bergerlu 4 Posted February 28, 2014 Are people really telling me to man up in a .... video game ? This really has to be one of the nerdiest thing I've ever heard. I am talking about game mechanics that are broken or haven't been implemented yet since it's in alpha phase. Keep your role playing for in-game guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
execpro22 128 Posted February 28, 2014 Are people really telling me to man up in a .... video game ? This really has to be one of the nerdiest thing I've ever heard. I am talking about game mechanics that are broken or haven't been implemented yet since it's in alpha phase. Keep your role playing for in-game guys. Man up boy..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s32ialx 10 Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Are people really telling me to man up in a .... video game ? This really has to be one of the nerdiest thing I've ever heard. I am talking about game mechanics that are broken or haven't been implemented yet since it's in alpha phase. Keep your role playing for in-game guys. game mechanics that haven't been implemented yet since it's in alpha phase you said it yourself shut up and deal or move on you know it's alpha and things will change Soooo all i can say is shaadddaaaaap and Edited February 28, 2014 by s32ialx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nienko 41 Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) Try to kill first, before it kills you.Things to do in Dayz: 1. Kill all players2. Dont mind zombies3. Collect all the loot and hide or dump in the forest.Best game eva ! Edited February 28, 2014 by Nienko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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pillock 850 Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) In my opinion if nothing is done to control KOS in some way, the game will simply be just another shooter (on a very big map) and not the special game I was waiting for, that's all. Probably most a lot of people think this when they first start out in DayZ. "They need to change the focus of the gameplay away from PvP combat, or the KoS playstyle will become entrenched forever." I did at first, but I actually don't believe in it anymore. Or rather, I don't believe it's necessarily a bad thing, even if it does become entrenched. I like that there are areas - military bases and big cities - where armed "criminals" (for want of a better way of putting it) shoot people for fun. It creates an atmosphere which is good for the "survivor" character that I like to play. Those places are where the best loot is, so people compete for it - and some people go there just for the gunfighting, to notch up another kill. This means that if you do go there, you have to be on your guard and keep your head down if you want to get in and out out alive - you do not stay there long if you don't actively want to be involved in a gunfight. You can find plenty of good kit by wandering the depopulated towns and isolated barns in other parts of the map, relatively risk free - but if you want to go to a place where there is good gear in abundance, you have to watch your back and be prepared to fight or run for your life. I think that's a good gameplay balance. I do think KoS will become less prevalent as more survival features are added and there are other things for players to do - but I hope the tension and danger of going to the popular loot spawn areas isn't lost completely. Increased zombies might compensate a bit and change the dynamic slightly, but it's not the same. You don't want to be able to just wander freely on the whole map, picking up loot without danger, surely? That's not fun. Edited February 28, 2014 by Pillock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deebz1234 243 Posted February 28, 2014 man up son haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bergerlu 4 Posted February 28, 2014 I do think KoS will become less prevalent as more survival features are added and there are other things for players to do - but I hope the tension and danger of going to the popular loot spawn areas isn't lost completely. Increased zombies might compensate a bit and change the dynamic slightly, but it's not the same. You don't want to be able to just wander freely on the whole map, picking up loot without danger, surely? That's not fun. I know there will always be some KoS, it just needs to be an occasional thing. Right now it's all over the place, bullets flying everywhere, not just in big cities and military zones. In the current state of the game, I don't feel it's any different than a COD or Battlefield game. And what I am saying is if it stays like that when the game is officially released then I might just stick with Battlefield where the bullets physics and general gunfights are way better. DayZ needs to have it's own identity and do everything possible so that it doesn't become just another shooter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s32ialx 10 Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) I know there will always be some KoS, it just needs to be an occasional thing. Right now it's all over the place, bullets flying everywhere, not just in big cities and military zones. In the current state of the game, I don't feel it's any different than a COD or Battlefield game. And what I am saying is if it stays like that when the game is officially released then I might just stick with Battlefield where the bullets physics and general gunfights are way better. DayZ needs to have it's own identity and do everything possible so that it doesn't become just another shooter. Please how exactly is a game where you have to find guns ammo and food anything like BF and CoD? really seriously it's not at all like that yes there are lots of firefights WHAT THE HECK DO YOU EXPECT people are bored you want them to just log off and let you eat your beans in peace? you're just qq'ing over nothing why not go and say this game is like America's Army then because it's more like that than CoD or BF (where you respawn fully geared) yes you respawn fully geared in AA AFTER the round is over and a new one starts ( completely different ). this game is NOTHING like CoD omg it has guns it's just another CoD right... that's it because CoD was the FIRST game to have military guns.... I'm pretty sure AA (which is developed by the US Army) was created LONG before CoD, not to mention all the other shooters from the 90's that came out way before any of these games. Just becuase a game has guns and firefights does not make it just like another game. Edited February 28, 2014 by s32ialx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pillock 850 Posted February 28, 2014 I know there will always be some KoS, it just needs to be an occasional thing. Right now it's all over the place, bullets flying everywhere, not just in big cities and military zones. In the current state of the game, I don't feel it's any different than a COD or Battlefield game. And what I am saying is if it stays like that when the game is officially released then I might just stick with Battlefield where the bullets physics and general gunfights are way better. DayZ needs to have it's own identity and do everything possible so that it doesn't become just another shooter. Well, I don't play DayZ for the shooting. I'm fucking crap at gunfighting, in fact, and very nearly got killed last time I tried it (the only reason I didn't die was that some helpful random guy was on hand to give me morphine and covering fire). But I still get plenty of enjoyment from the game. It's the promise of things like hunting and crafting and vehicles and persistent storage and barricading and base building and such that keeps me interested. And I don't think the current shooter-only gameplay is particularly detrimental to the long-term appeal of the game, even if it remains the main focus after those extra features are added. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidmind 320 Posted February 28, 2014 At the moment, there is nothing you can really do... In a real life scenario, you'd get some supplies, wait 3 weeks and when all the trigger-happy people killed each other off, you have a chance of survival. As they constantly respawn in dayZ, they won't die out, so it is unlikely that any sane type of gameplay will come up in the future. DayZ became popular as a game for minorities, then the masses discovered it and they are just to stupid to see the game for what it was supposed to be. But you have probably figured that out, based on the comments made in this thread and it should give you an indication of what rocket meant saying "it is not the perfect multiplayer game, due to mistakes made in the beginning"... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karmaterror 982 Posted February 28, 2014 I find its about how you approach a player that decides if it goes well or not. I get most success from sneaking up on them then announcing myself while I have the drop on them. I think it builds trust if they know you have more than enough chance to kill them...but haven't yet. Then its all assessing who your dealing with. A lot of friendly's are happy to shoulder there gun and move where you tell them to. People who are less compliant get told to surrender, then cuffed. But at all times keep your gun on them, any movements that look hostile... don't hesitate.... bandit players won't. Most players only want to protect there gear, when they know that's not your agenda, you might be surprised how many are friendly. That constant threat, that at any time your screen can go black without having any idea where it came from is one of the things that makes dayz great. Its what fuels that constant paranoia and tension. The times when a kos sniper misses and you know exactly where it came from are brilliant moments. Turning the tables on your would be murderer is a real thrill. Basically treat every encounter as a hostile one, make sure you have the advantage...then try diplomacy. Any threatening behaviour at all, shoot them :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siberian (DayZ) 527 Posted February 28, 2014 At the moment, there is nothing you can really do... In a real life scenario, you'd get some supplies, wait 3 weeks and when all the trigger-happy people killed each other off, you have a chance of survival. As they constantly respawn in dayZ, they won't die out, so it is unlikely that any sane type of gameplay will come up in the future. DayZ became popular as a game for minorities, then the masses discovered it and they are just to stupid to see the game for what it was supposed to be. But you have probably figured that out, based on the comments made in this thread and it should give you an indication of what rocket meant saying "it is not the perfect multiplayer game, due to mistakes made in the beginning"... well said.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites