gaweu 42 Posted February 20, 2014 Well "paid" is a strong term. This isn't a business, nor is it a scam. I'm not powerleveling your character for an outrageous amount of time and charging by the hour. All I'm doing is providing gear to people who may or may not have the time to. Also the game may be more interesting for newbies if they can actually have access to the same items as veterans. When's the last time you dropped an M4 for a fresh spawn? All I'm trying to do is make sure this game can be enjoyed equally to all players of skill and size. I dropped sks with pu scope and ammo 2 days ago when i met some fresh spawn. But i dont remember i was asking for something for it or even offering stuff on forum :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazykage 1063 Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) To be fair, your first post is a little bit vague in regards of what's in it for you and asking someone to send you an E-mail to "talk shop" does give the impression that you're asking for something, possibly money, in return. And why E-mail, why not just use the forum PM system? You shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but when the cover strongly suggests "Want gear? Gief mounies" then a lot are going to make the assumption that you're out to make money from other players. In short, be clear in your intentions and then no-one but the hardest of cynics will question them. Be vague and everyone will raise an eyebrow.What he said, op^. If everything is honest and on the up and up, why not use the PM system here in the forums? It is private, and there is a "paper trail", which shows the mods that there is nothing against the terms and conditions happening. See, now therein lies the issue. You're assuming I want cash. The key word here is "assuming". Sure, if you take my post under the microscope, I may have left out a couple of details about the trade. Who the hell knows? What if I am trying to support this game by offering a raffle of full gear? Is it so terrible to guarantee a person full gear without anything in return? Am I a monster because you are under the assumption that I am advertising for money?You mentioned NOTHING about a "raffle" in your op. In fact, your OP IMPLIES that something will be exchanged when you say "talk shop". lastly, you still have not addressed my other point: How are you gearing up this player? Are you getting the gear yourself, then handing the gear over in game to the other player? Because in your OP, you imply the need for secrecy by use of email, suggesting that you intend to play on the other player's account, gearing their character up FOR them, which I am 99.9999999999% certain is a violation of a rule of some sort. Edited February 20, 2014 by Crazykage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mssing 34 Posted February 20, 2014 Ahaha, I'm assuming you're a professional at Counter-Strike? *Yawn* What I'm offering is not detrimental to the game, because there's no ecology or economy to the game. Maybe in the future but as of now, it's a free-for-all loot grab. Concern yourself with the masses that don't have 400 hours in DayZ, but also want to be able to do things you do with that experience. You sir, are being near-sighted, and slightly green.i think you might be trolled by a very young person or a very imature one. it is not very impressive only rediculus to be braging like that ..not even cs pros do something stupid like that ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cywehner1234 582 Posted February 20, 2014 Ok, AsOiX. You sir, are a master at surviving DayZ. You are the best scavenger and looter in this game. 20 minutes is a fantastic loot time. You have my highest regards. I'm so glad that you are so good at this game. I am overjoyed at the fact that you can acquire such pristine gear at such a short amount of time. Really?Why would I give you 5 bucks, for something that is the main fun of the game. This isn't WoW where you have to level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted February 20, 2014 Don't listen to these Dayz elitist Kalibyr. There are plenty of players who hate having to gear up and would pay someone a small "fee" to collect gear for them. Just because some people like to take the time to gear up doesn't mean everyone does. 50% of this game is gearing up. Welcome to DayZ, genius. If you don't want to "gear up", this isn't the game for you. You could get "geared up" only to die five minutes later. Then what? // grabs popcorn // Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalibyr 4 Posted February 20, 2014 Why would I give you 5 bucks, for something that is the main fun of the game. This isn't WoW where you have to level. To each their own. I am astounded by how you can speak for hundreds and thousands of people sir. You got me good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalibyr 4 Posted February 20, 2014 You mentioned NOTHING about a "raffle" in your op. In fact, your OP IMPLIES that something will be exchanged when you say "talk shop". lastly, you still have not addressed my other point: How are you gearing up this player? Are you getting the gear yourself, then handing the gear over in game to the other player? Because in your OP, you imply the need for secrecy by use of email, suggesting that you intend to play on the other player's account, gearing their character up FOR them, which I am 99.9999999999% certain is a violation of a rule of some sort. Sigh. Again with the assumptions. Assump a dump. Just because you can't wrap your head around a process of me giving someone gear without using their account is too hard for you to grasp doesn't mean you ask the same question again. But please continue to write more blatant ignorance. I'm not trying to be mean but honestly, I'm not even flexing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Target Practice (DayZ) 1335 Posted February 20, 2014 This could all be cleared up if OP was a little less cryptic and explained exactly what it is he wants in return for these 'services'. Unless I missed it, whilst OP was quick to accuse others of assuming that he would be asking for money, it doesn't look like he's outright said that he wouldn't ask for money. At the very least, he is being deliberately vague and evasive, and that's enough to make me wonder exactly how legit this is. Ball's in your court, OP - you can clear this up very easily, just by telling us what you're doing this for in public, rather than by email. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gaweu 42 Posted February 20, 2014 Its easy enough to know that no one will stop You but i just hope that all of those guys that will pay You to get geared will get shot in head like 5 mins after because they have no clue about game and they will be just pissed. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monkfish (DayZ) 339 Posted February 20, 2014 Granted, but the fact that they are so adamant that people should have to gear up the "right" way, because it's the "core" of the game, the "only thing" the game has to offer is just so ridiculous and silly. It's mentalities like those that create such a corrosive environment that leads to niche indie games to ultimately fail. GIVE PLAYERS THE RIGHT TO BE GEARED! I stand by this.I've just had a quick squint back through the topic and found two posts (of 33 at the time of writing this) relating to you spoiling the game by offering this service, so this response is meaningless given that most people responding are actually querying what it is you're hoping to gain from this 'service' (hence my post) rather than calling you out for breaking the game. So, what exactly is in it for you? You've yet to answer this directly and that only further increases the suspicion that you're in it for money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalibyr 4 Posted February 20, 2014 50% of this game is gearing up. Welcome to DayZ, genius. If you don't want to "gear up", this isn't the game for you. You could get "geared up" only to die five minutes later. Then what? // grabs popcorn // Isn't that... the "fun" of the game? Wait, should I offer a body guard entourage service as well? Genius my dear Watson. I'll now be offering protection included with my initial guarantee of full gear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highlander007 249 Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Why aren't the admins of the forum locking and deleting this thread? Edited February 20, 2014 by Highlander007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Ahaha, I'm assuming you're a professional at Counter-Strike? *Yawn* What I'm offering is not detrimental to the game, because there's no ecology or economy to the game. Maybe in the future but as of now, it's a free-for-all loot grab. Concern yourself with the masses that don't have 400 hours in DayZ, but also want to be able to do things you do with that experience. You sir, are being near-sighted, and slightly green. Not to compare e-peens, but yes, I was a professional player from 2000-2004, right around when CS:Source was released. Competed for three years in CAL-m with my final year in CAL-i with teams such as Malicious Intent (m][.), Pernicious Vengeance (pV|), Killers 4 Eternity ([-k4e-]), among others. I also attended CPL twice. <3 EDIT: Still a bad idea. Edited February 20, 2014 by Grimey Rick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalibyr 4 Posted February 20, 2014 For those who are wondering what I get in return: - I may want to make a friend.- I may want to start a clan.- I may just be so gosh darn friendly.- I want this game to succeed and maybe I can promote it by helping out newbies.- Maybe I want to make a multi-billion dollar corporation on gearing people in Day Z Standalone.- I want to marry their daughters or sisters.- I want nude pics.- I would like to hear them sing a lullaby while I sleep. Clear enough? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Target Practice (DayZ) 1335 Posted February 20, 2014 So, you can unequivocally say that under no circumstances would you ask anyone who wanted your help for anything material (be it money, games or other non DayZ-related stuff) in return for your 'services'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cywehner1234 582 Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) To each their own. I am astounded by how you can speak for hundreds and thousands of people sir. You got me good.If this game didn't have gearing up, what makes it any different from Arma. Literally, you want to play arma, not DayZ. EDIT: Inb4 lock Edited February 20, 2014 by AsOiX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monkfish (DayZ) 339 Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) For those who are wondering what I get in return: - I may want to make a friend.- I may want to start a clan.- I may just be so gosh darn friendly.- I want this game to succeed and maybe I can promote it by helping out newbies.- Maybe I want to make a multi-billion dollar corporation on gearing people in Day Z Standalone.- I want to marry their daughters or sisters.- I want nude pics.- I would like to hear them sing a lullaby while I sleep. Clear enough? Yep. Was that so hard? Couldn't you have done that in the first post? :rolleyes: Also, I've highlighted the bit that will be the reason for this thread being locked. Whilst you're welcome to make money from people who don't understand DayZ and don't want to play it properly, you won't be advertising that service here. Edited February 20, 2014 by Monkfish 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalibyr 4 Posted February 20, 2014 Why aren't the admins of the forum locking and deleting this thread? Because it's not breaking any rules. What this post is actually doing is bringing out the ugly side of the DayZ community. Most of the people who are against this have some sort of superiority complex and can't get over the fact that other people just don't enjoy spending countless hours running around to find nothing and just get killed and tortured by people like you who have the time during the day (obviously) to get geared. Now please, if you need evidence, refer to my good pal Mr. Professional Counter Strike Headshot Man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highlander007 249 Posted February 20, 2014 It's against the rules to advertise exchange of ingame items for money on this forum...I don't get why aren't the mods deleting this guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalibyr 4 Posted February 20, 2014 Yep. Was that so hard? Couldn't you have done that in the first post? :rolleyes: Also, I've highlighted the bit that will be the reason for this thread being locked. Whilst you're welcome to make money from people who don't understand DayZ and don't want to play it properly, you won't be advertising that service here. It was a joke. *whooosh* Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalibyr 4 Posted February 20, 2014 It's against the rules to advertise exchange of ingame items for money on this forum...I don't get why aren't the mods deleting this guy There can only be ONE way to get gear. HUZZAH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaughingJack (DayZ) 767 Posted February 20, 2014 Why aren't the admins of the forum locking and deleting this thread? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cywehner1234 582 Posted February 20, 2014 Some mods have lives, considering they are human. Report it and move on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted February 20, 2014 Because it's not breaking any rules. What this post is actually doing is bringing out the ugly side of the DayZ community. Most of the people who are against this have some sort of superiority complex and can't get over the fact that other people just don't enjoy spending countless hours running around to find nothing and just get killed and tortured by people like you who have the time during the day (obviously) to get geared. Now please, if you need evidence, refer to my good pal Mr. Professional Counter Strike Headshot Man. Don't hate. Gearing up is 50% of this game. It isn't 15% of the game like World of Warcraft where you maintain your purchase post-death. You die a lot in this game, no matter who you are. If you fail to understand that logic, then you're lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalibyr 4 Posted February 20, 2014 Honestly, I don't know which is more sad. The way you are fervently want the world of DayZ to be a place for your own twisted domination complex or the fact that you care so much in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites