degude 133 Posted May 13, 2014 Hi, The idea is to use items from nature to edit the look of a player. The purpose would be to be able to hide better in high grass or trees and to look more badass. For example there could be certain plants, bushes, etc which could be harvested. Each plant gives you a different type of leaf, branch, etc. with different colours, sizes and looks. The harvested "camo stuff" could be sticked on your body, which then could fall off if you start sprinting or it could be duct-taped to the equipment, clothing, etc. and then stick there even while sprinting. This would add another crafting mechanism to the duct-tape (I think there isn't one yet). This could somehow look like this: 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Burd 107 Posted May 13, 2014 It'll probably happen. Just you wait. I like the idea, so you may have my beans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emigrates 261 Posted May 13, 2014 Ghillie suits, yes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dchil 829 Posted May 13, 2014 The problem with this is it doesn't work that well even in real life. After a while the plants start to die and turn different colours and so on. Not a very good idea for when you are trying to stay hidden. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emigrates 261 Posted May 13, 2014 The problem with this is it doesn't work that well even in real life. After a while the plants start to die and turn different colours and so on. Not a very good idea for when you are trying to stay hidden.Helmet scrim my friend! Can be made out of literally anything of that camo. Cut up some MTP or.. TTsKo pants and use it as some scrim. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EduardoMaia 72 Posted May 13, 2014 Make dayz more militar and less real civil survivor... <_< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emigrates 261 Posted May 13, 2014 Make dayz more militar and less real civil survivor... <_<Doesn't take a military mind to think "I should probably help myself blend in with my environments and not stick out like rudolph's nose". Or does it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dchil 829 Posted May 13, 2014 Helmet scrim my friend! Can be made out of literally anything of that camo. Cut up some MTP or.. TTsKo pants and use it as some scrim.It's still not plants like the OP wants but this is a better idea. Also you need a lot of plants to get decent camo. When it dies you have to dump it. What's a bigger sign that someone may be in an area. Maybe seeing a bush move out of the corner of your eye? or big mounds of dead foliage next to areas nearly stripped bare? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quantum2k6 348 Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Doesn't take a military mind to think "I should probably help myself blend in with my environments and not stick out like rudolph's nose". Or does it?sure but imagin what will happen... EVERYONE and with everyone i mean really EVERY one play as a "sniper" running or better just camp as a bush. look whats happend with games like bf4... ohh sry "sniper"field 4 and the latest call of "sniper"... everyone wants just milgear ingame... and what we have then... just an Arma 3 Clone. Edited May 13, 2014 by quantum2k6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emigrates 261 Posted May 13, 2014 sure but imagin what will happen... EVERYONE and with everyone i mean really EVERY one play as a "sniper" running or better just camp as a bush. look whats happend with games like bf4... ohh sry "sniper"field 4 and the latest call of "sniper"... everyone wants just milgear ingame... and what we have then... just an Arma 3 Clone. Don't know about you, but the servers I play on BF4 limit snipers. Here, it's so difficult to obtain LRS or a Mosin there just wouldn't be anything like something you spawn, die and respawn with. They're two completely different games. There will always be people who prefer to use an AR anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilgrim* 3514 Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Helmet scrim my friend! Can be made out of literally anything of that camo. Cut up some MTP or.. TTsKo pants and use it as some scrim. Yep - scrim OR a bit of camo net to go over helmet, or hang in front of your face like veil. The helmet scrim breaks the outline a bit, but also the face is the main thing that shows up at the moment if you are wearing drab clothes. I wear (crap) shades just to cut down the outline and color of the face, because there is nothing else in game. So GOOD idea and beanz. I've also suggested a sniper/hunter mask a couple of times. They are common and commercially available even on e-bay.In RL you would find grease sticks in barracks, or you rub charcoal on your cheekbones. Not complicated. Well - the face shows up and the damn backpack shows up too - why cant we spray it green or black a little over the bright color flashes ? - this would be the first thing I'd do with a hiker backpack, get rid of the flashes or paint them drab. (Also - I'm not a sniper, I just live in a bush sometimes) xx pilgrim Edited May 13, 2014 by pilgrim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quantum2k6 348 Posted May 13, 2014 Don't know about you, but the servers I play on BF4 limit snipers. thats the point... they are limited.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
degude 133 Posted May 14, 2014 The problem with this is it doesn't work that well even in real life. After a while the plants start to die and turn different colours and so on. Not a very good idea for when you are trying to stay hidden.Well that happens after days, usually you die faster than surviving a long time. But since all usable objects are implemented object oriented, this could be realized easily, the condition of the plants could change from pristine to badly damaged over time. EVERYONE and with everyone i mean really EVERY one play as a "sniper" running or better just camp as a bush.I don't think so. It gives you an advantage when camping, but that's the purpose. I mean you won't play dayZ just to lay on the ground for hours just to wait for a player to pass by, since this is a pretty large map, you actually need to wait very long. Near airfields, where it's usually more croweded, people are acutally alreday camping and hiding in pine trees, so that wouldn't change the situation a lot. And if you go into cities, the camo with the plants will rather give you away than support you camping, so I dont't think this will make everyone a camper, I think this adds more realism to the game, because this is what people probably would do in real life to be less visible to others they can't trust. There isn't just the camper aspect, this can simply be used by players that just spawned to increase their chances of not being seen by better players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nexventor 429 Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) I haven't been sniped once. Every time I have died it has been close quarters. If you are getting sniped a lot I suggest you look at yourself and not the snipers. It is no easy task to hit a moving target at 800 metres. Personally I find sniping boring but that is because of my play style. I have a lot of respect for someone who can snipe well, fortunately I have not come across one yet. Though I do make it hard as bloody possible for them. EDIT: Oh and on topic the more camouflage the better, especially because the grass rendering is a let down. Edited May 14, 2014 by NexVentor 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qww 287 Posted May 14, 2014 The problem with this is it doesn't work that well even in real life. After a while the plants start to die and turn different colours and so on. Not a very good idea for when you are trying to stay hidden.it has always been a standard method of camoflage, in jungle warfare, it breaks up a silhouette. on a skyline, changes the shape of an object.also, do you think that discoloured and misshapen plants are too rare to replace?even the boonie hat in game description explains thats what its function is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quantum2k6 348 Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) letz play arma 3?! Don't know about you, but the servers I play on BF4 limit snipers. Here, it's so difficult to obtain LRS or a Mosin there just wouldn't be anything like something you spawn, die and respawn with. They're two completely different games. There will always be people who prefer to use an AR anyway. why are u playing on sniper limited servers in bf4 ? you know the answer... EVERYONE will camp arround if he get one of this "supercoolawesome" selfmade ghillie suits... EVERYONE... it was the same in every other multiplayer game - add a lrs and ghillies and the camperparty get started - inklusiv youtube vids about how cool they are to play as a bush and kill ppl over 9000 meters.... sry i dont want to be negativ... but why we need another arma 3? its ok for me if dean adds things like such suits - if he make it (sry) fucking rare AND build up a stamina system which gives u an handicap for using such an item... Edited May 14, 2014 by quantum2k6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emigrates 261 Posted May 14, 2014 letz play arma 3?! why are u playing on sniper limited servers in bf4 ? you know the answer... EVERYONE will camp arround if he get one of this "supercoolawesome" selfmade ghillie suits... EVERYONE... it was the same in every other multiplayer game - add a lrs and ghillies and the camperparty get started - inklusiv youtube vids about how cool they are to play as a bush and kill ppl over 9000 meters.... sry i dont want to be negativ... but why we need another arma 3? its ok for me if dean adds things like such suits - if he make it (sry) fucking rare AND build up a stamina system which gives u an handicap for using such an item...Let's just try and keep the thread on track without exaggerating a little. 9000 meter shot? What are you playing at? You sound like a typical whining Battlefield 4 bitch. Try grabbing an M4, getting indoors and complete the objective. Use cover from areas which could possibly inhabited by scouts and snipers. Stay within treelines and check the treelines for any movement. A ghillie suit doesn't make someone invisible, it just helps. You achieve the same effect with some TTsKo camo, take your bag off and getting close to a tree with some cover. The problem is also, if a sniper misses his first shot - his location is revealed. You have an M4 with up to 60 rounds, you can suppress that area like no tomorrow, flank him and take him out with ease. Not to mention how you expect a sniper to storm a building, spraying everywhere. Each rifle has it's own use and ability, learn to use your own weapons ability. While playing DayZ, I tend to carry a Mosin with a LRS & a PU Scope, most of the time I carry an M4 on my back so I can suppress anyone or even come with my team mates into a building and clear it. If you want a handicap for someone using a higher powered rifle than you, you're making yourself out to be a bad player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quantum2k6 348 Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) thx for explaining me how to play... i must really missed that in the last 20 years i play multiplayergames now... dude... add them.. it ok for me i can handle it. i just try to say that we dont need another arma 3 with zeds or snipersimulator 2016... with zeds ;) hanicap... ok letz call it "balancing"... thats the key... ok use this great camo for your head but then u should have a smaller field of view... i think u never wear such a camo in real... u have small hanycaps with it... Edited May 14, 2014 by quantum2k6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emigrates 261 Posted May 14, 2014 thx for explaining me how to play... i must really missed that in the last 20 years i play multiplayergames now...Evidently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quantum2k6 348 Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) Evidently.thats all? dude... lol lol and after my posting this post pops up in the radio chatter: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/195828-486m-shot-with-a-broken-pu-scope-and-a-predictable-nightat-the-ne-airfield/ exactlly 90% of ppl play like THAT!... so lame... Edited May 14, 2014 by quantum2k6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Element47 2481 Posted May 14, 2014 no idea what you guys are about. we have long had ghillies in the mod and they werent overused. and in Battlefield, i never have issues with snipers, they are easily flanked and either killed in close combat, or their position transmitted for artillery/mortar/air support. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emigrates 261 Posted May 14, 2014 no idea what you guys are about. we have long had ghillies in the mod and they werent overused. and in Battlefield, i never have issues with snipers, they are easily flanked and either killed in close combat, or their position transmitted for artillery/mortar/air support.Quantum2k6 doesn't agree. He feels snipers with ghillies would be just too overpowered. thats all? dude... lol lol and after my posting this post pops up in the radio chatter: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/195828-486m-shot-with-a-broken-pu-scope-and-a-predictable-nightat-the-ne-airfield/ exactlly 90% of ppl play like THAT!... so lame...Pretty much, no matter how much people try to explain to you, you still can't grasp the concept of covert. For a start, the person he shoot was in plane view. You can do that with an M4 with an ACOG. Hell, you could have rushed him from behind and got him with a fire axe. The fact that this guy was standing in the window for the world to see is just idiocy. I'm speechless that he was running around the front of hangars like that. This game is based on a milsim. You need to be tactical, if you want out in the front of things, stand in windows like you can't be shot.. you're going to get shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quantum2k6 348 Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) yeah sitting 2 hours in a bush in the middle of nothing camping for a lonesoul.. awesome... mindblowing... i cant imaging how much skill is needet... B) right its based on a milsim and thats the problem. too much arma players want just a cooler interface and managment system for theyr stuff.. *DEAN common where are the tanks and battlehelicopters? goddamn give us nuclear submarines! stop working on lumbering or hunting... we dont need it... ADD MORE MILITARY CONTENT N WARSTUFF!* right?! Edited May 14, 2014 by quantum2k6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emigrates 261 Posted May 14, 2014 yeah sitting 2 hours in a bush in the middle of nothing camping for a lonesoul.. awesome... mindblowing... i cant imaging how much skill is needet... B) right its based on a milsim and thats the problem. too much arma players want just a cooler interface and managment system for theyr stuff.. *DEAN common where are the tanks and battlehelicopters? goddamn give us nuclear submarines! stop working on lumbering or hunting... we dont need it... ADD MORE MILITARY CONTENT N WARSTUFF!* right?! If you're looking something else, you're playing the wrong game. I'm not asking for Tanks, or Battlehelicopters (whatever they are) and Nuclear Submarines. We're asking for some camouflage. Massive difference my friend, it would appear once again you've gone back to exaggerating. If you can't set yourself the task of providing a good argument, don't bother. I've already got my mind set that you're lying about your age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
degude 133 Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) lol and after my posting this post pops up in the radio chatter: http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/195828-486m-shot-with-a-broken-pu-scope-and-a-predictable-nightat-the-ne-airfield/ exactlly 90% of ppl play like THAT!... so lame... Well I think those videos you mentioned there, actually show that the sniper situation is quite ok. The sniper nearly got killed twice and was just lucky that his team covered him good enough, he easily could have died in those situations.I already mentioned that near airfields nobody should expect anything else than that, otherwise an airfield would just be a super good loot place with no dangers. The open terrain on an airfield makes that location so dangerous but on the other hand the items that can be found there are really nice, so it's kind of a good trade of. You won't see those sniper situation elsewhere on the map, because the other place, where enough people are running around, are cities, but sniping there is pointless. So it's just the danger of the airfields, and when looting an airfield snipers will be there regardless of which equipment you give players to snipe, it's just the terrain that makes it so attractive. Edited May 14, 2014 by degude 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites