What would you have done?

[bodybagger2430 59]

So as you can see from my sig, I am a wandering medic. my buddy and I were heading to balota and elektro to pick up more medical supplies when we duck into a barn. He heard gunshots in the distance, I didn't. we ducked into a barn to look for supplies/eat/drink and we hear heavy breathing next to us from sprinting, we duck behind the crates both covering a seperate door, knowing we were at balota on a FULL server.

 

  I get my sawed off out terrified as we hear people surrounding us. No voices or warnings, I aim at the door, a guy in solid black military gear steps in with a rifle pointed at me, I fire, he jumps back out, not bleeding nothing, a guy shouts "lets be peaceful" I shout "I am a wandering medic and this is my escort, we won't shoot if you don't enter with weapons drawn" I haven't reloaded another guy pops in, chest shots me you are unconscious, "let's be peaceful about this!" from the other guy. My buddy starts emptying his SKS into the other guys chest, meanwhile another guy is shouting about being peaceful, and I'm shouting about how his buddies continued sniping me and he is nothing more than a raiding, lying piece of well you know.

 

A few seconds later "you are dead"

 

So I ask what was the right choice here, I didn't declare myself until after I shot, no but they never did either, given the gear, the entering with weapons drawn, surrounding the barn with most likely 3 people, I assumed they were raiders/bandits and emptied both barrels in the first guy I saw, what should I have done differently, if anything?

 

At this rate, after having been shot so many times my buddy is ready to give up on dayZ and just go CoD and shoot anyone he sees including fresh spawns, I don't really want to be part of the problem, but have to agree it is very disheartening.

[hotcakes 348]

I'd git gud and win a firefight, incapacitate the enemies and fix them up after I disarm them.

That's implying I can't kill, of course. Personally, I think having a shotgun in any instance is bloody stupid because it either OHKOs or annoyingly blows up everyone's gear. Git a better gun for maiming.

Edited April 15, 2014 by hotcakes

[bodybagger2430 59]

I carry a .357 and a mosin for recon. What would you suggest instead?

[Zalvager 51]

I carry a .357 and a mosin for recon. What would you suggest instead?

Close combat: 

 

M4 with Red dot sight, or ACOG if you can find one. FNX with a couple of loaded mags. 

 

Semi-close combat: 

 

SKS with PU Scope. Magnum with a couple of snaploaders.

 

Long range combat: 

 

Mosin with LR scope and optional sidearm. Preferably an FNX since it's quiet and fast.

[hiniberus 122]

Well, the issue is that as I keep reading a fair bit is that the moment you say 'friendly' is when a lot of people are going to kill you for just saying that word. So really, all I could suggest is:

A) Don't bother with the shotgun until it gets some major changes to 'actually' be something more than a peppermill that does more than make someone sneeze when fired in their direction.

 

B ) Go for an SKS with a PU scope, then get an M4 only when you have good MP parts for it + ACOG/bipod, the mosin is good don't get me wrong but you don't seem like the type of guy for long range engagements. Personally, I have more SKS kills than either Mosin or M4 really.

 

C) A blaze is also a semi-viable option, since it only has two shots you have to make them count but are more likely to KO someone rather than kill them, which leads to the sporter 22 being an option but...you'd need to land a few shots. On the flip side, the recoil is so low that you can use it to snip 3 shots pretty fast depending on your trigger finger speed. The issue is finding the damn gun to start with and the ungodly spawnrates of the mags.

Edited April 15, 2014 by ManBearus

[MetapoliC 263]

I've learned not to be friendly much because it will end up with your death. You could do one thing, shoot the guys first, seriously.

[bodybagger2430 59]

I've learned not to be friendly much because it will end up with your death. You could do one thing, shoot the guys first, seriously.

I did, with a sawed off shotgun not realizing that it was a piece of garbage comparable to a mosquito bite (I expect this to be fixed in beta or I will be really angry). I think I might swap with my buddy and let him take the Mosin and me take the SKS, I am one of two things a long range sniper (I was originally going to be a sniping bandit hunter) or a close quarters combatant, it is one of the two, nothing else. I am comfortable at both ranges what with playing scout on team fortress 2 and snipers before I played it in games like Battlefield 2.

[newguyzombie 122]

I carry a .357 and a mosin for recon. What would you suggest instead?

in this situation the m4/sks would be the best choise. the sks is also in close combat not that bad. its like oneshot in chest -> unconsious.

with the right attachments you can also use these weapons on midrange, mp-attachments and pu-scope/acog/red-dot/ironsight switching.

 

i never take the shotgun. i saw my brother shooting someone from 2 meters in the chest. nothing happened to him.

once i got a shot from about 2 meters was just bleeding. nothing else happened. this is not very effective.

 

one tipp, if you are camping in a barn/building. after you got seen, switch position immedantly, otherwise you ll get in disadvantage and die, like you did :) AND dont even trust freshspawns! always try to control the situation

Edited April 15, 2014 by newguyzombie

[bodybagger2430 59]

one tipp, if you are camping in a barn/building. after you got seen, switch position immedantly, otherwise you ll get in disadvantage and die, like you did :) AND dont even trust freshspawns! always try to control the situation

Correct, if I had gone above on the catwalk I would have had a nice view a chest or headshot since the guy was wearing a boonie hat. The big question is was it misguided heroes, or an ambush?

[BiGoDeViN (DayZ) 423]

Sawed off is easily the worst weapon. It hardly ever kills.

