The Anti-Game - Why DayZ will stay a crappy game

[wild_man 4442]

for me is too much fun :)

 

sneak around on busy server always in back of the mind 'is player watch me?' :o

 

sometime having funny interaction other time intense pvP is rare but rare = value

 

because best moments coming sometime nothing for days then something great is giving great value for me and I enjoy more BECAUSE IS RARE I NEVER GETTING BORING FOR THIS :thumbsup:  :D

 

I enjoy challenge of simple life survive explore hunt for player avoid detection and survive vs environment

 

is simple pure fun and is why this game is special not like other game is unique ;)

 

if you don't have fun maybe is not dayz the problem but way you seeing world is problem :huh:  

 

is glass half empty?  :P

[Window Licker 504]

@tommes: Are you drunk?  So you did understand that DayZ doesn't want to be neither a coop game nor a shooter, and you tried it and didn't like it because it "Doesn't really work" (for you). And instead of moving on to something else, you came here to....what? Cry in front of us all?

 

*lol* I read WinowLickers answer and once again we are on the same page but he is so much more polite than me, so I think to myself "If  I were into clichés I'd say he is Canadian."

Thanks man I really appreciate it, I try to take care in what I post, and a compliment from someone I respect as a member of the community has made my day.

[Ironrice 3]

I understand where you are coming from and I was wondering about what Dean hall meant about that flaw but getting geared up doesn't take that long if you know where to look. The game is sloooow but it's kinda like minecraft with guns and zombies IMO. And you can run into a whole bunch of people in a good server near the spawn points. Many dont have weapons so easier to approrach.

[IamDinner 28]

I was completely off gaming for more than a year because everything "traditional" out there just sucked imo. DayZ made me buy a new machine and enjoying something new for a while. But know the magic is lost...or it's just too much nothing inbetween the shows. In retrospect, the magic was always spoiled by a lot of cheap bullshit. DayZ always was full of flaws. It always were the few special moments making you forget about the hours of boredom.

 

Life is full of flaws...seems like a simulator that includes flaws is not that far off the mark... but seriously. it sounds like you just have reached your peak with this. Opinions are great until you start trying to convince others of them and the lack of merit in their OWN. Do you really need to argue that it lost its shine for you? I believe you even if everyone else won't. I have not reached that point but I do believe you. Then again the silent customer is the most deadly. It is the one that never says a thing and never comes again so to speak that does the most damage to a business. If that is where you are right now mentally just wanting to see this game or others hurt with you over your loss then why not take the silent route and just find someone else to give money and time to. Then they will have it and you will have won...

[ctrek 421 1]

A lot of what is wanted by players as balancing tools will be added.

I feel like 99% of people who make posts complaining about the game have never read a Dev blog.

Most of the time people are complaining and asking for thing devs have acknowledged and say they are going to add.

They will reduce weapon spawns

They will reduce military loot

They will add animals and hunting

They will add disease sickness and infections

They will add Base building

They will add vehicles

They will add more zombies

They will add more balancing to try and punish players who kill on site.

There is literally so much they are working on and going to add.

Complaints about current player interaction with the world is nonsensical. Player interaction is guaranteed to change.

People who complain about this game act like this is supposed to be Arma 3 wasteland but with zombies instead of soldiers.

Everyone go read or watch the Dev blogs. Read the twitters of dean and the devs.

And if you have done that and still are unhappy then just stop playing and keep your opinion to your self. You discourage other people from playing who potentially could love the experience they have in Dayz. Stop telling people to save their money. It says in very bold words to buy at your own risk this game is in ALPHA!

[IamDinner 28]

A lot of what is wanted by players as balancing tools will be added.

I feel like 99% of people who make posts complaining about the game have never read a Dev blog.

Most of the time people are complaining and asking for thing devs have acknowledged and say they are going to add.

They will reduce weapon spawns

They will reduce military loot

They will add animals and hunting

They will add disease sickness and infections

They will add Base building

They will add vehicles

They will add more zombies

They will add more balancing to try and punish players who kill on site.

There is literally so much they are working on and going to add.

Complaints about current player interaction with the world is nonsensical. Player interaction is guaranteed to change.

People who complain about this game act like this is supposed to be Arma 3 wasteland but with zombies instead of soldiers.

Everyone go read or watch the Dev blogs. Read the twitters of dean and the devs.

And if you have done that and still are unhappy then just stop playing and keep your opinion to your self. You discourage other people from playing who potentially could love the experience they have in Dayz. Stop telling people to save their money. It says in very bold words to buy at your own risk this game is in ALPHA!

 

For most people just getting past the self entitlement to actually remember others have opinions as well is almost an impossiblity for an average person. At least in the part of the world that I am in.

 

READING FOR THE WIN...in almost any situation in life if you did this first the pain will be far shorter and far less intense.

 

Please listen to this guy here and go read anything to help boost the understanding of that which has already been stated.

[over9000nukez 199]

Someone put this thread out of its misery.

 

too many crying children crying about game no good,

 

too many crying children crying about game is be alpha.

 

Please end this needless suffering, with a small donation of 1,500$ you can save a child from this pain and torment.

[tommes 331]

Says you. My sense of 'time/fun ratio' is obviously different but then I enjoy doing things people might find dull.

There are many people with lower expectations than mine. That's why there's still a lot of players in DayZ. It has some appeal. There are people buying games like Agriculture Simulator, Tram Simulator, Deer Hunter and whatnot...and DayZ is developing into a probably mediocre compilation of all of those, maybe with a grain of Shitting and Disease Simulator added to the mix.

If you enjoy that, be my guest. Have fun! I wont.

[tommes 331]

It's the only game where I have an adrenaline rush during a firefight and am shaky afterwards.

That's right. That kept me as long as it did. That's the appeal. But in my book it's just too much hassle to get there.

 

This game isn't for everyone. If you don't like it that's fine. Go find something else to hold your interest.

I never asked for advice. I know what to do. I'm not whining or complaining or making suggestions to make it a better game. No. I just share my opinion that DayZ just can't be fixed. It will always be a compilation of a lot of rather not exciting (boring) things to do even more spoiled by frustrated guys with guns.

As for the flawed concept that keeps coming up, you can speculate all you want but we won't know what Rocket meant. I have my ideas that the concept is flawed because the game is meant for player interaction and there is more killing of each other.

And that interaction will be very limited and most likely unfulfilling unless you have it with your buddies in Teamspeak. And that won't change unless all triggerhappy people are driven out by the ever more increasing compilaton of lameplay that is on the roadmap.

[tommes 331]

Player interaction is guaranteed to change.

On what grounds? All that stuff to add in? It won't change a bit. Strangers will still be shot. Out of fear or fun. Doesn't matter. An inbetween you will do a lot of running&looting with probably always too dumb Zeds in too low numbers to be really challenging because present technology can't handle that amount yet.

[tommes 331]

If that is where you are right now mentally just wanting to see this game or others hurt with you...

I don't care much about how succesful this game is or will be. It already made it's profit. People here most likely already bought it and are playing it. I just want to share my thoughts. As I said in reply to some other post, posting here is overall more exciting than average DayZ gameplay for me.

[LaughingJack (DayZ) 767]

There are many people with lower expectations than mine. That's why there's still a lot of players in DayZ. It has some appeal. There are people buying games like Agriculture Simulator, Tram Simulator, Deer Hunter and whatnot...and DayZ is developing into a probably mediocre compilation of all of those, maybe with a grain of Shitting and Disease Simulator added to the mix.

If you enjoy that, be my guest. Have fun! I wont.

 

Plain simple: You are a moron.

 

Not because I'm a DayZ fanboy that has hurt feelings because of your negative comments, but because of sentences like

"Well, let's say you seem to get easily excited."

"If you still get excited about DayZ you're in this early phase of a relationship, where everything is new and exciting, but I've done the mother often enough to see behind the mascara. Those scars can't be fixed. You just don't see em yet. Have fun while it lasts!"

"There are many people with lower expectations than mine."

etc.

 

Your standards are YOUR standards and they are not the standards of anybody else. Your expectatiopns are YOUR expectations, that doesn't makes them the highest expectations for all of us.

See where I am going with that?

 

O Yes

O No

O Alpha

 

Cross one.

 

 

I just share my opinion that DayZ just can't be fixed. It will always be a compilation of a lot of rather not exciting (boring) things to do even more spoiled by frustrated guys with guns.

 

Do you really need like 30 posts in an own thread to share your opinion? Did you really NEED to share that opinion? Why do you still argue? Nobody said that  DayZ is the ultimate game for everyone, but like 20 people said "if it is no fun to you, it's fine, play something else, to me it is fun at the moment" to which you reply with the same sentences over and over again.

 

I still don't get the point of the thread. "I'm not whining or complaining or making suggestions".  So you said your opinion. And repeated it over and over and over again and even resurrected this thread after it was gone to repeat it one more time.

 

I'm glad that the rest of the 1.5 millions players don't do the same here, it would be a real mess if everyone opened an own thread to write down his opinion. And believe me, your opinion is not more worth than anybody else's...or, is it? You are special. Your opinion is unique and valueable. You need to tell everyone how you feel. You need the attention.

My suggestion: Write on your facebook account. Hey, you can even play candy crush there!

 

 

Edit: There is an "Edit"-button, so you don't have to make doubleposts...

Edited March 3, 2014 by LaughingJack

[tommes 331]

...when people have NO IDEA THE FUTURE OF THE GAME. Nobody fucking knows what its going to be like. Just douche's like to power trip and assume they know whats going to happen, because you know, they are god and see into the future.

I have an idea of the future of the game and I share it hereby. You guys still are blinded by hope. You think more content will increase interaction between players. It won't. Why should it? there will be guns. The strategy of eliminating a thread before it can hit you will always be be safest one. No amount of boring things to do inbetween will change that...unless it drives away all the players who are rather not into role play.

 

Im so annoyed right now at this, pissed off at myself for "bumping" this post... However I strongly believe there has got to be a new rule disallowing "Know it all" posts. Id much rather read some shit about how someone got KoS'd and is pissed off at the game, not this shit, not this shit at all.

Then don't read it. I forced nobody.

[tommes 331]

Your standards are YOUR standards and they are not the standards of anybody else. Your expectatiopns are YOUR expectations, that doesn't makes them the highest expectations for all of us. See where I am going with that?

 

 

 

I still don't get the point of the thread. "I'm not whining or complaining or making suggestions".  So you said your opinion. And repeated it over and over and over again and even resurrected this thread after it was gone to repeat it one more time.

It's quite obvious that you don't get my point. And you're not the only one. That's why I keep posting. A few got it. You didn't.

DayZ will never be what you guys hope it to be...unless your standards are not high. That might very well be the case and you might very well be entertained by DayZ for many hours.

 

And believe me, your opinion is not more worth than anybody else's...or, is it?

You will see some day if I'm right or not.

My suggestion: Write on your facebook account. Hey, you can even play candy crush there!

Do you have even the slightest idea what specialized message boards are for? Maybe you should think about that for a while before you complain about someone opening a thread stating his opinion.

[LaughingJack (DayZ) 767]

I got your point when I read the opening post for the first time: The concept of DayZ is broken, beause you feel that the time/fun ratio is not good for you, and player interactions, which would make it interesting, are either KoS or awkward "hello", "bye" and nothing special.

 

And I think everyone else, without the tl;dr department has also gotten it.

 

But what I don't get, is why this opinion needs an own thread and countless posts that are all the same: "My opinion is superior to yours because it is."

Did you see my thread "Why DayZ is DayZ and not candy crush (my opinion about the SA)?"

No?

Well, that's because it doesn't exist. And it doesn't exist, because it is MY opinion and I don't feel like I have to stuff it down everybodys throat.

Again: It's fine that you have an opionion. It's fine with me that it's negative.

But why on earth to you feel the need that everybody has to share your opinion, that everybopdy has to feel the same way, that your

experiences will also experienced by others?

 

Maybe there are people that will feel the same way as you do now. Maybe there are people that will never feel the same way.

And you know what? That is fine. They don't have to.

 

And I got like ~100 hours in the SA (I'm not one of the real hardcore players with more than 200 hours already) and...I don't even know how many hours in the mod, far more.

So saying "You will see some day if I'm right or not." sounds a little bit...like a 5 year old complaining about this new game he has played, and you find out it's Super Mario 3...you just want to pat on his head and say "It's ok". So: "It's ok".

 

And my comment about facebook...well...since you like to stuff your opinion down the throat of other people AND you like candy crush, facebook would be IDEAL for you. Just MY opinion.

 

 

 

An opinion is like a penis, it’s okay to have one, it’s okay to be proud of it, hell, it’s even okay to play with it (in your own time). But it’s not okay to whip it out in public and try to shove it down the throats of others

[tommes 331]

But it’s not okay to whip it out in public and try to shove it down the throats of others

I forced nobody. You jumped at it. Seems like you've been attracted by my meatwhip. Sorry it hurt you. Feel free to leave.

[-MadTommy 367]

I'm pretty tired of people posting subjective opinions as if they are facts.  OP you are the worst culprit. 

[LaughingJack (DayZ) 767]

I forced nobody. You jumped at it. Seems like you've been attracted by my meatwhip. Sorry it hurt you. Feel free to leave.

 

Ooooh I hit a vulnerable point and the poor boy could not answer to anything, so he had to hang on the only thing that is left for him, no matter how small it is. (the figure of speech I used. What were you thinking?)

It's ok. You are safe. Don't cry no more, sweet princess.

[Mos1ey 6301]

Can we debate without resorting to personal insults please? That goes for everyone.

[res 373]

Well..f*ck.

 

:(

[pacific_coast 632]

op makes valid point

[tommes 331]

Ooooh I hit a vulnerable point...

There's none. Now stop embarrassing yourself by stating your opinion, that my opinion should not have been stated...in a message board explicitly made for people to state their opinions. That's the core concept of such boards and even though the majority of users are pricks, the core concept works pretty well. Maybe DayZ needs clear topics and moderators...

[over9000nukez 199]

someone kill this thread. stop talking on this thread D:, LET IT BE BURIED!

[LaughingJack (DayZ) 767]

But my opinion is only about your opinion, not about the topic where your opinion is about! So it's emberassment is your emberassement since you made this thread and stated your opinion, which is not more valueable than my opinion about your opinion! And that's not an opinion.

 

And if there would be no vulnerable point you'd answered to more than the figure of speech I used...

 

 

someone kill this thread. stop talking on this thread D:, LET IT BE BURIED!

The irony^^

Edited March 3, 2014 by LaughingJack

[Meekalew 44]

I think a lot of the problem is people see DayZ as a "game".

 

But really, DayZ isn't a game, it's what I like to call an "experience sandbox".

 

DayZ is entirely about the experiences you have within the sandbox, and the method it uses to create that sandbox (survival, zombies, etc) can illicit strong emotions from people, both good and bad.