Why is hardcore so underpopulated?

[Dagwood 680]

And so you're telling me that if you were playing battlefield and half of the servers had wall hacks enabled, you wouldn't be upset about it?

And if 90% of the player base played on walhack enabled servers, you wouldn't want to enlighten them to the error of their ways? Attempt to show them that the game can be played in a different, more frightening way?

Can you ignore the blatant trolls and shit flingers long enough to see that some of us are just trying to help you?

Help me....help you....

[GrappleX 354]

 you wouldn't want to enlighten them to the error of their ways? 

 

No, its hard to ignore shit like this. Saying that I erroneously choose to play on regular servers makes you seem like a holier than thou douche.

 

I guarantee I didn't make an error choosing to play on regular servers. I looked at the server list, saw both hardcore and regular servers, and purposely picked a regular server. All intentional.

 

Again, not everybody on regular servers uses 3pp to look around corners and KOS. Just as i'm sure not everybody who plays hardcore is a condescending dick.

 

But a few bad apples spoil the bunch, isn't that true?

[Spiderdude20 32]

I apologize if this has already been answered, since I skipped ahead and didn't bother reading the next 12 pages :P, but how do you get onto the experimental servers?

[rickyriot 1009]

Still can't understand how some of you even post from your high horses.

 

Seriously, the font must be tiny from up there.

In your analogy, lamecore players are reading 3 threads at the same time.. ;)

[Dagwood 680]

I'm not being a douche. Unless dayz is the precious vagina that must be cleansed of the filth that is the 3rd person community. If that is the case, I am the holiest of douches :)

[guppy22143 1081]

In your analogy, lamecore players are reading 3 threads at the same time.. ;)

"lamecore"? Holy fuck, this community is toxic...

Everyone. Just AGREE that we like different styles of play. It isn't "Wall hacks" it isn't a "clear advantage" and hardcore isn't any better than normal. Wherever there is a bug, a few assholes will exploit it. Simple. They do it in regular, they do it in hardcore. Get used to it, and let the devs sort it out.

[guppy22143 1081]

I'm not being a douche. Unless dayz is the precious vagina that must be cleansed of the filth that is the 3rd person community. If that is the case, I am the holiest of douches :)

And, you. YOU are an asshole. I am not filth you egocentric piece of sordid shit. I am not a cheater or a wall hacker. Get off your high horse, douchebag. It's almost like you were born with a silver spoon shoved so far up your ass you forgot that you're a normal human being.

Edited March 1, 2014 by Guppy the DayZ Medic

[Dagwood 680]

And you erroneously chose regular servers. You just don't know it yet!

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

I had mentioned this in a thread a month ago, 3pp and 1pp shouldn't even exist on the same kind of servers.  Just separate the two and we can call it a day. 

[Dagwood 680]

Woah man. I'm sorry if I insulted you. If you want to keep playing poker with a reflective sunglasses dress code, that's your own choice.

But you're not going to become a better poker player until you learn to read your opponent without seeing his whole hand...

[guppy22143 1081]

And you erroneously chose regular servers. You just don't know it yet!

Erroneously? Excuse me? Just because I don't agree and conform to your play style doesn't mean I'm wrong for choosing mine, you fucking neo-Nazi hipster.

So shut the hell up before I go all hulk-medic on your ass.

Edited March 1, 2014 by Guppy the DayZ Medic

[GrappleX 354]

Woah man. I'm sorry if I insulted you. If you want to keep playing poker with a reflective sunglasses dress code, that's your own choice.

 

 

Can you make one post without being a condescending prick? 

[omambuscus 27]

Can we not fight? How about you stay in your hardcore server and play your heart out and leave the others out. You're not gonna convince anyone to play hardcore if u keep acting like that. I myself want people to play hardcore, but I don't use condescending tones or names. I try to list the good things about hardcore such as:

1. More intense firefights

2. No more 3pp peaking

3. More friendly players

Regular also has some pros:

1. More people = more PVP = more human interaction

2. Helps new players ease into the DayZ formula

You don't need to be a dick to change a person's opinion on something. If they want to play on regular then let them play on regular.

[GrappleX 354]

Thank you for reasonably stating your point omambuscus. 

