eskamick 20 Posted April 23, 2014 I hope that if you try to fire this thing without a stock you can't hit crap....because you couldn't hit crap in real life. Stockless smg's and shotguns are hollywood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MetapoliC 263 Posted April 23, 2014 Prefer MP5 over Uzi Good old CS 1.5 / 1.6 times 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidsnake 275 Posted April 23, 2014 Hoping for different stock and grip attachments. Suppressor, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted April 23, 2014 I hope that if you try to fire this thing without a stock you can't hit crap....because you couldn't hit crap in real life. Stockless smg's and shotguns are hollywood.Not necessarily. Generally you'll perform more effectively with a stock on your weapon because it helps you control recoil but stockless SMGs and shotguns do exist, and are employed more often than you'd think. Also, sawed-off shotguns and other platforms like the Ithaca 37 can be stockless and they are used all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gluke 6 Posted April 23, 2014 I'm just glad it's being held properly, in lots of other games it's held like a pistol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hiberNative 13 Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) To be honest, I would've preferred they'd've gone with a full-length MP5 rather than an MP5K. i agree.i'd like a really retro, metallic-looking mp5 like back in the day. would fit the setting better. Edited April 23, 2014 by hiberNative 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buffaloe 87 Posted April 23, 2014 I agree on that. I prefer guns without plastic :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hombrecz 832 Posted April 23, 2014 First thing I think about when I don't see a stock is. **Mila picture** That's not the worst first thing you can think about! :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted April 23, 2014 AFAIK, there was a supp. in the exp.-gamefiles.so a supp. is pretty sure then^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco86 156 Posted April 23, 2014 Smgs and compact rifles better fit in your bag so long as no mags are currently in the gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hannibaldaplaya 1095 Posted April 23, 2014 ... Still no sign of the Makarov. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted April 23, 2014 i agree.i'd like a really retro, metallic-looking mp5 like back in the day. would fit the setting better. I'm confused, the MP5 pictured above features polymer furniture. Much more than the MP5K. Not sure how a "metal" MP5 would somehow fit the setting more. And it's not like the MP5K is somehow more modern than a vanilla MP5, one came out in 1966 and the other came out in 1976. They're both pretty old. If I had my way, I'd put this in... or at least make it an option via looted parts. But I suspect the he-man-modern-weapon-hater's club would have a shit fit. Nothing against vanilla MP5s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted April 23, 2014 I'm just glad it's being held properly, in lots of other games it's held like a pistol. Those are placeholder animations from arma 3. Who knows how its going to be held or if it has a stock or not. hopefully it spawns with a stock otherwise its pretty corny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadAsh (DayZ) 1513 Posted April 23, 2014 To be honest, I would've preferred they'd've gone with a full-length MP5 rather than an MP5K. I would too. I'm a bit disappointed they chose the eye-sore that is the MP5K. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) I prefer Bullpups and short barreled rifles to either LOL.Small, maneuverable, and much more devastating. I would love this to but i guess they don't want a bullpup..... why? i have no idea as of yet. But there willing ot make silly AKs, MP5Ks and now apparently hand cannon pistols with scopes lol. Edited April 23, 2014 by Deathlove Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted April 23, 2014 I prefer Bullpups and short barreled rifles to either LOL.Small, maneuverable, and much more devastating. they have shitty triggers though. I mean like super shitty not sure why but all bullpups have horrible triggers something with their design I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) they have shitty triggers though. I mean like super shitty not sure why but all bullpups have horrible triggers something with their design I guess. Not all bullpups. I've fired the civilian Tavor here in the US, the trigger is pretty dern snappy. Never held an AUG, but they're known to have crappy triggers (although I think the issue has been remedied in the newer Australian F88s). Can't say about the L85. It's harder to make a decent trigger for a bullpup, but it can be done. Plus, it's not like they can/should really render "Your finger pushes in a bit more than usual on the trigger" in-game. I would love this to but i guess they don't want a bullpup..... why? i have no idea as of yet. But there willing ot make silly AKs, MP5Ks and now apparently hand cannon pistols with scopes lol. Have they said they don't want a bullpup? I'm sure they'll get around to one eventually. Edited April 23, 2014 by Katana67 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Vepr would be nice (the picture I posted earlier is a vepr) it's Polish so theoretically it could have made it's way to Chernarus at some point.Or the L85 since there is already UK vests. Or the AUG, as Austria is pretty dern close to Czech and Eastern Europe. Or the Tavor, now manufactured in-house in the Ukraine. Or the F2000, standard issue in Slovenia. Plenty of options for bullpups (plenty more in non assault rifle form too). Pretty sure Vepr is out of Ukraine as well, could be wrong. But I agree, I'd definitely like to see a Warsaw Pact bullpup first. Perhaps a Groza? I'm not a huge fan of the Vepr's look, although it's pretty hard to make a bullpup AK look good. And, I suspect Warsaw Pact bullpups are rarer than most Western so-called "tacticool" weapons, even in "their region". Edited April 23, 2014 by Katana67 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hiberNative 13 Posted April 23, 2014 I'm confused, the MP5 pictured above features polymer furniture. Much more than the MP5K. Not sure how a "metal" MP5 would somehow fit the setting more. And it's not like the MP5K is somehow more modern than a vanilla MP5, one came out in 1966 and the other came out in 1976. They're both pretty old. i wasn't very clear; i'd like the top of the reciever and barrel to have dents and be a bit worn, like it's been shaking around after being shipped around in unorganized surplus crates before someone pulled one in panic and fled. also, that design is, to me, a lot more mainstream and classic, as opposed to the specialised K version that doesn't feel as common. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted April 23, 2014 i wasn't very clear; i'd like the top of the reciever and barrel to have dents and be a bit worn, like it's been shaking around after being shipped around in unorganized surplus crates before someone pulled one in panic and fled. also, that design is, to me, a lot more mainstream and classic, as opposed to the specialised K version that doesn't feel as common. I agree on that one, I think all of the weapons need to look used (not ruined, as many apocalyptic depictions seem to depict). Although, the MP5K is pretty common in the grand scheme of things. I get what you mean by it "doesn't feel as common," most shortened version of weapons aren't as common as their larger cousins. However, the MP5K has always been associated (for me) with cheesy 80s/90s action movies (think Steven Seagal). But, that doesn't cause me to think it wouldn't be good for DayZ. I would certainly just prefer a full-length MP5, if only for ease of mounting attachments. The MP5K is fairly limited in the available attachment area by comparison to the full-length MP5s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted April 23, 2014 -snip- Assuming that they end up making the flashlight available for the MP5, this is how I'd like to see it rendered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted April 23, 2014 Not all bullpups. I've fired the civilian Tavor here in the US, the trigger is pretty dern snappy. Never held an AUG, but they're known to have crappy triggers (although I think the issue has been remedied in the newer Australian F88s). Can't say about the L85. It's harder to make a decent trigger for a bullpup, but it can be done. Plus, it's not like they can/should really render "Your finger pushes in a bit more than usual on the trigger" in-game. Have they said they don't want a bullpup? I'm sure they'll get around to one eventually.I think the guy that does the gun models does want one but im not sure whats holding that up per say. Maybe they are trying to determine a model that would best suit the area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) I think the guy that does the gun models does want one but im not sure whats holding that up per say. Maybe they are trying to determine a model that would best suit the area. I'd assume animating it would be a bigger impediment than just picking a model. Probably requires a different reload and/or manual of arms animation entirely. Edited April 23, 2014 by Katana67 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dontstealmycheese 118 Posted April 23, 2014 I hope the firing mode switch actually moves when you toggle it.. that would be fucking sweet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites