Am I a bandit or KOSer?

[OldWolf (DayZ) 9]

So, i've been trying to understand what my playstyle is. I know in this community, you are either a koser or a bandit, but I wonder if there is some sort of middle ground.

 

My friends and I normally play on highly populated areas and kill those we come across that have weapons. If you are bambi, we disregard you and let you do your own thing, if you have a backpack, then we run up on you check your backpack for anything that might be useful to us, take what we need, and let you on your way.

 

I've noticed 80% of the time i've died, it was because I was shot at, we return fire and either we die or survive. Because of this, we now adopted the playstyle of killing anyone that has a weapon (rifle) on them. We've tried countless times to communicate with dudes with weapons, and it just ends up that we get shot at or killed. Just last night I was in the school/office (the building across from the hospital in elektro). I saw a guy on the 3rd floor with a shotgun looking the opposite way..I decided to try to communicate with him. Before I even had a chance to talk, he turns around and shoots at me with a shotgun. luckiliy I was prepared and kill him with my SKS

 

So, with this type of playstle, what do you consider it? I would like to think i'm more of a realistic bandit. I don't kill unarmed players, I take loot from those that have backpacks, and i kill those with weapons. Communicating in this game with other players with weapons is nearly impossible at this point.

Edited March 20, 2014 by OldWolf

[Chris529 380]

Sounds reasonable enough, more towards the KoS style though if you could let armed people go but you shoot them anyway. But at least you aren't killing unarmed people, and I hope if someone with a gun tried to communicate and be peaceful you would do the same.

 

There's more than just KoS and banditry btw, imo you're an average bandit.

Edited March 20, 2014 by Chris529

[irl-calibre 744]

I think you'll find in this community that there are bandits / survivors / heroes - you sound like a survivor verging on being a bandit - in cities all bets are off then it's just chaos, do you bring good to the chaos & endure what the hero has to or side with the bandits, it's your story really up to you..

[Uutgrunnen 96]

You're just trying to survive in a cruel world.

 

Forget all the names you hear on the forum like heros, bandits, KOSer.

 

There are only those who live and those who are dead.

 

No rules, just survival of the fittest.

 

Everything is allowed...

[Princess Dookie 35]

Hmm. You def sound like a mix of several. Maybe you are bipolar? :)

Edited March 20, 2014 by Princess Dookie

[Jex 1104]

Well this is the issue in that when u try and be friendly, you get a face full of lead. I lost count the amount of times I got killed for just saying "Hello mate how you doing?" indicating i'm friendly. Or standing watching some guys loot a store for a minute before I say "Hello" and they shit their pants and gun me down so yeah, I'm not surprised you shoot anyone with a gun.

[Target Practice (DayZ) 1335]

To me, that just sounds like the aggressive end of the 'bandit' scale.

 

A KoSer is someone who doesn't even stop to look at what someone's carrying, what they have and whether it'll be of any use to them - the only thing they're interested in is killing for the sake of killing. If you don't shoot everyone you see, then you're not a KoSer by definition. :)

[tarascon 50]

So, i've been trying to understand what my playstyle is. I know in this community, you are either a koser or a bandit, but I wonder if there is some sort of middle ground.

 

 

 A good, honest post. I like that you're open about what you do and offer no justifications or excuses. You do what you feel you need to do... I also like that you leave fresh spawns alone.

 You're wrong about one thing though--DayZ is not an either/or proposition and there is indeed a middle ground. Two actually; you can also play as a hero or a survivor. Heroes save people and focus on eliminating KOSers & Bandits... a black & white world view. The other role is that of survivor and this is a gray area--as a survivor may avoid all contact with others and focus on looting/exploring or a survivor can adopt a policy of robbing players if the need arises (killing them is an option but not a necessity) and KOSing as a situational response to perceived threats (but not for sport).

 There are clans in-game which operate on any combination of the above. I belong to a clan which considers itself a survivor group. We tend to never rob people because--as a clan--we have the people to loot and gear up in numbers and do not need to kill randomly to do so. We try to communicate with others first but if threatened we do recognize the need to KOS in certain situations but never do so for the sheer "fun" of doing that. We leave bambis alone and try to help them if they need our help. We are not Heroes per se but we're also not Bandits. Eventually, when the ability to build gets implemented, we plan to create a base from which to operate. That is the long-term middle-way of DayZ.

[komadose 190]

Because of this, we now adopted the playstyle of killing anyone that has a weapon (rifle) on them. We've tried countless times to communicate with dudes with weapons, and it just ends up that we get shot at or killed. 

you basicly have to play like that if you want to stay alive. then people call you a KoSer. go figure.

 

"that guy shot me right in the kisser with no reason yaddayaddayadda!! didn't give me any chances to shoot him first! shit KoSer game!"

 

also there's a fact that not many people use mic, so it's better to let your Mosin do the talking instead of risking it by starting to type.

Edited March 20, 2014 by komadose

[Jex 1104]

There are a few rules where it's KOS and that's

 

1) if you run around a corner practically bumping into another player and they have a weapon out.

 

2) at any airfield or military base

 

At any other time we'll mostly ignore other players we see moving around. We will engage anyone we see with a sniper rifle on a hill and shooting at people. Sometimes we'll try and make people surrender but then will shoot if they act aggressively. We won't murder people just for the sake of it.

[execpro22 128]

So, i've been trying to understand what my playstyle is. I know in this community, you are either a koser or a bandit, but I wonder if there is some sort of middle ground.

 

 

Your a Bandit.

 

KOS is  a made up distinction perpetuated by friendly players who create KOS whine threads cuz they havent figured out how to stay "out of sight".

[real meatshield 424]

Play how you want to play, and fuck anyone elses criticism. You arent obligated to play any other way than that which YOU enjoy. Its one of the benefits of sandbox.

 

In this community, you're either an alpha playtester, or a self-entitled child complaining daily about random shit on the forums. Playstyle has nothing to do with it.

[kimosabbi 48]

You can forget meeting anyone friendly in Electro 99% of the time, that whole area is KoS. They may be friendly but that is only until they have a weapon or meet up with their buddy.

 

ANY airfield is KoS, no matter what you are there for one reason and one reason only - Get Geared. If there is a chance that you start at east jail at NEAF and meet someone who came from West Jail, you may have something that they need and will take if given the chance.

 

I started off being an Electro(ll) and shot everything and anything and soon learned the much more immersive and skill required Airfields. If I meet you there, you are guaranteed to be engaged unless I can work around you without you having the chance to see me. Everyone is always a triggerfinger there, I'd rather not take the chance.

 

In the rare chance that I have gear and I am on the coast, if you are a bambi I will ignore/help you e.g. if you are new to game give pointers etc. (unless you are hostile, then you get put down).

 

If you have a melee weapon, I'll be cautious and keep you at distance but try to help you.

 

If you are armed, you most likely will meet your maker.

 

Despite KoS when the wind is right, I do feel terrible for some of my kills. I feel actual guilt, I think it might be because I'm actually stealing peoples time.

 

#DayzProblems

[chekovp 89]

I kill or get killed by most of the armed players I run into, but every so often I also have some great conversations with armed players while I am also armed. One thing that certainly keeps me from shooting someone is if they get the jump on me and don't shoot. This obviously  sounds like the right and easy thing to do, but a friend that I play with wants and tries to kill almost everyone he sees and always have to talk him down from wanting to kill people that I don't want to.

I also try to help people when I can and don't kill people unless they are asking for it. I've mended plenty of broken bones and fed the hungry. Like Real Meatshield said, play how you want to play and don't let anyone tell you any different.

[zeroy 240]

You are a SURVIVOR. not a KoS obviously as that is: player contact >> shoot.

[over9000nukez 199]

So, i've been trying to understand what my playstyle is. I know in this community, you are either a koser or a bandit, but I wonder if there is some sort of middle ground.

 

Kos - Actual Hero

 

Bandits are in between that

 

Your a KoSer, you kill on sight, and not for self defense but for a reason that has yet been proven or not,

 

"This guy with the gun WILL shoot me"

 

I dont blame you thou, its the easiest way to play the game stealing from people and killing anyone who has a gun and hasn't seen you in that moment.

 

I personally play like this, avoid players with guns, if they have a gun and its OUT i wont approach, if they have gun on their back i will approach, talk, converse, trade, get out the most harmless way as possible for both of us, walking different directions. Fresh spawns I give food to, semi-geared people I give food to, ive someone has a melee weapon out i stay 20m away from roughly, if they charge i either run, and eventually juke them, and shoot them later for it, or shoot them if they are a clear shot. Self Defense is fine in my book, as long as the person is the one who started it first,(like drawing there gun after you tell them not to, or something like that)

Edited March 20, 2014 by over9000nukez

[Comanche6 9]

Why the irresistible need to classify everything and then justify it? DayZ breaks the mould in games (since D&D in 1979) because there are no classes/alignment and yet we (collectively, the community) try to classify it anyway. You're just a player and therefore a survivor. There are no other classifications. Good/bad/gray and the titles which know-it-alls in the community apply to play styles are irrelevant, as are the implicit judgements and behaviour which come with those titles. Just do whatever you want and don't worry about it. Just play.     

 

 A good, honest post. I like that you're open about what you do and offer no justifications or excuses. You do what you feel you need to do... I also like that you leave fresh spawns alone.

 You're wrong about one thing though--DayZ is not an either/or proposition and there is indeed a middle ground. Two actually; you can also play as a hero or a survivor. Heroes save people and focus on eliminating KOSers & Bandits... a black & white world view. The other role is that of survivor and this is a gray area--as a survivor may avoid all contact with others and focus on looting/exploring or a survivor can adopt a policy of robbing players if the need arises (killing them is an option but not a necessity) and KOSing as a situational response to perceived threats (but not for sport).

 There are clans in-game which operate on any combination of the above. I belong to a clan which considers itself a survivor group. We tend to never rob people because--as a clan--we have the people to loot and gear up in numbers and do not need to kill randomly to do so. We try to communicate with others first but if threatened we do recognize the need to KOS in certain situations but never do so for the sheer "fun" of doing that. We leave bambis alone and try to help them if they need our help. We are not Heroes per se but we're also not Bandits. Eventually, when the ability to build gets implemented, we plan to create a base from which to operate. That is the long-term middle-way of DayZ.

Edited March 20, 2014 by Comanche6

[OldWolf (DayZ) 9]

I'm surprised at the amount of positive feedback! Totally was expecting alot of negative stuff haha..safe travels in chernarus all!

[pacific_coast 632]

you are mostly kos

not really bandit.

 

bandits are now a squad of people who rob and only shoot to protect themselves, or deny resistance

to be a bandit and not a kos crew you need a mentality and a code

 

killing is just killing

[tarascon 50]

Why the irresistible need to classify everything and then justify it? DayZ breaks the mould in games (since D&D in 1979) because there are no classes/alignment and yet we (collectively, the community) try to classify it anyway. You're just a player and therefore a survivor. There are no other classifications. Good/bad/gray and the titles which know-it-alls in the community apply to play styles are irrelevant, as are the implicit judgements and behaviour which come with those titles. Just do whatever you want and don't worry about it. Just play.     

 

 

Not a know-it-all... OP asked a question, I responded.

[Grimey Rick 3417]

I think you'll find in this community that there are bandits / survivors / people who try to be heroes but fail miserably - you sound like a survivor verging on being a bandit - in cities all bets are off then it's just chaos, do you bring good to the chaos & endure what the hero has to or side with the bandits, it's your story really up to you..

 

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