 

If only more people had had your approach 13 pages ago.

[omambuscus 27]

I'm just saying bro lead by example and people are bound to follow you

[Dagwood 680]

When you are able to organize a coherent argument against my points, I will begin to show you the respect you so dearly need. But alas, my undeniable logic goes untarnished, safely above your feeble attempts at counter arguments. And I get to keep teasing you because you can't out argue me :)

But please, keep trying. Your tears give me strength.

[omambuscus 27]

Oh good sir please tell me how you intend to get more people to play hardcore if you are deliberately insulting them?

[GrappleX 354]

. And I get to keep teasing you because you can't out argue me :)

 

 

Nobody's trying to argue anything. The only thing i'm stating is that it would be nice not to be labeled as a cheater/exploiter/peasant every time I mention I play regular. 

 

I honestly have no idea what you are trying to argue, and so long as you stay on your high horse, won't give a shit either.

Edited March 1, 2014 by GrappleX

[omambuscus 27]

Hey Grapple there's no use arguing with an idiot because they're gonna drag you down to their level and beat you with experience

[Dagwood 680]

Nobody is calling you a cheater. You just have access to game features that make "cheating" your own experience almost too tempting to resist. But like I said, it's your poker game...

[Dagwood 680]

And y'all are dismissing my opinion without even refuting a single comment in this thread! And you called me a conforming neo-nazi...

[GrappleX 354]

Fair enough. 

 

Too bad to, most of the hardcore community seems reasonable enough.

 

I suppose the loudest ones always set the tone for the rest.

 

*edit* dagwood, nobody knows or cares anymore, this thread should have died 4 pages ago. So, i will do my part in letting it go. Just do the same and let this die.

Edited March 1, 2014 by GrappleX

[Dagwood 680]

Running away from superior points... First logical move you've made all day... Too bad I can't see you over this wall of facts. A wall of facts that your lackluster opinions cannot even come close to bringing down.

At least you know when you're beat. But did you see that in first person or third..?

Cause that would be an exploit if you saw it in 3rd person :)

You were wonderful. Thank you. Have a great night!

[Sickerthansars 53]

Hiding in a pine tree sets up a situation where one person can see and the other cant. One person armed and the other not is unequal.

You are talking about situations which are equally applicable to similar 1pp ones.

If you want to say 3pp allows ambushes an advantage over runners, then yes. But ambushes are always at an advantage. All players play by the same rules.

Seeing as you cant hide entirely in a pine tree to ambush someone in 1pp, or you yourself cant see out of the tree, while your position is concealed you're still visible to the other player. In 3pp there are situations where you can not under any circumstance aside from hacking see someone using the 3pp viewpoint to see you. There's still a huge difference between being virtually invisible (1pp) and actually inivisible to other players (3pp) 

 

For the simple minded ones

1pp It may be very difficult to see you if I am not paying close attention, but fact remains If you can see me I can still see you and I may actually get the jump on you instead if you happened to not spot me first.

 

3pp it is impossible for me to see you regardless of how meticulous I may be I will never have the opportunity to spot you until you're shooting me in the back. 

 

Notice the difference? In 1pp while it is possible for one player to get an advantage tactically over the other,the opportunity to level the playing field still exists even if the chances are low they are still there. In 3pp there is no possible way whatsoever for you to do anything about it besides hit the respawn button. 

 

You're grasping at straws now, the fact remains 3pp is not equal while 1pp is.  The lengths you're going to to try and justify 3pp as being equal are getting kind of embarrassing to be honest, im starting to get the  "not sure if trolling or just"...well you know the rest about you "3pp is equal" types.

Edited March 1, 2014 by Sickerthansars

[Soupie 2]

The reason I don't like 3rd person is that it has imprinted DayZ in the public consciousness as exactly that: a 3rd person MMORPG (WoW etc). 1st person servers suffer a lot because of this.

 

I see DayZ as a shooter/survival game based on real life physics and outcomes (almost), but with the magical realism of added zombies. Each to their own I suppose.. but seeing round corners when you yourself can't be seen is frankly lame. Claiming you're going to puke is lame too.  

 

hey ho.