 

What would I have done? Not used the Sawed off for one and two, I would have ran in a group of 3. You should probably get another escort. And since you're the medic, run with an SKS or an M4. Have a different guy use the Mosin.

 

And the "Let's be peaceful" line is always used by Bandits who want a jump on people.

[MetapoliC 263]

Never used a sawed off one but can say that if it's not sawed off, it is one of the best guns :D My buddies were testing it on 100-200-300 meters range. Even on 300m distance the shotgun was incredibly precise with it's lethal power. You should take an M4 in towns + ACOG + Bipod. I can call this ridiculous because with ACOG and Bipod you do headshots even at 600m distance (tested). If you had the M4 I think you would come out victorious in that situation

[newguyzombie 122]

Correct, if I had gone above on the catwalk I would have had a nice view a chest or headshot since the guy was wearing a boonie hat. The big question is was it misguided heroes, or an ambush?

it was a trap :) acting friendly and shooting you in your back.

[irl-calibre 744]

What we've got here is failure to communicate

[Jex 1104]

The only thing I would have said to do different (and this is in hindsight of course) is to have run up the steps, one on each side as soon as you heard the voices and then covered from there behind the hay bales or boxes. They then have to come up the stairs and ur close enough those 2 barrels will scrape their face off (and you can easily cover each other too).

 

After I was in position, I would then move onto plan B. Find the most aggravating and highest pitched bag pipe music I could find on YT and play it through direct voice and sit there for an hour with cheese in my ears.

 

Basically as soon as you're cornered and if you can get into a good position it's all a waiting game then.

[DedicateDdos 50]

Honestly what's this about the shotgun, just yesterday I blasted someone to smithereens with a single shot from a sawn off, they're still effective you just need to get close and personal.

edit: I feel it's more likely it'll cause fractures and/or knock someone out then outright kill them or cause bleeding, though I can't say for sure.

 

Back ontopic though, I feel camping and waiting isn't always the best course of action, people kind-off expect this and will circle around. Sometimes grabbing the initiative is better, at least it worked for me so far. My HC char is still alive after multiple encounters now.

 

I understand you try to be friendly but sometimes you'll just have to apologize and go pull a trigger not everyone is speaking the truth not everyone is a friendly, not everyone wants or needs help.

Had they really been friendlies they would've backed off.

 

Also I'd add to never invite someone into your building with something like "don't enter with weapons drawn" it takes a fraction of a second to see whether or not they have their weapon when they're entering and that's something these bandits don't need to consider, they were out for blood, you weren't so don't handicap yourself like that, just tell 'em to leave.

 

As a last piece of advice one of them was talking to you so you'd be distracted and they could pin your location, so stop talking and at least try to fight, as a medic it's not your duty to save everyone.

 

In fact the first thing that's most important as a medic, firefighter, cop, lifeguard or any other person that comes into a dangerous situation trying to save others is this: "your own safety above and beyond all takes priority" in DayZ this may mean shooting others.

Edited April 15, 2014 by DedicateDdos

[razgriz93@gmail.com 228]

Sawed off is easily the worst weapon. It hardly ever kills.

Not when really face to face. Saved my loaded butt a bunch of times looting buildings. A double blast and here's the guy dead on the floor.

[bodybagger2430 59]

Thanks for all the advice, right now in hindsight I believe my buddy did hear gunshots, these fellows finishing off someone, they were raiders, not even bandits, just KoS raiders. The choices I should have made were to head upstairs, pull out my magnum and just blow a hole in the guys face instead of using the sawn off set to fire both barrels at once. and I should have reloaded, I completely forget this game requires you to manually reload, even with snap loaders, so I didn't reload, which would have at least scared off the second guy even if it didn't hurt him.

 

In real life even a single pellet from a shotgun would cause major damage, and I was banking on it being more realistic and being able to drop the guy by doing the killing floor thing and emptying both barrels in his chest. and finally, stick to the magnum/mosin or .45 SKS setup, the shotgun is effective when you put it in someones mouth yes, but the problem is that you won't get that close unless in a building, and that is more inventory space I could use for med supplies.

[Ubermaster 39]

magnum beats it all on CQ :D

[liquidsnake 275]

Should've said you're a medic before he entered. Nevertheless, you weren't wrong for shooting someone who KNEW you were inside and decided to go in guns drawn anyway. Definitely something fishy about that. I think you would've ended up shooting him eitherway.

[qww 287]

you obviously want to not shoot unless you have to, you dont want to be a kos player, thats cool,

 

in the situation you described, someone walked into your space with weapon aimed at you, and they knew you were there, you did not try to  kos them, you just tried to defend yourself.

 

shooting was the correct thing to do, surely. there was no time for anything else, once he was in the barn aimed at you.

[Daemonkid 493]

Shotguns hilarious actually. It's effective at about 15-20 meters. 

Garbage at 5 meters. If it didn't kill you at that range, you'd be on your ass.

 

Anyways still run with the shotgun as a sniper secondary. It's a decent backup weapon when ambushing people. Oh, i'm putting my hands up bam whip out the shotty!

[Pinkie D Pie 0]

I was his escort, still newish to the game, and that was my first real encounter with others it was very very terrifying. I'm not sure if it could be replicated the adreneline that was pumping both our bodies.

 

For what seemed like 15 minutes we were standing still staring at the doors waiting, waiting, waiting, then everything went down in a matter of seconds the feet under that door knowing somthing was very very wrong.

 

We all die sooner or later in DayZ it's a matter of where and when.

Edited April 16, 2014 by Pinkie D Pie