irishroy 1347 Posted February 14, 2014 yes, we need scopes on the Blaser 3:] 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alldaypk 63 Posted February 14, 2014 It might be accurate but does terrible damageI got into a close range fight and hit the guy 3 times and he still lived and knocked me unconciousBut I did break his legs and my teammate shot another 4 magnum rounds in to him before the enemy diedThough I agree it's accurate, headshots are the only way to go with it or don't bother In my experience it's one shot with a magnum, insta kill anywhere on the body, perhaps it was something to do connection wise and you were missing your shots? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommes 331 Posted February 14, 2014 I have seen the videos, but I can tell you any iron sight mosin rifle is worthless beyond 300 yards.I corrected that for you. You're welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blacklabel79 949 Posted February 14, 2014 mhhh...i like the gun alot. Its a good "Pixel hunter" and i broke the legs of some people that where rather far away with it. I like the lack of optics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daemonkid 493 Posted February 14, 2014 In my experience it's one shot with a magnum, insta kill anywhere on the body, perhaps it was something to do connection wise and you were missing your shots? Magnum is piss poor at super close ranges like 5 meters.At 15 meters it insta-kills. Less than 10 is 50/50. 5 Meters is like lolwutdidyoushootmewith? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommes 331 Posted February 14, 2014 Now we need the Blaser R93 Tactical! I've got my hands onto one once. Just beautiful! You can operate the lever with your pinky easily. Awesome engineering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archone88 29 Posted February 14, 2014 I used it for quite some time, before I found a Mosin. And a 2shot kill rifle, with 2 rounds cap, is kind of balanced imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted February 14, 2014 All these "discussions" here,,, Now i just need a buggy :> 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franchi (DayZ) 146 Posted February 14, 2014 All these "discussions" here,,, Now i just need a buggy :>"hey 42 there is a camera right behind us""Yeah lets block it and let em get REAL dirty" I know,But misinformation about firearms? I just can't ignore it, its a horrible weakness of mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted February 14, 2014 i know this too good xDD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted February 26, 2014 Heres a modified mosin at 1000 yards. I'm not only sticking to stock data.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t2M1hC4c0tc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dt2M1hC4c0tc Yea that is a modified mosin using hand loads. Using a surplus mosin with a hex receiver like the one in game and mil surp ammo like the ones in game you would be lucky to get 400m hits consistently. The fact that you can hit stuff at 1200m in game is crazy. Surplus mosins are fine rifles for 100 dollars, but compared to a new bolt action rifle even a cheap entry level hunting rifle like a savage axis, the mosin in comparison is a piece of shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyT 554 Posted February 26, 2014 I enjoyed Blaze, but it really is the worst long arm in the game currently. With the frequency of SKS, it has no real value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted February 26, 2014 Hmm who is more likely to know his stuff when it comes to the mosin, the guy with two in the room with him, or the guy who cannot tell the difference between its barrel length and overall length when desperately searching wikipedia for evidence? With a factory fresh mosin of impeccable manufacture you could give the Blaser a run for its money you would come up short, but just barely, with a bit of gunsmithing and some match grade ammo you could beat it. With a mill surplus mosin and mill surplus ammo? It ain't gonna happen as that is the scenario in dayz it is the only scenario that matters in this discussion. The blaser should be more accurate, the mosin has more rounds and a faster rate of fire. I believe you are letting your probably bad experience with a savage 24 cloud your judgment. The American made double guns have nothing other than the general layout in common with this precision built German rifle. Where and when is that? Mexican revolution? Epic illustration. First off boy, trying to compile information while assisting customers, does not qualify as desperate. Second, owning two mosins hardly makes you an expert on every known production and or variation out there.Get some proof up of a mosin being ranged by a blaser. Otherwise, I'm dismissing this as fanboyism. At this point, both of you retards have lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted February 26, 2014 I enjoyed Blaze, but it really is the worst long arm in the game currently. With the frequency of SKS, it has no real value. Easy way to fix that is to remove the LRS from the mosin and give that to the B95. B95 easily mounts any hunting or tactical long range optics with any set of rings, the mosin cannot take any rail mounted optics unless you do substantial gunsmithing to the gun. Pu scope only for the mosin, b95 has option for lrs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Pu scope only for the mosin, b95 has option for lrs.^dis^ also, this would make it overall more balanced, i think.2 Shots with less damage and LRS. and 5 shots with more dmg, slower RoF and PU-scope but IMO, they really need to change/give the B95 something better than just the iron sights...They are good, but well.It takes 2 shots to kill some-1, even in extreme CQC.... but when the B95 gets a LRS, it should also get a bipod, because LRS, and so, you know? :D Edited February 26, 2014 by irishroy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duenan 226 Posted February 26, 2014 I want a mini 14 in the game... screw the b95 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted February 26, 2014 I want a mini 14 in the game... screw the b95 That is what I usually think of when I think of a ranch gun. The other ranch gun atleast what I think of when the word is brought up is the Ruger gunsight scout. Cool affordable bolt action gun with good iron sights, handy length, magazine fed rifle that can take optics in long eye relief or short eye relief varieties, it works great with red dots and holo graphic sights. Cool very handy rifle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franchi (DayZ) 146 Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) At this point, both of you retards have lost.Actually I was correct, as Coffee acknowledged before the end. No hard feelings on my end about it, just a misunderstanding. ^dis^ also, this would make it overall more balanced, i think.2 Shots with less damage and LRS. and 5 shots with more dmg, slower RoF and PU-scope but IMO, they really need to change/give the B95 something better than just the iron sights...They are good, but well.It takes 2 shots to kill some-1, even in extreme CQC.... but when the B95 gets a LRS, it should also get a bipod, because LRS, and so, you know? :DThe influence of 5 inches of barrel on ballistic performance has very little real world effect. Unless the B95 is using 7.63x51 instead of 7.62x54r (currently they both use the same in game) even then they should do the same amount of damage the difference between the rounds is rather negligible, amounting to around 200 FT-LBf. Realistically the B95 would be more likely to use the 7.62x54r anyway as it is a rimmed cartridge and break action guns do better with rimmed cartridges. I want a mini 14 in the game... screw the b95You mean the M14 I hope, the mini 14 would be a downgrade from an M4. Edited February 26, 2014 by Franchi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted February 26, 2014 You mean the M14 I hope, the mini 14 would be a downgrade from an M4. Why think of it that way ? Think of it in what makes sense to have in the game. The mini 14 sure can be seen as a downgrade over the m4 but it is a cheaper rifle, widely available and has been successful for years now. It would make sense to see that. A m14 would absolutely not make sense to see, not a ton of full auto m14s out there any more not within the military and not in civilian hands. If you are refering to the m1a the civilian m14 then sure there are a few out there but they arent really that common due to their insane prices and far better .308 semi auto rifle options in the civilian market. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franchi (DayZ) 146 Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Why think of it that way ? Think of it in what makes sense to have in the game. The mini 14 sure can be seen as a downgrade over the m4 but it is a cheaper rifle, widely available and has been successful for years now. It would make sense to see that. A m14 would absolutely not make sense to see, not a ton of full auto m14s out there any more not within the military and not in civilian hands. If you are refering to the m1a the civilian m14 then sure there are a few out there but they arent really that common due to their insane prices and far better .308 semi auto rifle options in the civilian market.Oh I agree a M14 wouldn't make a lot of sense, but why bother including the Mini 14, it won't add anything to the game doesn't make any more sense than a m14 and all it is is a less accurate less easily upgraded competitor to the M4. Why not add a FAL instead? Edited February 26, 2014 by Franchi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted February 26, 2014 ^dis^ also, this would make it overall more balanced, i think.2 Shots with less damage and LRS. and 5 shots with more dmg, slower RoF and PU-scope but IMO, they really need to change/give the B95 something better than just the iron sights...They are good, but well.It takes 2 shots to kill some-1, even in extreme CQC.... but when the B95 gets a LRS, it should also get a bipod, because LRS, and so, you know? :D Are you 100% sure the B95 actually does less damage than the Mosin? In my experience the B95 drops people just as fast or faster than the Mosin. If anything, I'd put them on equal grounds as far as shot damage is concerned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishroy 1347 Posted February 26, 2014 i heard multiple people saying, that the B takes 2 shots to kill some1, even at point blank to the chest (=under 20/30m). however, it drops zeds really good at 100m+ I would really like to know, if the B deals the exact same dmg as the mosin, or less/more.Where can i find out (aside from killing people ;) ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted February 26, 2014 Oh I agree a M14 wouldn't make a lot of sense, but why bother including the Mini 14, it won't add anything to the game doesn't make any more sense than a m14 and all it is is a less accurate less easily upgraded competitor to the M4. Why not add a FAL instead? Fn Fal , and a g3 would actually be commonly found weapons in eastern Europe and the middle east. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites