infiltrator 275 Posted February 3, 2014 Every fight I get into, people are using 3rd person to their advantage. I know because I can see the tip of their head as they scroll past a wall looking STRAIGHT at me behind it. This is just ridiculous, people entering a building standing on the edge of the door and scoping for threats.. just ridiculous. Maybe 3rd person should remain but it should be limited to the point where you can't abuse it if thats even possible. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gaweu 42 Posted February 3, 2014 Every fight I get into, people are using 3rd person to their advantage. I know because I can see the tip of their head as they scroll past a wall looking STRAIGHT at me behind it. This is just ridiculous, people entering a building standing on the edge of the door and scoping for threats.. just ridiculous. Maybe 3rd person should remain but it should be limited to the point where you can't abuse it if thats even possible.Go and play hardcore servers. No big deal. This is how it is. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DropBearChick 1216 Posted February 3, 2014 If your gonna keep complaining about an alpha game then this isnt for you, go back to cod ghosts 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spartanxapathy 203 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) If your gonna keep complaining about an alpha game then this isnt for you, go back to cod ghosts How does this have ANYTHING to do with the fact that the game is in alpha or CoD: Ghosts? Edited February 3, 2014 by SpartanxApathy 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyline-gtr 130 Posted February 3, 2014 it has a lot to do with it being in alpha, it you would understand the concept.as for CoD, it might be a running joke... and yeah try a hardcore server, i hear there is no 3rd person on those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djporternz 644 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) I play on Hardcore servers exclusively (1PP only FTW), except for testing purposes. 3PP is not an issue for me. Also, everything possible to say for or against 3PP has already be stated. Go search and do some reading. Edited February 3, 2014 by DJPorterNZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sobieski12 835 Posted February 3, 2014 Every fight I get into, people are using 3rd person to their advantage. I know because I can see the tip of their head as they scroll past a wall looking STRAIGHT at me behind it. This is just ridiculous, people entering a building standing on the edge of the door and scoping for threats.. just ridiculous. Maybe 3rd person should remain but it should be limited to the point where you can't abuse it if thats even possible. I'd personally suggest "Hardcore servers" for fair game-play. Regular servers are basically for those who want to exploit the 3rd person camera and stay on 24/7 day servers.* I would not be surprised once vehicles are added, we will see 4,000 vehicle servers. <- "Just like the classic mod" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedDogMT 41 Posted February 3, 2014 Sometimes I just like the survival aspect of DayZ and 3rd person is a much more enjoyable way to view the game when I am running around the world or hunting for resources. When I am looking to PvP, I prefer hardcore servers. Both views have their use. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teufel937 49 Posted February 3, 2014 If you're in a 3PP:ON and in a PvP scenario.. and they are "using it to their advantage" why not do the same? OR.. Play on 3PP:OFF It is that simple, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadAsh (DayZ) 1513 Posted February 3, 2014 it has a lot to do with it being in alpha, it you would understand the concept. 3PP has nothing to do with the game being an alpha. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadAsh (DayZ) 1513 Posted February 3, 2014 But yeah, like they said, just join a hardcore server. While there aren't as many as there are regular servers, there are still enough of them for it be relatively easy to find a well populated one. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spartanxapathy 203 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) it has a lot to do with it being in alpha, it you would understand the concept.as for CoD, it might be a running joke... and yeah try a hardcore server, i hear there is no 3rd person on those. It has nothing to do with being in Alpha. All ArmA games have the option to play in 3rd person. The fact that people use it cheaply to see over walls, etc. has everything to do with the person playing, and nothing to do with the fact that this game is in alpha. While I understand that "Go back to CoD" is the typical response to people complaining on this forum, not sure how it works here... The OP is complaining about people cheaply using 3rd person to their advantage. Last time I played CoD, granted it has been since MW2, it was in first-person. Edited February 3, 2014 by SpartanxApathy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyline-gtr 130 Posted February 3, 2014 I thought you were talking about abuse of 3pp, which could be addressed with more work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigfrak 116 Posted February 3, 2014 just play a first person only server prob solved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isaaq 72 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) it has a lot to do with it being in alpha, it you would understand the concept.as for CoD, it might be a running joke... and yeah try a hardcore server, i hear there is no 3rd person on those. No. It has nothing to do with it being alpha. See, there is nothing stopping the Dev's instantly removing third person.There's no bugs in question.It's not a feature request. Crying 'alpher' every time anyone says anything is only counter productive. He's trying to discuss whether third person should be removed in the future or not overall. That's exactly what alphas are for, actually. Discussing the future for the game. The way people use third person for their advantage couldn't be fixed or 'addressed' in any way. It's just something that is possible with third person. Anyway, as many people have said, use a hardcore server. Issue fixed. Why play on a third person server if you don't want to use third person? Edited February 3, 2014 by Isaaq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepfried 95 Posted February 3, 2014 No. It has nothing to do with it being alpha. See, there is nothing stopping the Dev's instantly removing third person.There's no bugs in question.It's not a feature request. Crying 'alpher' every time anyone says anything is only counter productive. He's trying to discuss whether third person should be removed in the future or not overall. That's exactly what alphas are for, actually. Discussing the future for the game. The way people use third person for their advantage couldn't be fixed or 'addressed' in any way. It's just something that is possible with third person. Anyway, as many people have said, use a hardcore server. Issue fixed. Why play on a third person server if you don't want to use third person? To be fair they could fix the abuse of 3PP with mechanics, other games do, for example you can have the camera zoom in closer to your character when there is an object in front of your face thus preventing you from seeing over the wall or whatever.... not perfect but just an example of how the abuse could be addressed with more development. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyline-gtr 130 Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Actually he did mention abuse of 3rd person in the OP. This could be because its in alpha and these abuses were not apparent when coding.As for the thread title, 3rd person helps the game by allowing a person to see more then a 1st person view through a computer screen. It could be considered more immersive.However I think your worries could be solved further down the line when more feedback has been given to the devs, cos afterall its still alpha. Edited February 3, 2014 by Skyline-GTR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daemonkid 493 Posted February 3, 2014 Over the shoulder camera would be fine in my opinion, but it would still allow people to abuse the camera for an unfair advantage. I'm all for removing 3pp but it would impact a huge part of the player base. Not a lot of people like running through the woods in 1pp. But it SHOULD be like that, but it isn't because of the backlash it would cause. Should've never even have implemented 3pp into the SA, then people couldn't complain about an option that was never there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigfrak 116 Posted February 3, 2014 Think some of you are missing that there is first person only servers, just go play on one of them and leave 3pp a lone for the rest of us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StayAlive (DayZ) 169 Posted February 3, 2014 Play 3rd person or don't! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
infiltrator 275 Posted February 4, 2014 I tried HC servers as suggested and I like it a lot, I assumed hardcore had other things I did not enjoy like limited interface or less frequent loot spawns so I did not try it until now.The only problem is there aren't many HC servers to pick from but I guess that will change with time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
on3c3nt 185 Posted February 4, 2014 I hate it when players abuse 1PP to aim better or see loot that isn't really accessible in 3PP. I hope the devs will disable 1PP soon. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
infiltrator 275 Posted February 4, 2014 I hate it when players abuse 1PP to aim better or see loot that isn't really accessible in 3PP. I hope the devs will disable 1PP soon. Terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DropBearChick 1216 Posted February 4, 2014 Im playin a lot of hardcore seeing as ive got my best gear on there but never would of noticed the unreachable loot on top of the news stands in svet if it was hardcore server Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
infiltrator 275 Posted February 4, 2014 Im playin a lot of hardcore seeing as ive got my best gear on there but never would of noticed the unreachable loot on top of the news stands in svet if it was hardcore server Well that's mostly a problem with loot positioning and container height IMO. Even if I could never reach those objects, I'd gladly trade them for the ability to know that somone can't be watching me behind a corner or above a wall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
