Do you believe people who shoot on sight are terrible at DayZ?

[Demonio (DayZ) 19]

In the end every shooter is a survival game, more or less, you die and you lose your character/round/game, you name it. Live by any means and you win.

 

You are confused about the meaning of SURVIVAL game ...

[godr4@yahoo.com 3]

I think you're 100% right.

 

Example I spawned wandered into a barn and found a shovel (which is useless on experimental zombies) Turn around and a fresh spawn is ready to punch me out.

 

The question is why? We're both fresh spawns. The guy can see i'm not geared.

 

I can only surmise he's such a crappy player at dayz that they only want to steal other players gear or shoot people because they don't know how to play the game or are so terrible that they keep dying and eventually give up to the point where they'll kill anyone on sight.

 

I think the game is too difficult for them. They don't understand/know how to play it. Get tired of dying and failing at it so when they do get a weapon they just sit and shoot people because its easier than roaming around chernarus doing stuff

 

You have such a odd view of KoS'ers.  You assume that just because someone wants to kill you then they MUST be bad at the game?  That's madness.  To me a resh spawn is simply a bandit who hasn't found a weapon yet.  In the long long time i've been playing this and the mod, I've had a LOT of encounters with people, either on their own or in groups.  Most of the time the person/group have simply waited til our backs were turned before opening fire, or they were just waiting to find weapons.

 

I'm a KoS'er because I want to live.  If i see a new spawn 300m+ and he's running the opposite way, then no problem.  If I see a guy with a gun running even remotely in my direction then he's going down.  End. Of. Story.

[wild_man 4442]

guys who saying KOS player is bad player missing point  

 

is not guys who killing more who are bad player :huh:

 

is the guys who dying more are bad player ;)

[alsmir 255]

Man, I feel sorry for all those bambis complaining about KoS - how come most of them are playing solo?

 

I have so many great stories about absolutely epic team firefights that were started by someone spotting another player and taking a shot - so called KoSing.

You are missing out so much great experience if you never been into a fight with multiple squads. It's especially fun when not everyone is geared to max and you realize one guy with einfield had almost wiped out your entire team after you got too cocky.

 

You should really try shooting people more often and see what happens.

 

Btw, to anyone telling me to go back to (insert fps game here): nope, I've never had such situation in any other game when I got into firefight, steal UAZ and drove away under heavy fire (killed 2 guys) simply because I decided to visit some village to look for water pump - was thirsty.

[daisho 74]

Man, I feel sorry for all those bambis complaining about KoS - how come most of them are playing solo?

 

 

Well, I don't really have any friends on steam who play the game.

When I started the game I went on populated servers, tried to interact with people, maybe team up and have a good time...and got either shot right away or got handcuffed and mocked, got called names while getting tortured for being a fresh spawn with just jeans and t-shirt.

Now I don't approach people anymore if I can avoid it as I'm sick of this kind of crap. I go on low pop servers and mind my own business.

How to make friends to team up with when everyone you meet is shooting you right away and if using the mic and communicating only to insult you? That's why I run alone.

 

So far in like 50-60 hours of gameplay I've met 2 people who didn't kill me right away, one was a fresh spawn asking for help to stop his bleeding and the other one was a fully geared dude I ran into in Elektro as fresh spawn who gave me a helmet and a pistol.

 

I'm not crying or complaining nor saying KoS would be wrong in any way or that players who KoS would be bad at the game... I'm just saying there should be options other than KoS and that teamplay should get encouraged, especially given the fact most people just server hop to gear up and then go on a rampage and I don't think that's what DayZ is meant to be.

[alsmir 255]

When I started playing DayZ I didn't know anyone who would play with me, but instead asking randoms in Elektro I used forums to find a group of people who played in similar way as I did and who were looking for some extra guy. 

I've been playing with them for 2+ years now, whether it is DayZ or some other games.

 

You've found the forums, now learn how to use them.

[daisho 74]

When I started playing DayZ I didn't know anyone who would play with me, but instead asking randoms in Elektro I used forums to find a group of people who played in similar way as I did and who were looking for some extra guy. 

I've been playing with them for 2+ years now, whether it is DayZ or some other games.

 

You've found the forums, now learn how to use them.

 

No matter what game I've played I always wanted to get to know people and their attitude before joining some kind of group I might not feel comfortable with for whatever reason and I've always found groups/ clans to join that way without any problems.

Not to speak that I just dont want to "apply" to any kind of recruitment thread, where applications seem to get accepted no matter what and stuff seems to turn into some kind of mass recruitement, I personally would prefer quality over quantity. I'm no kind of clan-hopper so I prefer to chose wisely before dealing with a  lot of bullshit.

Yes, that might be why I have problems finding people to game with in DayZ, while I never had any problems finding dedicated, mature and fun groups to play with in any other game.

Yes, that's my own personal problem, I'm a social player, I want to interact with people before I team up with them rather than just "joining a clan" to "be in a clan".

Edited March 7, 2014 by daisho

[alsmir 255]

No matter what game I've played I always wanted to get to know people and their attitude before joining some kind of group I might not feel comfortable with for whatever reason and I've always found groups/ clans to join that way without any problems.

Not to speak that I just dont want to "apply" to any kind of recruitment thread, where applications seem to get accepted no matter what and stuff seems to turn into some kind of mass recruitement, I personally would prefer quality over quantity. I'm no kind of clan-hopper so I prefer to chose wisely before dealing with a  lot of bullshit.

Yes, that might be why I have problems finding people to game with in DayZ, while I never had any problems finding dedicated, mature and fun groups to play with in any other game.

Yes, that's my own personal problem, I'm a social player, I want to interact with people before I team up with them rather than just "joining a clan" to "be in a clan".

 

I guess I got lucky finding decent grup easily.

 

I did try playing with some other groups when my friends were playing less and I had similar experience as you - finding bunch of immature people or 10+ groups of semi-randoms that just make it really difficult to communicate when they all start talking at TS.

[daisho 74]

I guess I got lucky finding decent grup easily.

 

I did try playing with some other groups when my friends were playing less and I had similar experience as you - finding bunch of immature people or 10+ groups of semi-randoms that just make it really difficult to communicate when they all start talking at TS.

 

You can get lucky when picking a group and finding decent people you actually have fun with but I still prefer to actually get to know people before joining any clan or group.

At the moment I'm just playing on different server trying to find one that has an actual community forming around it, what would be a good way to actually get in touch with maybe like-minded players.

Time will tell and I'm pretty sure pretty good communities will form up.

 

It's all good and I'm quite relaxed, enjoying the game now that I am able to defend myself if needed and don't keep getting gangraped by fully geared up squads while running around with some some beans, one or two Pipsis and fancy sunglasses at max.

Wasn't complaining in any way, was just trying to to tell my point of view and explain why I run alone as it might be the same for other Bambis/ lonewolfing players who haven't found a group yet.

Edited March 7, 2014 by daisho

[soulsil11 7]

Ima stretch out on a limb and say kos players are good when coming to surviving. They kill for their gear. But shooting unarmed players is just asshatery. But if ur unarmed and trying to punch be prepared to to have a face full of 5.56 NATO rounds to your face without mercy.

[HazZarD87 166]

The butthurt of people bad at PVP is at 12 pages now. Lovely :lol:

[papazombie 25]

I dont believe kos players are terrible, in fact they add an extra to the game.

The problem comes when ALL players kos all the time. This is terrible because we lost an important part of the game.

[Vertoxis 15]

You guys all want to know the REAL reason people shoot on sight in the CURRENT state of the game

Tell me, PLEASE enlighten me as to WHAT you will GAIN from interaction...please i'd love to know what im missing out on..

When i have beans, i have food, i have water, i have ammo, guns, i have EVERYTHING i could need (IN THIS CURRENT STATE OF DAYZ:SA) At that point what do you do? Go around asking freshies if they need help... because well, most average players can gear up in about 20mins to an hour, why does he need my help? 

Nothing in this game takes seriously longer then an hour to obtain, if it does... well you are doing it wrong (And no im not saying server hop... head north.. a lot of people ignore Stary,Novy and other locations...) So again, maybe if i was trying to build a car and get it running... i might say Hey man i got a TON of water, do you have any spare car parts on you? Or something siimilar (Heli's, buildings ETC)

RIGHT NOW in the CURRENT VERSION (and trust me, im not saying i like it... but you are all attempting to solve KoS the WRONG way.. asking a KoS'er to not KoS is like asking a dog not to bark... it wont work with asking alone) 

Give them a REASON to want to work together... WHich means.. MORE CONTENT

so get off the KoS is wrong.. KoS is right... i play how i want.. or KOS is for bad players.... ranting... and start ranting for more content

... it will fix EVERYTHING you hate about kOS

[or'dinii 28]

Man, I feel sorry for all those bambis complaining about KoS - how come most of them are playing solo?

It might have something to do with the fact that you spawn alone on the beach, your character doesn't know anyone in the area, he has no voice communication to an IRL dude 6km away in the NE direction that he can just hook up with to go look for someone to kill.

 

It all depends on your take on the game.

 

Current character has been around the outer edges of the map, zigzagged some in the central area, and been alive for a good while. He even walked close to 100% of the distance from SW corner to SE corner out in the open to see if he was assassinated. Now he's surviving on his own in the wilderness and only visits towns when he runs out of food. There is no need to encounter zombies until it's unavoidable. As he has only seen 3 or 4 other people on his travels, that were either running or sprinting in some direction before contact was even possible, he has yet to have an encounter.

 

Since his prime objective is to survive, he long since decided that venturing into cities where firefights can be heard from time to time is not a good idea, evern if he carries an M4 with quite a bit of bullets, and a Magnum.

[Stuntmonkey (DayZ) 1]

I KoS on occasion when I feel threatened. Last night I killed 1 of 3 dudes in Cherno after they surrounded my building, but naturally I was aiming down from a balcony and even though the gun was free of the balcony edge it would just shoot the wood. Tried moving around, went to crouch and pressed v. Death. lols. Had so much loot too.

 

Anyway yeah, I KOS specially if someone doesn't answer me. 

[HazZarD87 166]

Make interaction mandatory and stop KoS? Think for a second. I know what will happen for me. I allready interact all the time since I'm playing with a crew ranging anywhere from 2 guys to 5 guys at any given time. Anyone outside that group will be killed as soon as the oppurtunity presents itself.

[Stuntmonkey (DayZ) 1]

^ My point precisely. I've watched a number of groups do this in the last few months.

[hells high 676]

They kill you - you are dead, they are still alive = you have lost DayZ (as that character) and they are still not-losing.

 

Maybe they're missing out on a lot of other stuff to do (like playing an RPG and not doing the sidequests that make up the majority of the game) but that doesn't mean they're bad at it.

[Murlough 192]

First of all asking the question "should they be ashamed of themselves?" is by far the best way to make yourself look like a whiney 4 year old. Secondly, there is NO proper way to play the game. Im sorry someone shot you and your buttsore that you lost your pretty can opener but seriously? Its a SURVIVAL game. Guess what? You are probably gonna get shot and killed at some point. Otherwise there is very little point in the game. If you can't handle that fact then either stop playing or stop whining and enjoy yourself. You're like the guys on COD who bitch about getting shot.

[execpro22 128]

There are bandits that are extremely skillful as well as heros that absolutely suck.

 

 

Why do you think they decided to be heros....

[execpro22 128]

There are bandits that are extremely skillful as well as heros that absolutely suck.

 

 

Why do you think they decided to be heros....

[Walking Wounded 199]

I think you guys are missing the point here. I think this may tie in with 1 reason rocket is leaving and this will nevr be the game he wants it to be. I may be wrong of course...

 

The idea of players working together and being able to achieve more by working with a stranger is missing from the game right now. If zombies become a huge threat and certain key equipment, locations and resources can only be achieved through working with others then and only then will this game be about survival.

 

Be honest and consider your on an island a small one at that... you know humanity is allmost wiped out.. and your going to shoot anyone you see... or are you goign to try and scout them out and prhaps manouvre into a position to engage in safe communication>? essentially if you kill everyone your going to kil the species.

 

 

I just had my first non lethal encounter. I was looting a room and a guy ran in and hit me with an axe.. he was i imagine rater shocked to see me as he had an sks with ammo and would have fired that had he been meaning to kill me. i ran upstairs and we engaged in a chat. the end result was an apology from him and us both going our seperate ways...

 

If and when the game is geared to co-operation it might truly see its full potential.

[HazZarD87 166]

I think you guys are missing the point here. I think this may tie in with 1 reason rocket is leaving and this will nevr be the game he wants it to be. I may be wrong of course...

 

The idea of players working together and being able to achieve more by working with a stranger is missing from the game right now. If zombies become a huge threat and certain key equipment, locations and resources can only be achieved through working with others then and only then will this game be about survival.

 

Be honest and consider your on an island a small one at that... you know humanity is allmost wiped out.. and your going to shoot anyone you see... or are you goign to try and scout them out and prhaps manouvre into a position to engage in safe communication>? essentially if you kill everyone your going to kil the species.

 

 

I just had my first non lethal encounter. I was looting a room and a guy ran in and hit me with an axe.. he was i imagine rater shocked to see me as he had an sks with ammo and would have fired that had he been meaning to kill me. i ran upstairs and we engaged in a chat. the end result was an apology from him and us both going our seperate ways...

 

If and when the game is geared to co-operation it might truly see its full potential.

As I said before. I will then simply work with my group and kill anyone outside of it simply because we can.

[rodolfoxiii 71]

I don't think so.

[Kallish89 3]

Why do you get guns if you not gonna use them? Allways KoS if you encounter amred strangers. You got more to win shooting them down then to take the risk of being friendly.