Blaze B95 Rifle

[frosti 2165]

Is there a way to tell if you have 1 bullet mode or 2 bullet mode?

 

Or you have to momorize how many times you press "T" ?

[PhillyT 554]

I paid for mine to add to my Russian rifle collection and have shot it a handful of times. I honestly haven't tried to improve it or myself in firing it, so I am probably not the greatest judge.  

 

I can't imagine the Mosin's laying around Chernarus are really much better in terms of condition though!

[gibonez 3633]

It will invariably range a mosin.

 

About the best you are going to get from a mosin in its original stock with its original barrel is 2MOA (and that is only if you hand pick from a pile with a bore scope), the blazer will give you 1MOA.

 

Just stop now, it has become obvious I cannot educate you

 

2 moa out of a mosin maybe if you use hand loads and like you said fine one of exceptional quality.

 

4 moa is more likely.

[weedmasta 784]

It is but if you fire with the both barrels function and miss without a reloader your in allot of  trouble.

 

Even with a reloader the reload time is quiet daunting.

[frosti 2165]

Even with a reloader the reload time is quiet daunting.

 

Becouse it is a fancy hunting weapon for killing helpless animals, not a war gun like m4.

[Franchi (DayZ) 146]

Becouse it is a fancy hunting weapon for killing helpless animals, not a war gun like m4.

Minor correction, fancy hunting rifle once popular for killing dangerous animals.

Edited February 14, 2014 by Franchi

[frosti 2165]

Minor correction, fancy hunting rifle once popular for killing dangerous animals.

 

I'll elaborate.

 

Yeah it is a weapon capable of killing dangerous animals.

 

It is nice hunting weapon becouse you can feel good about yourself when you kill animal with weapon with only 2 bullets.

 

But in case if those 2 bullets were not enought to kill dangerous animal or the hunter missed, there awlays were guys with machine guns or other guns with more bullets to help the hunter with B95. That's why I called the animals helpless.

[GrappleX 354]

 

 

But in case if those 2 bullets were not enought to kill dangerous animal or the hunter missed, there awlays were guys with machine guns or other guns with more bullets to help the hunter with B95. That's why I called the animals helpless.

 

Dafuq?

[Ineedscoffee 464]

My findings:

Blaser b95 is still a general purpose gun. Used mostly for close range hunting of wild boar and deer. Used in skeet shooting. Could find nothing on the effective long range end. 200 yards was most of the recorded data. Now even if a few people may of used it to hunt in Africa, that doesent mean they were parked deep up a mountain and putting a gazelle down a mile away. Most hunting safaris involved guides herding big game in front of the hunter, then him pulling the trigger. Never more then a couple hundred yards. Mostly depending on the caliber, rifling, and conditions.

It's a novelty weapon adapted land owners who were allowed no more then one firearm per household. For hunting, you have the top barrel, self defense was commonly a shotgun bottom.

Very destructive in its ranges, no doubt about that, however, it is untested as a long range sniper rifle. Or there's no data supporting it anyways. Given the shorter barrels, being akin to shotgun length, it could not feasibly range a mosin.

The mosin was seen wide spread use as a war rifle. Made famous by Zaitsev amongst the Russians, made famous by the British for being a piss poor gun. Extremely simple and dependable, plus cheap. Only reason it saw so much action.

Sharpshooters have recorded data of it hitting targets as far as 1.5km, and perfect conditions to 2.5km. 1500 plus yards in the right hands and with perfect conditions. Granted, Zaitsev was fighting in Stalingrad, and a 300 yard shot in those conditions is impressive, the average effective range is 500 to 800 yards with optics.

The mosin also had a 51 and a 1/2 long barrel. We all know the longer the barrel, the more rifiling allowable. That coupled with a large caliber such as the 7.62, will put rounds downfield.

Compare that to the average 24 and 1/2 barrel of the blaser.

Shall I research more?

[frosti 2165]

My findings:

Blaser b95 is still a general purpose gun. Used mostly for close range hunting of wild boar and deer. Used in skeet shooting. Could find nothing on the effective long range end. 200 yards was most of the recorded data. Now even if a few people may of used it to hunt in Africa, that doesent mean they were parked deep up a mountain and putting a gazelle down a mile away. Most hunting safaris involved guides herding big game in front of the hunter, then him pulling the trigger. Never more then a couple hundred yards. Mostly depending on the caliber, rifling, and conditions.

It's a novelty weapon adapted land owners who were allowed no more then one firearm per household. For hunting, you have the top barrel, self defense was commonly a shotgun bottom.

Very destructive in its ranges, no doubt about that, however, it is untested as a long range sniper rifle. Or there's no data supporting it anyways. Given the shorter barrels, being akin to shotgun length, it could not feasibly range a mosin.

The mosin was seen wide spread use as a war rifle. Made famous by Zaitsev amongst the Russians, made famous by the British for being a piss poor gun. Extremely simple and dependable, plus cheap. Only reason it saw so much action.

Sharpshooters have recorded data of it hitting targets as far as 1.5km, and perfect conditions to 2.5km. 1500 plus yards in the right hands and with perfect conditions. Granted, Zaitsev was fighting in Stalingrad, and a 300 yard shot in those conditions is impressive, the average effective range is 500 to 800 yards with optics.

The mosin also had a 51 and a 1/2 long barrel. We all know the longer the barrel, the more rifiling allowable. That coupled with a large caliber such as the 7.62, will put rounds downfield.

Compare that to the average 24 and 1/2 barrel of the blaser.

Shall I research more?

 

[frosti 2165]

Dafuq?

 

Well if hunter with B95  killed boar or lion with it then ok.

 

But when he missed or those 2 bullets were not enought to kill, were then lion or boar allowed to gore the hunter?

 

Ofcourse no. There were backup guys with backup guns to prevent such situation and those backup guns sure were not b95.

[Crooked Hauser 258]

I passed up a mint M4 tonight in order to hold on to my Blaze. And I'm also wearing an orange rain coat, orange construction helmet and have a giant orange wrench on my back. Don't want to be confused with a bandit.

I actually spent 15 minutes banging on a water pump in Stary Sobor hoping someone would come along so I could ask them how much they were paying me to fix the plumbing.

[PhillyT 554]

I passed up a mint M4 tonight in order to hold on to my Blaze. And I'm also wearing an orange rain coat, orange construction helmet and have a giant orange wrench on my back. Don't want to be confused with a bandit.

I actually spent 15 minutes banging on a water pump in Stary Sobor hoping someone would come along so I could ask them how much they were paying me to fix the plumbing.

 

LOL love it!

[frosti 2165]

I passed up a mint M4 tonight in order to hold on to my Blaze. And I'm also wearing an orange rain coat, orange construction helmet and have a giant orange wrench on my back. Don't want to be confused with a bandit.

I actually spent 15 minutes banging on a water pump in Stary Sobor hoping someone would come along so I could ask them how much they were paying me to fix the plumbing.

 

I also have Blaze becouse style. Plus when I hit the coast I feel like one of those rich guys on safari in Africa.

 

^fancy leather shoes

Edited February 14, 2014 by Frosti

[Franchi (DayZ) 146]

My findings:

Blaser b95 is still a general purpose gun. Used mostly for close range hunting of wild boar and deer. Used in skeet shooting. Could find nothing on the effective long range end. 200 yards was most of the recorded data. Now even if a few people may of used it to hunt in Africa, that doesent mean they were parked deep up a mountain and putting a gazelle down a mile away. Most hunting safaris involved guides herding big game in front of the hunter, then him pulling the trigger. Never more then a couple hundred yards. Mostly depending on the caliber, rifling, and conditions.

It's a novelty weapon adapted land owners who were allowed no more then one firearm per household. For hunting, you have the top barrel, self defense was commonly a shotgun bottom.

Very destructive in its ranges, no doubt about that, however, it is untested as a long range sniper rifle. Or there's no data supporting it anyways. Given the shorter barrels, being akin to shotgun length, it could not feasibly range a mosin.

The mosin was seen wide spread use as a war rifle. Made famous by Zaitsev amongst the Russians, made famous by the British for being a piss poor gun. Extremely simple and dependable, plus cheap. Only reason it saw so much action.

Sharpshooters have recorded data of it hitting targets as far as 1.5km, and perfect conditions to 2.5km. 1500 plus yards in the right hands and with perfect conditions. Granted, Zaitsev was fighting in Stalingrad, and a 300 yard shot in those conditions is impressive, the average effective range is 500 to 800 yards with optics.

The mosin also had a 51 and a 1/2 long barrel. We all know the longer the barrel, the more rifiling allowable. That coupled with a large caliber such as the 7.62, will put rounds downfield.

Compare that to the average 24 and 1/2 barrel of the blaser.

Shall I research more?

OMG where to start????

 

No mosin nagant EVER BUILT has a 51 inch barrel, no standard issue military rifle HAS EVER USED a 51 inch barrel. That is the OVERALL length of the weapon, the barrel on a 9130 should be 29 inches, 20 on carbines giveing the ones in game exactly 5 inches on the B95.

 

More rifling is irrelevant as far as accuracy goes beyond about 20 inches many guns with shorter barrels are just as accurate, a longer barrel allows higher muzzle velocities as more of the powder burns behind the bullet before it leaves the barrel, increasing chamber pressure and velocity.

 

We are not dealing with a factory fresh mosin in 1882 or 1942 we are dealing with a 70 year old relic, data from WW2 is irrelevant to this discussion, find data on mill surplus mosins, that is what we have in game.

 

In game the B95 uses the same ammo as a mosin, IRL it uses a variety of rounds, many of them are more powerful than the 7.62x54r

 

The United States Marines use a Sniper rifle with a barrel the SAME length as the Blaser at 24 inches.

 

 

 Please call me an idiot in your sig, Ill assume most of the posters on these forums will laugh as hard as I am at what you just said.

 

 

I'll elaborate.

 

Yeah it is a weapon capable of killing dangerous animals.

 

It is nice hunting weapon because you can feel good about yourself when you kill animal with weapon with only 2 bullets.

 

But in case if those 2 bullets were not enough to kill dangerous animal or the hunter missed, there awlays were guys with machine guns or other guns with more bullets to help the hunter with B95. That's why I called the animals helpless.

I was speaking historically about double guns, not specifically about the B95 in this regard.

Edited February 14, 2014 by Franchi

[Ineedscoffee 464]

The barrel extends back to the stock, that's where my measurement data came from. I'm comparing all relevant data, not just pertaining to dayz.

If you want to jump around, wave your hands in the air like a panicked spongebob, more power to ya.

Unless your one of those that believe the barrel ends the moment it meets the wood.....

Edited February 14, 2014 by Ineedscoffee

[PhillyT 554]

Gentlemen please!

 

Can't we all meet in Solichnya and discuss this like gentlemen?

[Ineedscoffee 464]

Also, far as talking about the m40 here, have a little bit for you when I was in

Eat the apple, f the corp

[Franchi (DayZ) 146]

The barrel extends back to the stock, that's where my measurement data came from. I'm comparing all relevant data, not just pertaining to dayz.

If you want to jump around, wave your hands in the air like a panicked spongebob, more power to ya.

I cannot fathom how you think the barrel is 51 inches, my bet is you read the wikipedia article, and took overall length to be the barrel length, so let me repeat no mosin ever built has a 51 1/2 inch barrel, most mosins however are near that length overall

 

Here one last chance for you this is a WW2 production mosin, note the round receiver and tooling marks next to a tape measure this is one of two in the room with me right now

 

I don't know why I bother you are beyond helping, Given that you are this completely WRONG about this aspect of your "findings" What are the chances the rest of your "findings" are worth the pixels you expressed them with?

Edited February 14, 2014 by Franchi

[-Gews- 7443]

The mosin also had a 51 and a 1/2 long barrel.

Heh.

[Ineedscoffee 464]

Then I misread the article, it happens. However, I still maintain that you will not be able to range a mosin with a blaser.

[GoldenKade 73]

What makes you think any mosin you find in 2014 is fit for any kind of long range use ?

Not to be a dick but mosins, with proper equipment can hit up to around 1000 meters away. They're capable of longer ranges.

[Franchi (DayZ) 146]

Then I misread the article, it happens. However, I still maintain that you will not be able to range a mosin with a blaser.

Hmm who is more likely to know his stuff when it comes to the mosin, the guy with two in the room with him, or the guy who cannot tell the difference between its barrel length and overall length when desperately searching wikipedia for evidence?

 

With a factory fresh mosin of impeccable manufacture you could give the Blaser a run for its money you would come up short, but just barely, with a bit of gunsmithing and some match grade ammo you could beat it. With a mill surplus mosin and mill surplus ammo? It ain't gonna happen as that is the scenario in dayz it is the only scenario that matters in this discussion. The blaser should be more accurate, the mosin has more rounds and a faster rate of fire.

 

I believe you are letting your probably bad experience with a savage 24 cloud your judgment. The American made double guns have nothing other than the general layout in common with this precision built German rifle.

 

 

Heh.

Where and when is that? Mexican revolution? Epic illustration.

Edited February 14, 2014 by Franchi

[Ineedscoffee 464]

First off boy, trying to compile information while assisting customers, does not qualify as desperate. Second, owning two mosins hardly makes you an expert on every known production and or variation out there.

Get some proof up of a mosin being ranged by a blaser. Otherwise, I'm dismissing this as fanboyism.

Edited February 14, 2014 by Ineedscoffee

[gibonez 3633]

Not to be a dick but mosins, with proper equipment can hit up to around 1000 meters away. They're capable of longer ranges.

 

Being able to lob a round out at that range and being able to hit an object are two things.

 

You can lob a .22lr out to 2000m also but you aren't going to hit anything.