Glock 18 just out of curiosity

[xRann 126]

Why would an M4 be in chernarus?

M16/4's have proliferated worldwide. There's almost no place where you couldn't find one. Not saying it'd be easy and there'd be a metric ton of them, but they are a common firearm...we sold lots of 'em to many, many different nations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbine#Users

[GrappleX 354]

Why would an M4 be in chernarus?

 

The M4 is one of the most universal and commonly used assault rifles in the world. Chernarus is a former soviet state with recent western influences. The thought of them acquiring a fair number of M4's isnt too far fetched. Meanwhile, Glock 18's are rare, incredibly expensive machine pistols that are not used by any major military/police force and are almost certainly illegal in every European country.

 

M4 = Feasible, but there are better alternatives.

 

Glock 18 = Entirely unfeasible with a ton of better alternatives.

[oregonized 673]

Yeah, it makes no sense at all to have a cool gun in a video game based in a fictional country.

[xRann 126]

Yeah, it makes no sense at all to have a cool gun in a video game based in a fictional country.

There is still canon that should be adhered to.

[apollovulcan 93]

No.  The light goes through walls and gives away your position at night.  It doesn't matter what you do and it probably will still be an issue after the official release of DayZ.

 

Which makes so much sense and we should just all roll over and accept that right?

 

What a fucking farce.

[apollovulcan 93]

There is still canon that should be adhered to.

 

Yeah you're right, the Canon of AS50s and M107s, Bizon 19s, L85s, you're right.  So much rich history to preserve here from the absolute shit mod that we've been dealing with.  Will idiots like you please stop posting?

[GrappleX 354]

Yeah you're right, the Canon of AS50s and M107s, Bizon 19s, L85s, you're right.  So much rich history to preserve here from the absolute shit mod that we've been dealing with.  Will idiots like you please stop posting?

 

Nobody's trying to preserve anything form the mod. xRann is right, and guns like the Glock 18 should not be included.

[apollovulcan 93]

The M4 is one of the most universal and commonly used assault rifles in the world. Chernarus is a former soviet state with recent western influences. The thought of them acquiring a fair number of M4's isnt too far fetched. Meanwhile, Glock 18's are rare, incredibly expensive machine pistols that are not used by any major military/police force and are almost certainly illegal in every European country.

 

M4 = Feasible, but there are better alternatives.

 

Glock 18 = Entirely unfeasible with a ton of better alternatives.

 

Are you serious with this?  So when did the FNX45 pistol become standard issue to anyone in the US military?  Anyone in NATO?  Anyone at all?  How did M4s end up in Russia?  Because the US army was there?  If the US Army was there why the fuck would they have some off pistol from Columbia SC?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_individual_weapons_of_the_U.S._Armed_Forces#In_active_service_2

 

It's so nice how people just post out of their asses on here.  If we're talking feasible with the US military somehow being involved in this "canon" you all beat your dicks to, you'd be more inclined to see a M1911, or other 45s.. or.. wait for it... Glocks!  No information listed anywhere shows that FNX has ever been a service issued weapon, or its apparent extreme fame and popularity in Russia, and this canon you're all so uppity on.

 

Unfeasible?  Nothing in this game is feasible, know why?  It's a fucking game.

Edited February 14, 2014 by McG2

[apollovulcan 93]

Nobody's trying to preserve anything form the mod. xRann is right, and guns like the Glock 18 should not be included.

 

How about you provide some actual information for your absolutely skewed and unfounded provocation?  What are you basing this off of?  See my post above, you're just talking out of your ass, sorry.  Machine pistols, automatic conversions for pistols, pistols and guns of all shapes and sizes, should all be in the game eventually.  Why wouldn't they be?  Because YOU think they shouldn't?  Based on what?

Edited February 14, 2014 by McG2

[Franchi (DayZ) 146]

Possibly because they would be rather tied up defending their homeland and neighbouring countries if that occurred. Sending troops halfway round the globe on such an occasion would be downright stupid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases

 

We wouldn't have to send troops form America, they would already be on the same continent just a few hundred miles away, if that.

[xRann 126]

Yeah you're right, the Canon of AS50s and M107s, Bizon 19s, L85s, you're right.  So much rich history to preserve here from the absolute shit mod that we've been dealing with.  Will idiots like you please stop posting?

Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired. Those were carryovers from ArmaII, no business in Dayz, hence removed. But hey, we can't all be brilliant like you. Since Or3goniz3d is in fact stating that because the gun is cool it should be in-game. Which you clearly failed to grasp.

[GrappleX 354]

  How did M4s end up in Russia? 

 

 

I never said anything about the U.S military. The M4 and designs based off its platform are incredibly common. A country with recent western influences could be presumed to have purchased or acquired M4 type designs for themselves.

[oregonized 673]

Everyone needs to step away from the realism approach because Chernarus is a fictional country.  It is a video game that is meant for entertainment, so why not have some cool weapons to play with?  Nothing about this game is realistic and the sooner people realize this, the better.

[DonTonino 4]

The Makarov has no ejection port on the left side, and no safety on the right side. While it is fairly common for more recent handguns to have ambidextrous safety and releases, I can't remember of any handgun being sold with a left-sided ejection port, unless maybe as an after market customization. I doubt a Chernarus military or gangster would go the expense for such a modification on a Makarov though :P

 

 

Ya all people are suggesting these types of weapons while I'm still waiting for the Makarov.

[GrappleX 354]

 so why not have some cool weapons to play with?  

 

Because rocket wants the game to be authentic? Glock 18's and guns like that completely ruin that vision.

Edited February 14, 2014 by GrappleX

[apollovulcan 93]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases

 

We wouldn't have to send troops form America, they would already be on the same continent just a few hundred miles away, if that.

 

Still doesn't account for how Remington rifles or how a German rifle is readily available in Russia.  Germany sent their people here too, eh?  Let's send every countries' military to go die instead of containing the infection properly, makes sense.

 

Guns like A glock would make much more sense in this game, the way it's set up and the way it's going, due to their interchangeable parts on the multiple barrel models.  Sorry no one can deny that it would be completely badass to have a glock and be able to switch the barrel on it to shoot different ammunition types.  If that isn't a survivalist's pistol, I don't know what is.

[GrappleX 354]

 

Guns like A glock would make much more sense in this game, 

 

You're right, a glock would make sense. Just not a glock 18. Any other model would fit fine.

[oregonized 673]

Because rocket wants the game to be authentic? Glock 18's and guns like that completely ruin that vision.

Authentic to what?  If he wants the game to have an authentic feel, why the fuck is there a ton of air fields and military bases in such a small area that houses maybe 10,000 people?  Your argument is invalid.

[xRann 126]

Still doesn't account for how Remington rifles or how a German rifle is readily available in Russia.  Germany sent their people here too, eh?  Let's send every countries' military to go die instead of containing the infection properly, makes sense.

 

Guns like A glock would make much more sense in this game, the way it's set up and the way it's going, due to their interchangeable parts on the multiple barrel models.  Sorry no one can deny that it would be completely badass to have a glock and be able to switch the barrel on it to shoot different ammunition types.  If that isn't a survivalist's pistol, I don't know what is.

This isn't about ALL Glocks. This is about the Glock 18 in particular. Everyone has agreed that Glocks would be in the area, the common varieties...fuckin' read with that brilliant mind of yours.

[GrappleX 354]

  If he wants the game to have an authentic feel, why the fuck is there a ton of air fields and military bases in such a small area that houses maybe 10,000 people?  Your argument is invalid.

 

Just because some parts of the game aren't authentic doesn't mean everything else can be thrown out the window. Guns shouldn't be added just because "they look cool." 

[hells high 676]

The fnx is nice but it's getting annoying, no extended clips, suppressor isn't working. flashlights go through walls revealing your location, so basically when you get it the mods are pretty much plain and useless.

 

Those are bugs with the entire set of gun mechanics, adding a new pistol isn't going to magically fix them... a Glock with a suppressor and a light is going to act the exact same way.

 

Also I believe the maximum caliber they manufacture the Glock in is .45, the exact same as the FNX pistol. So no it won't have better stopping power.

 

 

The Makarov has no ejection port on the left side, and no safety on the right side. While it is fairly common for more recent handguns to have ambidextrous safety and releases, I can't remember of any handgun being sold with a left-sided ejection port, unless maybe as an after market customization. I doubt a Chernarus military or gangster would go the expense for such a modification on a Makarov though :P

 

Its from STALKER, all of their weapon models are backwards.

Edited February 14, 2014 by Hells High

[oregonized 673]

Just because some parts of the game aren't authentic doesn't mean everything else can be thrown out the window. Guns shouldn't be added just because "they look cool." 

Nothing about the game is authentic because everything is basically taken from two other games.  So yeah, authenticity can be thrown out the window.  I also never said that the gun looks cool, but having a fully automatic pistol would be very cool.  Why does it make no sense for there to be a Glock 18 when zombies can walk through walls and know your location without seeing or hearing you?

[GrappleX 354]

  Why does it make no sense for there to be a Glock 18 when zombies can walk through walls and know your location without seeing or hearing you?

 

Are you using bugs in the game to justify adding a Glock 18? Zombies being buggy has nothing to do with why this gun wouldn't fit in the game.

[oregonized 673]

Are you using bugs in the game to justify adding a Glock 18? Zombies being buggy has nothing to do with why this gun wouldn't fit in the game.

There is no reason why the gun wouldn't fit in the game other than personal opinion.  You can't claim facts when there is already many things that contradict those facts either.  Stop pretending that Chernarus is a real country because it isn't and nothing about it screams realistic.

[GrappleX 354]

There is no reason why the gun wouldn't fit in the game other than personal opinion.  You can't claim facts when there is already many things that contradict those facts either.  Stop pretending that Chernarus is a real country because it isn't and nothing about it screams realistic.

 There's a reason that the first guns added to the standalone were a double barrel, hunting rifle and revolver. Rocket has a vision for this game which involves very little "l33t" guns like Glock 18's. Again, any other glock would fit fine, just not an 18.