shit something about what would be the point in checking someones pulse, i never said there was a point to it, in fact it would be rather pointless but you specifically said and i quote 'We don't know WHO you are even if we're standing right next to you. So it's impossible to kick a specific person and KNOW for certain it's the person in front of you unless that was the ONLY other person on the server. What a load of rubbish that turned out to be just like the rest of your post, i have just proven you wrong, if your standing right next to someone you can check their pulse, kick them and profit if that's what you wanted to do. I am not saying it would be worth it and i said it would be pointless but not impossible like your lie ridden post suggests it to be. Stop lying and spreading false information around the forums. To everyone else This can and has happened, as i said pick your servers wisely if you wish to avoid such situations. Edited May 17, 2014 by anothercynicalbrit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Etherious 907 Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) No, I don't think you know what you're talking about, because this is common sense. Bohemia wrote the features (kicking and logout animation) and they can change how they work.*Sigh* I don't think you're listening too well. I did not say that Bohemia cannot do anything to change it, I said that changing how the kicking and logout triggers work is not from engine changes. Those are server and mission scripts, so if you wanted to get rid of the animations and how kicking works then modify the scripts. Edited May 17, 2014 by DJ SGTHornet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-DMG-Jonesy 226 Posted May 17, 2014 Ok i have zero idea what happened to me. hgg clan server, 2 of them on and three of us, we use the clan tag urs, we approach the east jail and kill both players and then hold the building down. after about ten minutes we see the same two players running across the south treeline up to the perimeter fence, because they are new spawns we don't go out to shoot, only to hold the door. Once they get to the side of the door one by one we are all kicked and those two stay in the game, load up characters and one is gone. I know exactly what happened to me it is you who has no clue what happened and your just making rash assumptions pretending you know what happened when you have no clue, tin foil hat, what in the actual fuck are you rambling on about. Also i read somewhere in your pile of shit something about what would be the point in checking someones pulse, i never said there was a point to it, in fact it would be rather pointless but you specifically said and i quote 'We don't know WHO you are even if we're standing right next to you. So it's impossible to kick a specific person and KNOW for certain it's the person in front of you unless that was the ONLY other person on the server. What a load of rubbish that turned out to be just like the rest of your post, i have just proven you wrong, if your standing right next to someone you can check their pulse, kick them and profit if that's what you wanted to do. I am not saying it would be worth it and i said it would be pointless but not impossible like your lie ridden post suggests it to be. Stop lying and spreading false information around the forums. To everyone else This can and has happened, as i said pick your servers wisely if you wish to avoid such situations.K, you win. Zero proof other than your infallible belief that it happened > Logic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikom7 19 Posted May 17, 2014 They should remove he 30 secs or 1 minute that the character stays on the server if lost connection or kicked (and should be task-manager proof) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Target-UK 7 Posted May 17, 2014 Yeah, no Reporting your server. Hope your trolling, server kicking for friends and members happens on most games. VIP slots is something the admin's use to attract donator's to help cover costs. As for kicking to kill just blacklist the server and move on. Run without clan tags as well if your on a server and not sure how the admins do things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lipemr 160 Posted May 17, 2014 best combat logging mechanic ever, lel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas 5195 Posted May 17, 2014 If you don't make the effort to report the abuse, you shouldn't complain about it. A GSP should easily be able to go through the server logs, locate the admin commands and determine if they indeed did abuse their powers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites