srgntpepper 85 Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) The guns in this game are foreign to me, not foreign like I've never heard of them, but foreign in feel and characteristics. I know there are going to be posts of people who are like, "the best way to figure out a weapon is to keep playing." The only problem with that is a lot of the time your character dies before you get to use your weapon, so you don't get a whole lot of practice with that gun. I'm sure people will say, "well get better at the game and you'll get to use your gun," but half the time people die from bugs, or a super strong zombie that hits you in the head once and you die.... Basically, I am suggesting a training, or practice option.I am stealing this idea from Planetside 2. They have a VR(Virtual Reality) Training option that teleports you to an area with all the weapons and attachments as well as targets in various situations to practice with and get the feel for the weapons at various ranges. It could be an area in the bug field that maybe wont ever get developed and could be dedicated to this training.Or it could possibly be a separate server the player would automatically connect to after selecting this feature. The whole server would just be dedicated to this feature, friendly fire would be turned off, there could be several ranges with crates of guns, ammo, and attachments Now I know there are gonna be pissed off people that are going to argue that this is a survival simulator etc etc and no one should be very familiar with any of the weapons yada yada.Well, at some point, people are going to be very familiar and good with the guns in the game, because no matter how much you want this to be a simulator where the player isn't an expert at anything combat related, the person playing the game is going to keep learning and they're going to keep learning by shooting people. Basically people who are more prone to banditry are going to be better shots in general because they use their gun whenever they can. The easiest way to learn without a training option is to be in a group with people, in elektro......which is a giant clusterfuck. That or you could be the douche that snipes freshpawns from the mountain by the main road on the way to elektro......which just sucks for all those freshies. ;) Edited April 8, 2014 by srgnt.pepper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) What happens when you were in that situation and didn't "know" the weapon well enough? You go to a deserted place in the woods and shoot some rounds into targets at different ranges, you don't need an extra training ground to train shooting imo. Take it as an immersion measurement as if it was you training in that environment and not a figure you are controlling. If you are too afraid to fire a weapon in game even when zeds can't spawn near you then don't pick one up. Edited April 8, 2014 by Enforcer 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AP_Norris 1018 Posted April 8, 2014 What happens when you were in that situation and didn't "know" the weapon well enough? You go to a deserted place in the woods and shoot some rounds into targets at different ranges, you don't need an extra training ground to train shooting imo. Take it as an immersion measurement as if it was you training in that environment and not a figure you are controlling. If you are too afraid to fire a weapon in game even when zeds can't spawn near you then don't pick one up.Agreed, picking up a gun IRL doesn't instantly make you familiar with its bullet trajectory.Go and practise in the woods or against some zombies, ammo isn't too hard to find atm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
srgntpepper 85 Posted April 8, 2014 What happens when you were in that situation and didn't "know" the weapon well enough? You go to a deserted place in the woods and shoot some rounds into targets at different ranges, you don't need an extra training ground to train shooting imo. Take it as an immersion measurement as if it was you training in that environment and not a figure you are controlling. If you are too afraid to fire a weapon in game even when zeds can't spawn near you then don't pick one up.ya, the only problem with that is the amount of time it takes to get all that stuff and then travel to a deserted location. I've been doing that and half the time I cant even do it because I either die from some bug or I get killed by a zombie. It would just be better to have an environment where you can try all the guns on targets, instead of spend half the day getting all your shit only to lose it if you die. What your talking about might be more viable closer to the release of the game, but not in its current state Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) ya, the only problem with that is the amount of time it takes to get all that stuff and then travel to a deserted location. I've been doing that and half the time I cant even do it because I either die from some bug or I get killed by a zombie. It would just be better to have an environment where you can try all the guns on targets, instead of spend half the day getting all your shit only to lose it if you die. What your talking about might be more viable closer to the release of the game, but not in its current state It's something you can do right now and all the time instead of waiting for them to finish the game without bugs and then maybe add a training ground to shoot weapons. Regardless of the state nobody will stop you from going out into the wilderness and train on your rifle except zeds and KoSers. I'm sure it will be much harder in the future if they make it harder to find weapons and ammo and add roaming zeds in the wilderness and they might still tweak the guns a bit so all the effort you put into mastering a weapon setup was for nothing. The suggestion is very viable imo. Edited April 8, 2014 by Enforcer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl 986 Posted April 8, 2014 I sometimes go to a low pop server and get to the top of a building using zombies for target practice. Or stay at street level next to a building I have already opened the door off and start shooting zombies until I feel I can't handle them no more and I flee up the stairs. You can also do this in open fields since in the end you can always outrun the zombies. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
srgntpepper 85 Posted April 8, 2014 It's something you can do right now and all the time instead of waiting for them to finish the game without bugs and then maybe add a training ground to shoot weapons. Regardless of the state nobody will stop you from going out into the wilderness and train on your rifle except zeds and KoSers. I'm sure it will be much harder in the future if they make it harder to find weapons and ammo and add roaming zeds in the wilderness and they might still tweak the guns a bit so all the effort you put into mastering a weapon setup was for nothing. The suggestion is very viable imo.Its not the idea of it I'm against, it's the hassle and possibility of dying before being able to go out. It would be easier and faster to have the option. If u'd feel its an immersion breaker, then you can get a gun and ammo and go into the woods. I don't think theres anything wrong with being in an environment out of the game where you can practice handling weapons. They'll definitely be tweaking weapons, in fact they already have been, it doesn't make the practice all for nothing. They're not gonna completely gut the system they have in place for weapon damage and feel, they're just going to tweak it, its something many games do even after they release their game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites