Looking at Barbed Wire another way: Sniper prisons.

[Never 237]

Seen a fair bit of rage at the barbed wire the past few days, people getting annoyed at server hoppers wiring off spawn points/sniper locations.

I suggest if they like those places that much, lets make them stay there.

We can use this tactic ourselves.

What i propose, is this:

Lets use our own barbed wire, and block the fuckers IN these buildings, ON EVERY SERVER.

That way they can hop as much as they want, they'll always be a building they are blocked into. that way they have 3 options: A) stay in their sniper spot that everyone knows abut and avoids hoping that some ammo they can use spawns B) a restart or C) ending it off the roof.

Bit of imagination guys, we can police and imprison these player killers ourselves.

[punisher_1 3]

The problems with this would be:

They can still farm the spawn.

They have all day to shoot you when you try to approach

If you are lucky enough to find wire what they are going to do is log off, go to another server, log on, move 70 out of the building, log back in and shoot you in the back.

See the major issue is how the game works and what sort of players it attracts. No mechanics to keep people in check therefore people will do what they want to do.

I do however applaude your thought on trying to solve the issue.

[Zombie31 0]

Worst suggestion ever, FIRST they will just join another server and get out (u can't block them all)

Secondly, in theory your "plan" would work but u would also block off evry place in the game where u can get sume guns.

[Molten 0]

Never hurts to think of ways to overcome dickheads in game but it's just adding to the barbedwire spam.

Tank traps and barbedwire are a great addition and have so many uses. Trouble is the community is not mature enough for such an in game item imo. Should be removed or made to spawn a hell of a lot less often.

[Never 237]

Well if your going to try it on your own, well done, see your next spawn on the beach yeah?

Its more of an appeal to the imaginative and organised groups to USE THE SANDBOX themselves instead of begging for more content to be removed.

You'd need to hit several servers at once, with teams.

1 or 2 wire layers.

2 or 3 snipers suppressing the mark.

and another team or two in street watching the wirelayers backs.

Would be awesome.

but hey maybe its just easier to mindlessly kill each other in a mod were everythings been removed because the player base seems to views the tools they have the same way a monkey would look at a laptop. Is it something you can use or just another place to shit? Your choice monkey people.

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Worst suggestion ever' date=' FIRST they will just join another server and get out (u can't block them all)

Secondly, in theory your "plan" would work but u would also block off evry place in the game where u can get sume guns.

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Aww how cute, this Zombies got a tail!

Just fucking with you, again see my last post, if you think you could do this on your own your mental.

[Kageru 18]

Just remove it. It has no use other than exploits and griefing.

If there's going to be a survivor base it clearly needs to exist on all servers to avoid the "server hop teleport" which means it can't be constructed directly by players.

[Never 237]

Never hurts to think of ways to overcome dickheads in game but it's just adding to the barbedwire spam.

Tank traps and barbedwire are a great addition and have so many uses. Trouble is the community is not mature enough for such an in game item imo. Should be removed or made to spawn a hell of a lot less often.

An evolved member of the community right here.

Agreed that is the fundamental problem, for almost everything most people see as a fault with the mod in fact.

[Zombie31 0]

IN theory evrything is possible so not mental c:

[Never 237]

Just remove it. It has no use other than exploits and griefing.

If there's going to be a survivor base it clearly needs to exist on all servers to avoid the "server hop teleport" which means it can't be constructed directly by players.

Well thats my point' date=' it does have other uses, just people aren't thinking of them.

And you are 100% right that server hopping etc is the number one hot issue thats holding the potential back.

It stops development on tools to build by making the whole exercise futile.

Infinite resources makes the whole 'survival aspect' null and void.

It turns any life threatening encounter null and void.

The whole single character over multiple servers idea is attractive, but is also a massive deadend.

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IN theory evrything is possible so not mental c:

Touche. Fair shout, i'll give you that. :blush:

How awesome a youtube vid would that be though? One man locking down every camper in DayZ?

[Kageru 18]

It's sort of forced by the fact that the servers are privately owned and can't be expected to carry too much load. A fully persistent MMO would neead a lot more back end.

I think you can still do a lot with the approach. But base building will have to be a lot more abstract, such as reinforcing a set location and that location growing into a base on all servers when enough resources are donated.

Either way the current approach does nothing useful and aids exploits.

[Rogo Ignoscant 8]

Are you aware that you can vault over the barbed wire?

The only thing it really does is make you stand up briefly.

[Never 237]

I think you can still do a lot with the approach. But base building will have to be a lot more abstract' date=' such as reinforcing a set location and that location growing into a base on all servers when enough resources are donated.

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See i think base building, well the option to, is vital to progressing the mod. But i can picture the model your thinking of, and i really think it would be wrong for DayZ.

I'll expand my thoughts but pressed for time right now. Sorry.

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Are you aware that you can vault over the barbed wire?

The only thing it really does is make you stand up briefly.

Community seems to have mixed experiences. Personally whenever i've tried too i've ended up broken and bleeding. :-/

[Kageru 18]

I have my suggestion in more detail here so you can correct me there :)

Though I didn't realise it would also help with server-hop teleporting at the time... it didn't occur to me people would do that.

[NigeyS 16]

i keep pcoming across this barbed wire, is there no way to remove it, via a tool that spawns or anything ?

[Molten 0]

is there no way to remove it' date=' via a tool that spawns or anything ?

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Wire cutters which are part of the "toolbox" item I believe.

Found link: http://dayzwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Toolbox According to that you should need a toolbox to set up wire fences and tank traps as well. That would stop a lot of the spam it did work that way.

[dunnobe 3]

I'm pretty sure that "server hoppers block locations with barbed wire" thingy is bullocks.

When you respawn, no items appear at that exact location. You need to go away and come back later for items to spawn on the place where you respawned.

These items are only used to block entrances of buildings in order so people cannot get teh better equipment, atleast that is what I do.

[funionz 7]

I'm pretty sure that "server hoppers block locations with barbed wire" thingy is bullocks.

When you respawn' date=' no items appear at that exact location. You need to go away and come back later for items to spawn on the place where you respawned.

These items are only used to block entrances of buildings in order so people cannot get teh better equipment, atleast that is what I do.

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As a bandit sniper, I not only carry wire to place to block off people from my own location, but I also carry the tools to remove it