akpe 36 Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) I was at the military base south of Vybor to search for ammo. While searching the upper prison floor the server restarted/crashed, which literally gave me tachycardia... what if I spawn next to a bandit in the next server? What if I spawn on top of a zombie and I don't have the time to raise my axe? What if the sky falls down on me? What if Justin Bieber does not retire? You get the idea.Well I waited a bit and tried another server, having no close combat experience I picked a relatively empty one, just to manage to get the hell out of there safely. Hmm, 5 players, that's good, what are the chances of spawning right next to one, right? Wrong. I spawned inside the prison again, this time it was the ground floor. Not ten seconds later, I heard someone reloading an SKS on the upper floor. All doors were closed, so he must have also just spawned. He was in the middle of the stairs, going up. I could see his bayonet sticking below them. I took cover below the stairs and immediately made contact though text and voice chat. The second was a BIG MISTAKE. Should have just used text chat, now with voice he has already pinpointed my location. "Hello, friendly". No response. "Please lower your weapon". No response. I typed "friendly", again nothing. He leaned, saw me, and went up the stairs. He typed something along the lines of "hey", can't remember exactly what. I typed and asked him if he had a mic. Nothing. I leaned right and saw him on the top of the stairs, weapon ready, aiming at me. I took cover, went on voice and told him "I can seeee you!". Again no response. I could see his left shoulder, he was crouched on top of the ledge overlooking the stairs, moving left and right, obviously to get a clear shot. I had his shoulder aimed through the small opening, and went on voice again. "Man if you don't lower your weapon I -will- shoot, last warning". Nothing.Took a small step to the right, exposing my shoulder and weapon, and fired some warning shots on the ceiling above him (which probably hit the back of the stairs), then went back into cover. Second mistake. Even if I had a small chance of a friendly encounter (judging by his lack of communication I did not, but for the sake of argument...) that chance was now gone. He did not move a muscle, at least I heard nothing. I took another small step, and he fired a couple of shots, I literally said "heeere we go" and returned fire. The second time he fired, one round hit me. I returned fire, again without hitting him and crawled back to my comfy cover to bandage myself.That was it. He had a clear advantage so I either stayed there and died, or tried to make a run for it and seek better cover. I decided to do the latter. I ran straight for the exit, went right, took cover behind a car and waited for him to come out. As much as I hate being Killed on Sight, I was definitely going to shoot first and ask questions later. I waited for a couple of minutes, my vision blurry, my heard pounding, nothing. Exited through the south gate and followed the wall north, maybe to get a better position. After a couple of minutes I heard a distant shot from the base, could have been him engaging a zombie, but it was enough to make me run for the hills trees. It's now three to four minutes after the encounter and I'm covered somewhere at the treeline east of the base, leading to Kabanino. My vision, is still blurry, I can't even distinguish a human figure with the scope, and I had no idea how blurry vision can be worked around. I waited a bit and started retreating towards east, crouched and using the trees as cover. When I reached the deer stand, towards the end of the road, I sprinted towards the city and took cover somewhere in the trees. My vision was still blurry so, I had to eat and drink until energized/hydrated. But since I could not see anything past twenty meters, I decided to take the chance and log off (about five minutes after the brushfire, hence the combat log), so I could stuff myself the next time I play, preferably with my buddies around. I waited another ten to twenty seconds, just in case he appeared from somewhere and took me out of my misery, and logged off. So there it goes,,, "Hi, my name is akpe, and I'm a combat logger"... and a coward. :ph34r: Edited February 12, 2014 by akpe 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Proper Gander 45 Posted February 12, 2014 I don't really count this as "combat logging," although undoubtedly others will disagree with me. However, you made a prudent decision and chose survival over death by your long, arduous retreat to a "safer" place. Nothing wrong with that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pugs2300 2 Posted February 12, 2014 i see no problem....it may have been a little cowardly but fair play non the less....you took your chances with the log out timer and lived to fight another day....if the game lets you do it and everyone has the same opportunity to do the same i see no problem with it...so tired of everyone crying about people logging or using exploits, etc....reminds me of a bunch of 5 year olds trying to play a game with a bunch of made up rules that no one follows...they scream thats not the way the devs intended the game to be played....well they need to fix it so people can't play that way....that is their job after all....and im sure in time they will fix what they want to fix....after all like is said so many times.....this is an alpha....they way i see it its almost your responsibility to find and exploit the exploits....and ill be damned if im gonna put myself at a disadvantage just because you tell me thats not the right way to play the game...when no one can do it i wont be able to either and their problem will be solved....until then people really need to stop whining about it....you find an exploit....report it if its not known....and exploit it as you please 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InflatedLyric 39 Posted February 12, 2014 I enjoyed the read. I would also argue that after 5 mins and putting that much space between you and him, the engagement was over. He sounds like a server hopper, or maybe just as unfortunate as you and got restarted in the same area or d/c (truth is we will never know, unless he starts talking). I always try to log back into the same server that just restarted, usually should be somewhat safer, but there also seems to be more people hopping just after a restart too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InflatedLyric 39 Posted February 12, 2014 ...you find an exploit...and exploit it as you please That can be a very dangerous attitude as some exploits can get an account perma-banned. It really depends on the developers and the exploit on a case-by-case basis. Besides, your argument that since it is not being prevented it is allowed until it is no longer functional, does not hold water. Seriously if we are going to get technical one could theoretically start exploiting until they find themselves in real legal trouble by their government for breaking actual laws. Therefore, where do you (and even the rest of us) draw the line, because government laws are simply another socially arbitrary set of rules that are exploitable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThePieKing 17 Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) I enjoyed the read. I would also argue that after 5 mins and putting that much space between you and him, the engagement was over. He sounds like a server hopper, or maybe just as unfortunate as you and got restarted in the same area or d/c (truth is we will never know, unless he starts talking). I always try to log back into the same server that just restarted, usually should be somewhat safer, but there also seems to be more people hopping just after a restart too. I agree, after that much time and distance the fight was over. You said you waited a few minutes outside for the guy, and he didn't come to you, he wasn't gonna come out for a fight. You left the area and he didn't follow, so the engagement was over. EDIT: If he did follow though, you just died. :P Edited February 12, 2014 by ThePieKing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darthbane67 92 Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) You are not a combat logger my good sir you did a superb job chap. Combat logging is were you log right at the SIGHT of another player or immediately after ANY confrontation with a player. You engaged both vocally and physically (shooting) before realizing he had the superior position and you opted for the tactical retreat. You then waited a bit after first contact before going from the first location to 2 different locations. You even proceeded to wait a bit before logging to make sure no one snuck up on you then logged that sir is smart thinking. Now if you want to get rid of the blurry next time quickly go to the video tab under options real fast then close options. That should get rid of the blurry it works for me, now if you like the realism of the blurry good for you on doing what I can not. "All is fair in love and war. Except you damn combat loggers you can go straight to hell." - ME Edited February 12, 2014 by KaserinSmarte67 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rauchsauger 94 Posted February 13, 2014 Yap that fixes it just hit escape - click video and then close the menu again. [...] Now if you want to get rid of the blurry next time quickly go to the video tab under options real fast then close options. That should get rid of the blurry it works for me, now if you like the realism of the blurry good for you on doing what I can not. "All is fair in love and war. Except you damn combat loggers you can go straight to hell." - ME Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pugs2300 2 Posted February 13, 2014 That can be a very dangerous attitude as some exploits can get an account perma-banned. It really depends on the developers and the exploit on a case-by-case basis. Besides, your argument that since it is not being prevented it is allowed until it is no longer functional, does not hold water. Seriously if we are going to get technical one could theoretically start exploiting until they find themselves in real legal trouble by their government for breaking actual laws. Therefore, where do you (and even the rest of us) draw the line, because government laws are simply another socially arbitrary set of rules that are exploitayour apparently one of the people that cry about this all the time....dude its a video game...if they wanna come put me in jail for glitching through a wall or duping ammo or some shit like that then so be it....thats just rediculous....also this is an alpha and the whole damn point is to find and exploit exploits....how do you even go from a conversation about exploits in a video game to breaking "government laws"....you can't be serious.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spartanxapathy 203 Posted February 13, 2014 You are fine man, nothing wrong with what you did. A combat logger would have logged as soon as possible, you put space and time between yourself and him. Honestly, I respect that you realized you were out positioned and got out of there. Also, good read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nienko 41 Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) That can be a very dangerous attitude as some exploits can get an account perma-banned. It really depends on the developers and the exploit on a case-by-case basis. Besides, your argument that since it is not being prevented it is allowed until it is no longer functional, does not hold water. Seriously if we are going to get technical one could theoretically start exploiting until they find themselves in real legal trouble by their government for breaking actual laws. Therefore, where do you (and even the rest of us) draw the line, because government laws are simply another socially arbitrary set of rules that are exploitable.You should be permabanned for the bs you talk.I use all the exploits that I can while I can and I will, till its fixed and no one is going to ban me. This is not warz where you get banned for every little shit or just for nothig at all..And to OP. I dont know if you just trying to share your story or something, but this is not combatlog. Not even close. Edited February 13, 2014 by Nienko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites